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I think a whole lot of people mistake 'submit' with 'be abused'. They don't see the way a Godly relationship works, but see abusive spouses getting away with it because of that scripture.
This is a complete mis-read of Scripture. It's about the relationship between regenerated husband and wives under God.
They also tend to ignore the rest of Scripture on the same subject showing men being admonished to 'love their wives as Christ loved the church'
So what the wife is submitting to is Godly leadership, not abuse.
This is a complete mis-read of Scripture. It's about the relationship between regenerated husband and wives under God.
They also tend to ignore the rest of Scripture on the same subject showing men being admonished to 'love their wives as Christ loved the church'
So what the wife is submitting to is Godly leadership, not abuse.
It's polarizing because people want to take the word submission and twist it for their own pleasure, and they want to ignore the verses that come before and after it. It's not about me telling you to make me a sandwich. Instead, it's man and woman serving. Too many people don't get that.
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Submission of wives to their husbands, children to their parents, etc. is often misunderstood by those who have not tasted the grace of God. You didn't say if your friend was a Christian, though it doesn't sound like it. The ways of the Gospel are right-side-up in an upside-down world, so they are going to look/sound odd and even offensive.
Sadly, even many Christians have misunderstood what godly submission is, and have preached something which God did not intend. If one starts with the goodness and love of God shown to us in Christ Jesus, and works through God's designs for creation, salvation, relationships, and marriage, submission sounds a lot better. Without the context, it can sound like subservience or subjugation, which it isn't. Also, it is often taken out of context. "Submit to one another, out of reverence for Christ" is not "wife submit to husband regardless of his behaviour". It is balanced; both husband and wife submit to the Lord first.
Christians don't all agree on the interpretation and application of marital submission; some believe that it should be mutual, some believe that it should be wife-to-husband primarily (that's a simplification!). I would encourage you to do your own study on this subject. Know what you believe, and hold firmly to it. No need to apologize to your friend, but perhaps it is an opportunity to share the basic truths of the Gospel. To give her/him the broader context, you know.
Sadly, even many Christians have misunderstood what godly submission is, and have preached something which God did not intend. If one starts with the goodness and love of God shown to us in Christ Jesus, and works through God's designs for creation, salvation, relationships, and marriage, submission sounds a lot better. Without the context, it can sound like subservience or subjugation, which it isn't. Also, it is often taken out of context. "Submit to one another, out of reverence for Christ" is not "wife submit to husband regardless of his behaviour". It is balanced; both husband and wife submit to the Lord first.
Christians don't all agree on the interpretation and application of marital submission; some believe that it should be mutual, some believe that it should be wife-to-husband primarily (that's a simplification!). I would encourage you to do your own study on this subject. Know what you believe, and hold firmly to it. No need to apologize to your friend, but perhaps it is an opportunity to share the basic truths of the Gospel. To give her/him the broader context, you know.
Not exactly. You have lots and lots of posts about submission, yet you are not married. It's actually NOT an issue for you right now in your life.
So, why not post about all the other things you're studying regarding being a woman of God?
I'm an unmarried woman and I rarely think about "submission to a husband" because I have no husband. However, there are a TON of spiritual issues that I'm constantly considering.
So, why not post about all the other things you're studying regarding being a woman of God?
I'm an unmarried woman and I rarely think about "submission to a husband" because I have no husband. However, there are a TON of spiritual issues that I'm constantly considering.
That's because a lot of Christians seem to forget the verse before - where Paul tells us we are to be mutually submitted to one another.
"submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ." Eph. 5:21
In fact, the word "submit" or hypotassomenoi ὑποτασσόμενοι does not actually appear in Eph. 5:22 in the Greek.
"Αἱ γυναῖκες τοῖς ἰδίοις [ἀνδράσιν ὡς τῷ κυρίῳ," Eph. 5:22
But if it works for your marriage, and you have a godly husband, then I think you should keep on doing it. There are some rabid feminists out there, and each person and marriage is unique. Their "one size fits all" way of being married doesn't necessarily fit most of the people, most of the time.
Woops! Just saw you are not married! Why bother even posting on this topic?
"submitting to one another out of reverence for Christ." Eph. 5:21
In fact, the word "submit" or hypotassomenoi ὑποτασσόμενοι does not actually appear in Eph. 5:22 in the Greek.
"Αἱ γυναῖκες τοῖς ἰδίοις [ἀνδράσιν ὡς τῷ κυρίῳ," Eph. 5:22
But if it works for your marriage, and you have a godly husband, then I think you should keep on doing it. There are some rabid feminists out there, and each person and marriage is unique. Their "one size fits all" way of being married doesn't necessarily fit most of the people, most of the time.
Woops! Just saw you are not married! Why bother even posting on this topic?
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