Book of Genesis from a Christ-centered view

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Allen5566

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Hi all,

I am currently reading the Book of Genesis and I'm trying to understand it from a Christ-centered view. My broad question for discussion is: How does the Book of Genesis help our knowledge and understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Genesis 1 and John 1 have some obvious parallels, for starters, but I want to read what the rest of my brothers and sisters in Christ have to say about this topic. :)

Thank you.
 
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I would say you touch upon it well in your OP all ready. John 1 is really the basis for understanding Genesis (and indeed the rest of the OT). Jesus is the living Word of God, through him everything was made. We look in Genesis and we see this is how God created the creation, by speaking, so literally everything is made at his Word. Even in other parts of Genesis and the OT, we see God's interaction with the man and the rest of creation is through his Word.

This helps our understanding of Jesus because it shows indeed he was with God from the very beginning as John 1:1 says and it shows his divine nature as both mighty and loving. Basically the Gospels confirm the OT and the OT confirms the Gospels about Jesus.
 
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I would say you touch upon it well in your OP all ready. John 1 is really the basis for understanding Genesis (and indeed the rest of the OT). Jesus is the living Word of God, through him everything was made. We look in Genesis and we see this is how God created the creation, by speaking, so literally everything is made at his Word. Even in other parts of Genesis and the OT, we see God's interaction with the man and the rest of creation is through his Word.

This helps our understanding of Jesus because it shows indeed he was with God from the very beginning as John 1:1 says and it shows his divine nature as both mighty and loving. Basically the Gospels confirm the OT and the OT confirms the Gospels about Jesus.

Good points...

In Gen 1, we read how God through his act of Reality, unfolding frame after frame, creates the Universe.
Then, in John 1, we read that, for man, Christ is the Truth by which man can decipher what Reality actually, and through the image of Truth understand Reality and how it works.

This of curse explains the Trinity.
Reality and Truth are images of one another for men.
 

MarcR

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Hi all,

I am currently reading the Book of Genesis and I'm trying to understand it from a Christ-centered view. My broad question for discussion is: How does the Book of Genesis help our knowledge and understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Genesis 1 and John 1 have some obvious parallels, for starters, but I want to read what the rest of my brothers and sisters in Christ have to say about this topic. :)

Thank you.
In Gen 3:15 we see evidence that God knew that Adam and Eve would sin before they were created; and had a plan of redemption in place.

Throughout the book of Genesis, we see the development of a 'people of promise' (Israel), through whom the Redeemer would come.
 
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In Gen 3:15 we see evidence that God knew that Adam and Eve would sin before they were created; and had a plan of redemption in place.

Throughout the book of Genesis, we see the development of a 'people of promise' (Israel), through whom the Redeemer would come.
Gen 3 seems clearly to be about the inner mind of man developing into the seven Freudian sources of those voices people hear, the ones which lead men away from others and seek selfishness as an ends.

The egotists is so clearly one of these we all can see that.
And Satan is certainly inside us as the Libido getting out of hand.

As far back as the 12th century, rabbi were talking about things like this, well before Freud appear and gave seven names to these entities.
 

mcubed

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This is a great topic. First of all the Paul tells us that Messiah created all things; that He existed before creation. Right there you must make a decision is Genius the origin of life or is evolution!?! This is a great question… If you read Genius and do not believe the creation story do you believe the rest of the Bible could be true… I man if Genius is not true how much credibility does a man dying for the sins of the world if we believe “if” He is Messiah have? Think about it… if sin had never come into the world number one, no need for a savior (the Gen. 3:15 is not about Y-shua Messiah) no worldwide flood (just local in the Mediterranean Sea area) no need for a Messiah this is just all made up the need for one G-d tolerates man doing what is right in his own eyes. Nor if one book has made up stories how can you believe the other 65!?! Let’s see what else… oh yeah, Juda and Tamar their son Perez was that just a coincidence that Perez is in the line of Y-shua. The twelve tribes… Y-shua is the lion of the tribe of Juda… Ephraim and Messiah.. G-d over and over calls them His sons… therefore, it is not a far stretch G-d would call the Messiah the Son of G-d. Salvation… Father Abraham believed, even though G-d reviled the promise in progression Abraham believed G-d. Therefore by faith we are saved because of our forefather. The slave girl G-d did not leave here out either… To this day G-d has kept His promise to Hagar and Abraham about Ishmael and his decedents. Who happen to be our cousins, which brings me back to Y-shua today hundreds/ thousands of them are being saved. Yet it is still only by the promise G-d made between Himself, when He walked thru the blood sacrifice by Himself that He would keep His promise because Abraham believed. Then G-d came to earth as a man the “Son” of G-d and who so ever call upon the name of the Lord… and believe in his heart shall be saved. Genius is sooo great and wonderful in fact it’s your birth as a human, then a Christian. It’s your birthright; it is good to study and be a Yakov (Jacob) instead of an Esau. There is nothing but a scarlet thread that runs thru Torah starting with Genius, the thread of Y-shua’s blood!!!
 
