Spiritual Fornication - A Warning!

[eternally-gratefull]

You're right about convicting and proving by the law that the works of the same by our own efforts are vain. ( I think that's what you are referring to) There is something in the Torah however, that prophecy says will be celebrated annually during the reign of Christ after He comes as a Lion, and when the government will be upon His shoulders in His kingdom. From what I read, it has nothing to do with persuading "people that we are unable to please God by our own efforts." IMO

Nevertheless, I believe you are right about the "Iron Rod" that will be exacted during that time. "Bam!" Stop your own acts of self-righteousness and follow My instructions.

lol..(sorry this made me laugh, I know it is sad, but yeah....

God does not have to say BAM! to those who have been trained by his love, nor does he need to give them instruictions, they by NATURE know what he wants, and by HS power does those things.

When will you people ever give up? The rulers of this world. who give instructions and rule with this rod of iron today cant keep the jails empty. Laws never did make people act right.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

There is so much more! That is part of it but anyone who sees only that in it is missing so much - very sad.

This is true.

What is sad, are those who look so much at law. they miss the finer things in life God wants to give us, They are stuck on dos and don'ts and not on the love of God and others.

Sorry, but when your focused on do's and don'ts you can not be focused on Grace, you are stuck on performance, not fogginess, mercy and love,

I know ya all hate me, and thats fine, I am not here to find love, But I do pray and hope one day you see what your missing. I can not share it with you, I can only try to show you how it changed my, and so many others lives for the better. And not just me, I see there are many others here who have been changed by that too which want to share that with you.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

So, since that is the case, if as you say, [/COLOR][/I]“if you can't even get the most basic thngs right, how can your teachings be right” why should anyone in a CHRISTIAN forum even consider what you say as solid Bible teaching. Your above post from a week or two ago after 20 months of not posting certainly disqualifies you from talking down anybody’s posts.

Oh THIS is funny. You accuse others of stalking you, and here you go to the trouble of digging up my past to try to find some dirt on me. Project much?

In case you were wondering where I was for the past 20 months, my mother died...

 

[just-us-2]

Oh THIS is funny. You accuse others of stalking you, and here you go to the trouble of digging up my past to try to find some dirt on me. Project much?

In case you were wondering where I was for the past 20 months, my mother died...

I wasn't wondering. It was just a surprise to see someone who showed up as 'deceased' suddenly show up again a year and a half later. But the point was that since you don't believe the Bible I don't consider you qualified to say anything about it. Watch sometime concerning the stalkers - I went to Ben's thread about the ignore button knowing what I would find there, which I should not have done, but I don't go to other people's threads and look for something to argue with.

 

[Magenta]

But the point was that since you don't believe the Bible I don't consider you qualified to say anything about it.

That was definitely inappropriate and uncalled for

 

[pieman]

We all know that when a person is converted to Christianity he/she doesn’t instantly become perfect, but there will be something noticeable to others soon after, because if the ‘amazing grace’ didn’t change him/her, it wasn’t the truly amazing grace of God. God’s grace is a changing grace – it changes us!

As disciples of Jesus Christ we must eventually face those ‘gray areas’ and take a stand. Nowadays we often hear statements like, “He’s a Christian, but he’s really messed up,” or “she has a good heart but she lives with her boyfriend,” or “he/she believes in God but is gay.” It has gotten so bad that it isn’t even mentioned many times. It is just accepted. Those are gray areas not dealt with and made right, and they cause what is called “Christianity” to be no more than a mere shadow or ghost of what it was in those early days and what it is supposed to be still.

Looking back at the disciples who walked around the countryside with Jesus we see men who were accustomed to the law given by God to mankind. Eventually, He instructed Moses to write it all down and we can read today how when Yahweh crafted His law for the good of the people, He interwove into it elements that would remind them all day long how much He loved them, because He gave instruction for everything a person did in a day, a growing season for crops, and a year. As a person disposed of some sort of waste, for instance, he would be reminded how God loved them and gave them instruction for their good health. It is flagrantly untrue that the law is a bunch of don’ts and regulations and outdated rules. So they were well acquainted with the reality of God and were bold enough to stand up to the persecution they knew they would encounter. Today, ‘persecution’ is considered to be a sideways look or an eyebrow raised in question at stating an unpopular truth of God. Rather than be thought of as ‘weird’ or ’fanatical’ it is just easier to go with the flow.

