Remarriage Bibically

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iwant2serve

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I have made a post like this before and have been considered none biblical for this stance. These scriptures I use to support my view. Please supply scriptures with your post rather you agree or disagree.
Now in my understanding these scriptures say if no fornication (sexual immorality which includes adultery) has been committed and there is a remarriage it is adultery. Is this a lawful marriage because you ask God for forgiveness? Can something God called unlawful become acceptable because you are forgiven?

Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
1Cor 7:10-11 - And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:[SUP]11[/SUP] But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.
1 Corinthians 7:15 - But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace.

Matthew 5:32 - But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Romans 7:2 - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
Mark 10:10-11- And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
 
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I'm there with you, man, and I don't believe that a good man who is a Pastor is disallowed as pastor if he is divorced and remarried. Too late and I'm too tired to run references. :)
 
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BarlyGurl

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I notice you do not include the "patriarchal order" of God's design in your OP, the prescriptions are NOT the same for male and female. I also notice that you appear to be using a "blanket" analysis regarding the issue and therefore I would insert... that becoming a new creature in Christ and born again... ALL sins are forgiven... and this issue is also given attention in the scripture, I would surely counsel a person who is uncertain to study carefully and wait upon the Lord for HS conviction if there was any question.

Otherwise, I say yes, that is what the scripture teaches... people claiming to be Christians have been usurping God's authority regarding marriage increasingly... walking into apostasy.
 
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I notice you do not include the "patriarchal order" of God's design in your OP, the prescriptions are NOT the same for male and female. I also notice that you appear to be using a "blanket" analysis regarding the issue and therefore I would insert... that becoming a new creature in Christ and born again... ALL sins are forgiven... and this issue is also given attention in the scripture, I would surely counsel a person who is uncertain to study carefully and wait upon the Lord for HS conviction if there was any question.

Otherwise, I say yes, that is what the scripture teaches... people claiming to be Christians have been usurping God's authority regarding marriage increasingly... walking into apostasy.
Could you explain patriarchal order, please elaborate. :)
 
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Divorce is not recommended unless for adultery. Remarriage is adultery, except if the spouse be dead, as say the scriptures posted in the OP.

The verse about not under bondage to a spouse and the freedom to leave is good to ponder indeed. Consider; what good is the freedom to leave if only to be bound again? What freedom hath a bird flying from one cage to another cage?
 
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BarlyGurl

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Could you explain patriarchal order, please elaborate. :)
...Err... because YOU have NO IDEA what I am talking about???? :rolleyes:
Simple... the order is GOD-> Man-> woman-> children
women were created FOR man to be helpmeet... NOT visa versa.

Also... divorce can be unilateral and joint.
 
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Dino246

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Simple... the order is GOD-> Man-> woman-> children
women were created FOR man to be helpmeet... NOT visa versa.
May I encourage you to do a word study on the term "helpmeet". To whom did it first apply, and how does that inform your viewpoint? :)
 
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BarlyGurl

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May I encourage you to do a word study on the term "helpmeet". To whom did it first apply, and how does that inform your viewpoint? :)
Sure you can encourage... I would encourage you to post YOURS here and share your informed viewpoint. :)
 
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Kefa54

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...Err... because YOU have NO IDEA what I am talking about???? :rolleyes:
Simple... the order is GOD-> Man-> woman-> children
women were created FOR man to be helpmeet... NOT visa versa.

Also... divorce can be unilateral and joint.
Is there a biblical reference to.."Err... because YOU have NO IDEA what I am talking about???? :rolleyes:"
 
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BarlyGurl

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Now in my understanding these scriptures say if no fornication (sexual immorality which includes adultery) has been committed and there is a remarriage it is adultery. Before or after being born again?
Is this a lawful marriage because you ask God for forgiveness? Before or after being born again?
Can something God called unlawful become acceptable because you are forgiven? NO, which brings into the conversation the need to define "unlawful" regarding whether a "marriage" is legitimate or merely an adulterous union masquerading as a marriage.
 
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The best solution is the nest not to be broken to begin with by divorce of the love birds, but mended. For some this is possible, let no man put apart what God has brought together. As it be though some have no choice the other way either, like Michal, David's wife. David did not stone her to death though for her remarriage, which is adultery, albeit forced upon her by Saul. Nor did David kill Phaltiel.

There's also the woman at the well. Jesus never said for divorce her husband or stone her. He just said go sin no more, and she even went back and told her town and they were nice to Jesus and liked him.

Hard problems of those sorts of relationships though. Who can want more problems for those they are trying to help? Don't want any more harm to come to either of the people seems to me the idea. Is not easy as it sounds though. Them relationship type problems are massive especially in our land. Still though, all is not lost yet, but hope towards Jesus.
 

MarcR

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I have made a post like this before and have been considered none biblical for this stance. These scriptures I use to support my view. Please supply scriptures with your post rather you agree or disagree.
Now in my understanding these scriptures say if no fornication (sexual immorality which includes adultery) has been committed and there is a remarriage it is adultery. Is this a lawful marriage because you ask God for forgiveness? Can something God called unlawful become acceptable because you are forgiven?

Luke 16:18 - Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from [her] husband committeth adultery.
1Cor 7:10-11 - And unto the married I command, [yet] not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from [her] husband:[SUP]11[/SUP] But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to [her] husband: and let not the husband put away [his] wife.
1 Corinthians 7:15 - But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such [cases]: but God hath called us to peace.

Matthew 5:32 - But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Romans 7:2 - For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to [her] husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of [her] husband.
Mark 10:10-11- And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
Technically I concede that you are correct; however I believe that the teaching that we are not under law but under grace is more important in some cases.

When Jesus spoke those words, He was addressing unsaved Pharisees who were perverting the Law and adding impossible demands. Besides which the Law was given to show people that they are unable to please God in their own efforts.

Rom 6:14-15
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
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1 Cor 6:12
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
KJV

1 Cor 10:23
23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
KJV


Some husbands are abusive in spite of the fact that they are told to love their wives in a self sacrificing way.

Some wives are abusive to both husband and children.

Sometimes when a person feels the need to choose between two kinds of disobedience; it is not our job to judge them.
 
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...Err... because YOU have NO IDEA what I am talking about???? :rolleyes:
Simple... the order is GOD-> Man-> woman-> children
women were created FOR man to be helpmeet... NOT visa versa.

Also... divorce can be unilateral and joint.
Mrs Know It All, what does that have to do with the OP.
 
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...Err... because YOU have NO IDEA what I am talking about???? :rolleyes:
Simple... the order is GOD-> Man-> woman-> children
women were created FOR man to be helpmeet... NOT visa versa.

Also... divorce can be unilateral and joint.
I am moved by your humblity and genuine generosity.
 

iwant2serve

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Technically I concede that you are correct; however I believe that the teaching that we are not under law but under grace is more important in some cases.

When Jesus spoke those words, He was addressing unsaved Pharisees who were perverting the Law and adding impossible demands. Besides which the Law was given to show people that they are unable to please God in their own efforts.

Rom 6:14-15
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
KJV



1 Cor 6:12
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
KJV

1 Cor 10:23
23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
KJV


Some husbands are abusive in spite of the fact that they are told to love their wives in a self sacrificing way.

Some wives are abusive to both husband and children.

Sometimes when a person feels the need to choose between two kinds of disobedience; it is not our job to judge them.
No we are no longer under the law as Jesus himself was telling them because they were asking something according to the law. This was not just told to the Pharisees but also in the sermon on the mount Matt 5:35 which was addresses to all that were there. So I ask you again how can what Jesus called unlawful become lawful because of grace?
 

iwant2serve

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The best solution is the nest not to be broken to begin with by divorce of the love birds, but mended. For some this is possible, let no man put apart what God has brought together. As it be though some have no choice the other way either, like Michal, David's wife. David did not stone her to death though for her remarriage, which is adultery, albeit forced upon her by Saul. Nor did David kill Phaltiel.

There's also the woman at the well. Jesus never said for divorce her husband or stone her. He just said go sin no more, and she even went back and told her town and they were nice to Jesus and liked him.

Hard problems of those sorts of relationships though. Who can want more problems for those they are trying to help? Don't want any more harm to come to either of the people seems to me the idea. Is not easy as it sounds though. Them relationship type problems are massive especially in our land. Still though, all is not lost yet, but hope towards Jesus.
Her is where I have a problem as in my understanding. When things are talked about like tithing, or Sabbath I hear we are not under the law. Yet on this subject people go back to OT scripture to David to justify their stance. As for the woman at the well Jesus told her she has had 5 husbands and the one she was with now was not hers. Could it be that they were not married at all or that he was telling her that the husband she has now is not hers? Either way he was letting her know she was doing something unlawful in God's eyes.
 
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shotgunner

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In Romans 7 Paul is not addressing marriage relationship between a man and woman. He is using it as an example of how we are free from the law. Thus Paul does not address it as a complete issue and these scriptures should not be used to address marriage relationship between a husband and wife.

However you look at this issue, you must take into consideration that the law of Moses made concessions for divorce. Neither Paul nor Jesus in addressing the issue were contradicting or changing the law. All scriptures concerning the issue must be taken into consideration with none contradicting the others, including the Law of Moses.
 

iwant2serve

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In Romans 7 Paul is not addressing marriage relationship between a man and woman. He is using it as an example of how we are free from the law. Thus Paul does not address it as a complete issue and these scriptures should not be used to address marriage relationship between a husband and wife.

However you look at this issue, you must take into consideration that the law of Moses made concessions for divorce. Neither Paul nor Jesus in addressing the issue were contradicting or changing the law. All scriptures concerning the issue must be taken into consideration with none contradicting the others, including the Law of Moses.
Jesus totally addressed it in Matthew 19:1-12. Please let me know what you find there ok.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Her is where I have a problem as in my understanding. When things are talked about like tithing, or Sabbath I hear we are not under the law. Yet on this subject people go back to OT scripture to David to justify their stance. As for the woman at the well Jesus told her she has had 5 husbands and the one she was with now was not hers. Could it be that they were not married at all or that he was telling her that the husband she has now is not hers? Either way he was letting her know she was doing something unlawful in God's eyes.
Thank You for your honesty regarding the woman at the well reference.... I agree it is worth looking at closer.
1) she was a SAMARIAN not a Jew
2) Jesus said she had had 5 husbands so apparently she was married 5 times
3) Jesus agreed with her that the man she was with WAS NOT HER HUSBAND... which does allude to her NOT being married to him... he didn't say..."go marry him" or "go leave him"... he said "go and sin no more" leaving the scenario OPEN in terms of how to use the passage for instruction in righteousness... and I think then it becomes necessary to judiciously use other scriptures to filter any given scenario about re-marriage "lawfulness".