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Tintin

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Right, Genesis is Genius! Christ is spread through-out the Book of Genesis. From Jesus speaking Creation into existence (space, time and matter), to Him appearing to Abraham and blessing Abraham and Sarah, and Joseph being a Christ-type, going from zero to hero - it's all there.
 

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These are foundational promises given to Abraham concerning the Jewish Messiah, His seed, the Land, God's blessings to the nations thru the Seed etc.



Genesis 12:2-3 KJV
[2] And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: [3] And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.



Genesis 12:7


“Then the LORD appeared to Abram and said, ‘To your descendants I will give this land.’ And there he built an altar to the LORD, who had appeared to him.”
Genesis 13:2, 14-17

“Abram was very rich in livestock, in silver, and in gold. …
“And the LORD said to Abram, after Lot had separated from him: ‘Lift your eyes now and look from the place where you are—northward, southward, eastward, and westward; for all the land which you see I give to you and your descendants forever. And I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth; so that if a man could number the dust of the earth, then your descendants also could be numbered. Arise, walk in the land through its length and its width, for I give it to you.’”

Genesis 15:4-6, 18

“And behold, the word of the LORD came to him, saying, ‘This one shall not be your heir, but one who will come from your own body shall be your heir.’ Then He brought him outside and said, ‘Look now toward heaven, and count the stars if you are able to number them.’ And He said to him, ‘So shall your descendants be.’ And he believed in the LORD, and He accounted it to him for righteousness. … On the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying: ‘To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates.’”


Genesis 17:1-8, 15-16

“When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, ‘I am Almighty God; walk before Me and be blameless. And I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you exceedingly.’ Then Abram fell on his face, and God talked with him, saying: ‘As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations. No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations.
“I will make you exceedingly fruitful; and I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you. And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you.
“Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.’ …
“Then God said to Abraham, ‘As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name. And I will bless her and also give you a son by her; then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her.’”


Genesis 18:17-18

“And the LORD said, ‘Shall I hide from Abraham what I am doing, since Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?’”


Genesis 21:1-3

“And the LORD visited Sarah as He had said, and the LORD did for Sarah as He had spoken. For Sarah conceived and bore Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. And Abraham called the name of his son who was born to him—whom Sarah bore to him—Isaac.”


Genesis 22:16-18

“By Myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son—blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”











 
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Galahad

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... Genesis 22:16-18

“By Myself I have sworn, says the LORD, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son—blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice.”
And then compare that with Hebrews 11:17-19.
"By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure."
 
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FreeNChrist

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I think the key thing that ties Genesis to the gospel is Gen 26:5,

“…Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.”

That is the common description of the Mosaic Law, the commands given by God in the Sinai covenant (Deut 11:1). How can it possibly be said that Abraham kept what hadn't yet been given?
 

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I think the key thing that ties Genesis to the gospel is Gen 26:5,

“…Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.”

That is the common description of the Mosaic Law, the commands given by God in the Sinai covenant (Deut 11:1). How can it possibly be said that Abraham kept what hadn't yet been given?
right, it couldn't be referring to the Mosaic law but his walk of faith in the promises...

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
 
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FreeNChrist

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right, it couldn't be referring to the Mosaic law but his walk of faith in the promises...

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
I think it is referring to the Mosaic law and God is showing us what it actually means to "keep the Law". He's telling us that if we want to be counted righteous by God, if we want to fulfill the requirements of His Law, we should be like Abraham. And Abraham, "Believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness" (Gen 15:6). He lived a life of faith. He trusted God.

It was not by living under the Law and keeping its commands, that Abraham was declared righteous. It was because of his faith. "The righteous man will live by faith". That is always what God has been looking for in man. By living a life of faith we are keeping God’s Law.
 

Allen5566

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Wow, great responses everyone! I really appreciate them,Thank you!
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Tintin

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I think it is referring to the Mosaic law and God is showing us what it actually means to "keep the Law". He's telling us that if we want to be counted righteous by God, if we want to fulfill the requirements of His Law, we should be like Abraham. And Abraham, "Believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness" (Gen 15:6). He lived a life of faith. He trusted God.