Today, I could go online and order an ordination certificate saying I am an ordained minister and go about finding a church to hire me as pastor – it happens often. If it didn’t, there would be no market for the phony ordination certificates. Sadly, even those who are “ordained” by more conventional means teach much less than the whole truth of God’s Word, and this leads to teaching which is compromised with the world’s standards. That compromise is spiritual fornication. The pure bride is tainted by false teaching.

If you want to stop spiritual fornication you need to shock people with desire.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I wasn't wondering. It was just a surprise to see someone who showed up as 'deceased' suddenly show up again a year and a half later. But the point was that since you don't believe the Bible I don't consider you qualified to say anything about it. Watch sometime concerning the stalkers - I went to Ben's thread about the ignore button knowing what I would find there, which I should not have done, but I don't go to other people's threads and look for something to argue with.

You seriously have a problem with reading comprehension. Or maybe just reading, period. Or maybe you just have a confused mind because my profile never said 'deceased'.

 

[pieman]

You seriously have a problem with reading comprehension. Or maybe just reading, period. Or maybe you just have a confused mind because my profile never said 'deceased'.

That felt good.

 

[just-us-2]

That was definitely inappropriate and uncalled for

It is if he claims to be a Christian as his public profile says.

 

[just-us-2]

If you want to stop spiritual fornication you need to shock people with desire.

I would not necessarily disagree with that. But look at what goes on in here -- who in their right mind would want to be part of a group like this that says they are "Christians"

 

[LieDetector]

Oh my sweet merciful heavens. - This thread has turned into nothing more than bickering, fighting & personal jabs as I see happening all over this forum.
Please stop... Common saints... We can do better.
This ongoing argument about LAW is foolish. We are called to exercise self control and we must walk in obedience to God. Grace cannot be used to excuse sin. We have to put some effort into this walk. - That doesn't mean there is no grace.
Stop fighting about semantics. Stop biting & devouring one another, bickering & fighting.. please.. read the Word.. practice self control. I know it's hard. I've been there too. I understand and don't think myself superior. I say these things in all humility. Please hear what the Spirit is saying folks..........

Galatians 5 (NASB)
7 You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion did not come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough. 10 I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11 But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12 I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.
16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. 17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are:immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh my sweet merciful heavens. - This thread has turned into nothing more than bickering, fighting & personal jabs as I see happening all over this forum.
Please stop... Common saints... We can do better.
This ongoing argument about LAW is foolish. We are called to exercise self control and we must walk in obedience to God. Grace cannot be used to excuse sin. We have to put some effort into this walk. - That doesn't mean there is no grace.
Stop fighting about semantics. Stop biting & devouring one another, bickering & fighting.. please.. read the Word.. practice self control. I know it's hard. I've been there too. I understand and don't think myself superior. I say these things in all humility. Please hear what the Spirit is saying folks..........

Galatians 5 (NASB)
7 You were running well; who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8 This persuasion did not come from Him who calls you. 9 A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough. 10 I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view; but the one who is disturbing you will bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11 But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12 I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves.
13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.
16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. 17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are:immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. 24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. 26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

Paul spent half of his writtings speaking about law.

Like I said, This thread started out good, a great testimony, But as with most of their threads. they brought the law into it. It is their fault all their threads get turned upside down, if they di dnot have alterior motives with every thread they opened, it would not be that way. But after years of the same stuff. .... Yeah it gets old.

anyway to continue

Seems as if paul thought it was so serious a discussion he spent most of his writings on it, We should too.

Law taken in a way which is anything other than what it was intended (according to paul a schoolmaster to lead us to christ) is dangerous, It needs dealt with.

Paul thought so. who are we to go against what Paul said.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is if he claims to be a Christian as his public profile says.

that goes both ways, You need to look in a mirror

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

This ongoing argument about LAW is foolish.

No my dear, only the foolish ignore the seductive perniciousness of grace-destroying doctrine.

 

[LieDetector]

Paul did not insult, bite & consume his brethren.
All these arguments prove nothing and your logic is wharped carnal thinking. - You cannot understand the word with the carnal mind. It takes REVELATION from God and the light of the Holy Spirit to understand scripture.

Those who continue to fight with and insult people are void of the Holy Spirit, walking in the flesh & carnal mind, without understanding.

I am now unsubscribing from this and every other thread where people continue to spew anger and hatred and push their own agenda. It is a mockery of what Yeshua did for us on the cross.

I pray God brings maturity to His people soon.. It is coming.
Prepare.

 

[just-us-2]

Paul spent half of his writtings speaking about law.

Like I said, This thread started out good, a great testimony, But as with most of their threads. they brought the law into it. It is their fault all their threads get turned upside down, if they di dnot have alterior motives with every thread they opened, it would not be that way. But after years of the same stuff. .... Yeah it gets old.

anyway to continue

Seems as if paul thought it was so serious a discussion he spent most of his writings on it, We should too.

Law taken in a way which is anything other than what it was intended (according to paul a schoolmaster to lead us to christ) is dangerous, It needs dealt with.

Paul thought so. who are we to go against what Paul said.

Go back and read post#8 and see who first introduced contentious comments.

 

[just-me]

Paul did not insult, bite & consume his brethren.
All these arguments prove nothing and your logic is wharped carnal thinking. - You cannot understand the word with the carnal mind. It takes REVELATION from God and the light of the Holy Spirit to understand scripture.

Those who continue to fight with and insult people are void of the Holy Spirit, walking in the flesh & carnal mind, without understanding.

I am now unsubscribing from this and every other thread where people continue to spew anger and hatred and push their own agenda. It is a mockery of what Yeshua did for us on the cross.

I pray God brings maturity to His people soon.. It is coming.
Prepare.

Sad, but true LieDetector, there needs be a defensive barrier built because of rejections of certain parts of God's Holy word, caused by purposeful omission "This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be."
Matthew 15:8 and Romans 8:6-7

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Paul did not insult, bite & consume his brethren.
All these arguments prove nothing and your logic is wharped carnal thinking. - You cannot understand the word with the carnal mind. It takes REVELATION from God and the light of the Holy Spirit to understand scripture.

Those who continue to fight with and insult people are void of the Holy Spirit, walking in the flesh & carnal mind, without understanding.

I am now unsubscribing from this and every other thread where people continue to spew anger and hatred and push their own agenda. It is a mockery of what Yeshua did for us on the cross.

I pray God brings maturity to His people soon.. It is coming.
Prepare.

Who is Jesus?
What did he do at the cross?
What is the holy spirit?
What color was Jesus?
Oh, it doesn't matter?
What does matter?

All of the above questions are answered by doctrine. Doctrine simply means instruction, teaching.

So if we don't have the right doctrine, we don't have Jesus. Our confession is our doctrine. And our confession is our salvation.

Now to return to our regularly scheduled programming (i.e., the OP), entertaining wrong doctrine is spiritual fornication.

 

[just-me]

[SUP]"[/SUP]Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the Lord thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee. Deuteronomy 7:12-13

In reference to the op.http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...ic-pharisees-didnt-recognize.html#post2302221

Please do your best not to derail or cause conflict. I present this strictly for edification sake.Let us converse in a respectful and peaceful manner as our Almighty God, through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ would have us to do.

First, God is good for His word. He will never back up on His promises. The hypocrites didn't keep His judgments on purpose. God has a condition for keeping covenant with us, and that is if we hearken (intellectually hear) His Judgments. If we desire to hear Him, He will bless us.

If not, Jesus will remind us, as He did the Pharisees, that the judgments of God are being neglected, and we must needs repent for this omission.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Go back and read post#8 and see who first introduced contentious comments.

Actually it started in verse 6. When yet nce again, law is introduced and destroyed a perfectly good thread.

But I know. You do not think you are wrong, so you do not see any problem with that.

Post # 7 was just a response to post 6, And post 8 was a response to post 7, It was no more contentious than post 6. But again, You can;t see that you ever do wrong. so .......