It was not by living under the Law and keeping its commands, that Abraham was declared righteous. It was because of his faith. "The righteous man will live by faith". That is always what God has been looking for in man. By living a life of faith we are keeping God’s Law.
So you're saying the Mosaic Law existed before Moses did? That's just not... yeah. God's Law was revealed in a more complete capacity by the time of Moses, but prior to that He had already revealed bits and pieces eg. clean and unclean animals for sacrifices, and people either walked them out in obedience or rejected them in disobedience.
 
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This is a great topic. First of all the Paul tells us that Messiah created all things; that He existed before creation. Right there you must make a decision is Genius the origin of life or is evolution!?! This is a great question… If you read Genius and do not believe the creation story do you believe the rest of the Bible could be true… I man if Genius is not true how much credibility does a man dying for the sins of the world if we believe “if” He is Messiah have? Think about it… if sin had never come into the world number one, no need for a savior (the Gen. 3:15 is not about Y-shua Messiah) no worldwide flood (just local in the Mediterranean Sea area) no need for a Messiah this is just all made up the need for one G-d tolerates man doing what is right in his own eyes. Nor if one book has made up stories how can you believe the other 65!?! Let’s see what else… oh yeah, Juda and Tamar their son Perez was that just a coincidence that Perez is in the line of Y-shua. The twelve tribes… Y-shua is the lion of the tribe of Juda… Ephraim and Messiah.. G-d over and over calls them His sons… therefore, it is not a far stretch G-d would call the Messiah the Son of G-d. Salvation… Father Abraham believed, even though G-d reviled the promise in progression Abraham believed G-d. Therefore by faith we are saved because of our forefather. The slave girl G-d did not leave here out either… To this day G-d has kept His promise to Hagar and Abraham about Ishmael and his decedents. Who happen to be our cousins, which brings me back to Y-shua today hundreds/ thousands of them are being saved. Yet it is still only by the promise G-d made between Himself, when He walked thru the blood sacrifice by Himself that He would keep His promise because Abraham believed. Then G-d came to earth as a man the “Son” of G-d and who so ever call upon the name of the Lord… and believe in his heart shall be saved. Genius is sooo great and wonderful in fact it’s your birth as a human, then a Christian. It’s your birthright; it is good to study and be a Yakov (Jacob) instead of an Esau. There is nothing but a scarlet thread that runs thru Torah starting with Genius, the thread of Y-shua’s blood!!!

The idea that Christ creates the everything fits pretty well with Jesus saying, "I am the Truth,... and the way and the life"...
Truth is what tells us what actually does exist.
In our head, we collect sensory info.

We use truth to figure out what the real world is.
Truth allows us to create the world that is really there.
 
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Sorry to say this but god never allowed Adam and eve to be sin from the very start that's why he give them a warning and everyone here knew that.

It was their ( Adam and eve ) freewill that made them sin and
God never knew that Adam and Eve would sin before they were created;
:read: this part of the verse please
:brb: just a couple of minutes please thanks

 
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14 כי 3588 קרוב 7138 אליך 0413 הדבר 1696 מאד 3966 בפיך 6310 ובלבבך 3824 . לעשתו 6213
The verse above came from SPDS
as we can see there is also difference between written words.

And about to this comment
" It was their ( Adam and eve ) freewill that made them sin and
God never knew that Adam and Eve would sin before they were created; "
Here is the verse
Jeremiah: 19. 5. They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:
:smoke: Please try to examine who is the one who is speaking in this verse :whistle:
 
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14 כִּֽי 3588 ־קָר֥וֹב 7138 אֵלֶ֛יךָ 413 הַדָּבָ֖ר מְאֹ֑ד 3966 בְּפִ֥יךָ וּבִֽלְבָבְךָ֖ לַעֲשֹׂתֽוֹ׃ ס
OHSB SP VERSION

14 כי 3588 קרוב 7138 אליך 0413 הדבר 1696 מאד 3966 בפיך 6310 ובלבבך 3824 . לעשתו 6213
SP SPDS VERSION

14 . . . . . . . ובידך 3027 לעשותו 6213
SPDSS SPE

14 כי 3588 קרוב 7138 אליך 0413 הדבר 1696 מאד 3966 בפיך 6310 ובלבבך 3824 . לעשתו 6213
SPMT SPVa

And many more . ...
:happy: So please don't give any interpretation from any version that was written in the
Holy scripture but let the holy scripture interpret itself by searching the proper and the right understanding from the word of god
According to all that is written :smoke: