The 7 seals of Rev. 6...What do you think?

[Josefnospam]

I don't pretend top know all the things in this book nor understand what all the symbolism means. But we do know some things.

The 7 seals have been opened. How do we know this? The scriptures tell us.

Rev. 6:1 "when the Lamb opened one of the seals"
Rev. 6:3 "and when he had opened the 2nd seal"
Rev. 6:5 "and when he had opened the 3rd seal"
Rev. 6:7 "and when he had opened the 4th seal"
Rev. 6:9 "and when he had open the 5th seal"
Rev. 6:12 "and when he had opened the 6th seal"
Rev. 8:1 'and when he had opened the 7th seal"

The 7th seal had seven angels prepared to sound a trumpet....Rev. 8:2 and 6
These seven angels had seven vials which are the wrath of God Rev 16:1

Each of these 7 angels sounded their trumpet and poured out their vails.
When the 7th angel poured out his vail into the AIR, we find the words "it is done" in Rev. 16:17.

When our Lord died on the cross he said "It is finished"
And he the Lord was the one who opened the seals.

Now what do you think and please keep any comments biblical,(give scripture), and as brief as you can.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

While I agree that all seals have been opened, I don't agree that all of Revelation has happened. In fact most of it hasn't.

 

[Josefnospam]

Very Good point to consider. Thank you.....................

 

[Josefnospam]

However it all works out we can be assured Jesus Christ is the only Saviour of all his people, and he will not fail.

 

[MarcR]

I don't pretend top know all the things in this book nor understand what all the symbolism means. But we do know some things.

The 7 seals have been opened. How do we know this? The scriptures tell us.

Rev. 6:1 "when the Lamb opened one of the seals"
Rev. 6:3 "and when he had opened the 2nd seal"
Rev. 6:5 "and when he had opened the 3rd seal"
Rev. 6:7 "and when he had opened the 4th seal"
Rev. 6:9 "and when he had open the 5th seal"
Rev. 6:12 "and when he had opened the 6th seal"
Rev. 8:1 'and when he had opened the 7th seal"

The 7th seal had seven angels prepared to sound a trumpet....Rev. 8:2 and 6
These seven angels had seven vials which are the wrath of God Rev 16:1

Each of these 7 angels sounded their trumpet and poured out their vails.
When the 7th angel poured out his vail into the AIR, we find the words "it is done" in Rev. 16:17.

When our Lord died on the cross he said "It is finished"
And he the Lord was the one who opened the seals.

Now what do you think and please keep any comments biblical,(give scripture), and as brief as you can.

Rev 4:1
4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
KJV

All that follows, including the seven seals, is presented as John's vision of things which must be hereafter.

 

[valiant]

I don't pretend top know all the things in this book nor understand what all the symbolism means. But we do know some things.

The 7 seals have been opened. How do we know this? The scriptures tell us.

Rev. 6:1 "when the Lamb opened one of the seals"
Rev. 6:3 "and when he had opened the 2nd seal"
Rev. 6:5 "and when he had opened the 3rd seal"
Rev. 6:7 "and when he had opened the 4th seal"
Rev. 6:9 "and when he had open the 5th seal"
Rev. 6:12 "and when he had opened the 6th seal"
Rev. 8:1 'and when he had opened the 7th seal"

The 7th seal had seven angels prepared to sound a trumpet....Rev. 8:2 and 6
These seven angels had seven vials which are the wrath of God Rev 16:1

Each of these 7 angels sounded their trumpet and poured out their vails.
When the 7th angel poured out his vail into the AIR, we find the words "it is done" in Rev. 16:17.

When our Lord died on the cross he said "It is finished"
And he the Lord was the one who opened the seals.

Now what do you think and please keep any comments biblical,(give scripture), and as brief as you can.

The seven seals were opened revealing the history of the world from 1st century AD to the second coming (seal 6).

The first seal patterned Matt 24.5. - false Christs

the second seal patterned Matt 24.6-7a. - war

the third seal patterned 24.7b - famine

the fourth seal patterned 24.7c famine, pestilence, earthquakes

the fifth seal patterned 24.9 - persecution

the sixth seal patterned 24.29-33 - the second coming and God's judgment.

the seventh seal contained seven trumpets which paralleled the six seals showing intensification of what was in the seals in various places.

Revelation splits up into a number of visions each ending with the second coming

first vision rev 6

second vision rev7

third vision rev 8-11

fourth vision rev 12-14

fifth vision rev 15-16

sixth vision 17-19

seventh vision 20

eighth vision 21-22

each commences in 1st century AD and continues history to the second coming

John probably wrote in 70 AD (the sixth head) of what would then follow 'hereafter'

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I see the book of Revelation reading like the story of the fall of Jericho. You have 7 priests with 7 rams horns (7 angels with 7 trumpets) who go around the city ( this world) for one rotation per the first 6 days (6 seals). This is the sign of 6 days x 7 priests=42 (like the sign of time 42 months) This sign of time will be concluded on the 6th seal. (fullness of Gentiles)

Then on the 7th day (7th seal) the 7 priests ( 7 angels) go around the city (world) blowing their trumpets for 7 rotations= 7x7 (7 trumpets, 7 vials of wrath) with the dead in Christ being raised first on the last trump.

I personally believe we are nearing the 6th seal being loosed.

 

[MarcR]

I see the book of Revelation reading like the story of the fall of Jericho. You have 7 priests with 7 rams horns (7 angels with 7 trumpets) who go around the city ( this world) for one rotation per the first 6 days (6 seals). This is the sign of 6 days x 7 priests=42 (like the sign of time 42 months) This sign of time will be concluded on the 6th seal. (fullness of Gentiles)

Then on the 7th day (7th seal) the 7 priests ( 7 angels) go around the city (world) blowing their trumpets for 7 rotations= 7x7 (7 trumpets, 7 vials of wrath) with the dead in Christ being raised first on the last trump.

I personally believe we are nearing the 6th seal being loosed.

I Fully agree! I also think that the OP is playing games and needs to be told so.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Rev 4:1
4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
KJV

All that follows, including the seven seals, is presented as John's vision of things which must be hereafter.

I think what that verse means is that John will be shown things in heaven that occur after what he was just shown on earth.

I will be showing to you what must be occurring after these [things I just showed you].​

 

[weakness]

I think that Jesus fulfilling his calling and drinking his cup from the father assured its fulfillment at a later time.

 

[Josefnospam]

Question? who or what is OP..............I don't know

Also thank you all for some good comments to consider.

 

[MarcR]

Question? who or what is OP..............I don't know

Also thank you all for some good comments to consider.

OP is Original post or original poster (the one who started the thread)

 

[PTH]

When the 7th angel poured out the vial a voice from the throne saying it is done. Rev. 10:6&7 says that there should be time no longer but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel. Some people say delay no longer which is a bad interpetation. This is the same seventh angel. The 7th seal, the 7th trumpet, the 7th vial all end with some order of voices, and thundering,and lightnings and and an earthquake. These are the same endings. Bottom line is as Chapters 6 and 7 goes in Rev. so goes the rest of Rev. The rest of Rev. to Rev 21:4 describe chapter 6 and 7 in detail. Hope I am not getting to long. You can start in reverse order this may help. Rev. 21:4 and Rev. 7:17 God shall wipe awey all tears from their eyes. this is when New Jerusalem comes down. Rev. 19:4-10 and Rev 7:9-14, the marriage supper of the lamb. Rev.16 17-21 and Rev. 6:12-17 The destruction of Mystery Babylon in which Rev. chapters 17 and 18 desciibe in detail the 7th vial. Maybe hard to believe but it is true.

 

[dcontroversal]

I see the book of Revelation reading like the story of the fall of Jericho. You have 7 priests with 7 rams horns (7 angels with 7 trumpets) who go around the city ( this world) for one rotation per the first 6 days (6 seals). This is the sign of 6 days x 7 priests=42 (like the sign of time 42 months) This sign of time will be concluded on the 6th seal. (fullness of Gentiles)

Then on the 7th day (7th seal) the 7 priests ( 7 angels) go around the city (world) blowing their trumpets for 7 rotations= 7x7 (7 trumpets, 7 vials of wrath) with the dead in Christ being raised first on the last trump.

I personally believe we are nearing the 6th seal being loosed.

Yeah..I have posted this probably 5 times over the last almost 2 years..they follow the order of the seals and trumpets precisely....including the language found in 1st Corinthians 15 and 1st Thessalonians 4...with the words..shout..ascension and victory.....and even the hidden 7 thunders are not referenced and or revealed in the siege and fall of Jericho which is the 1st victory after leaving the wilderness of sin.......

 

[PTH]

dcontroversal Maybe I have been blessed because I have no idea what you just said. The 7 thunders are not hidden. Read Rev. 22:10

 

[PTH]

Maybe I should have said what spirit in truth said

 

[Ahwatukee]

dcontroversal Maybe I have been blessed because I have no idea what you just said. The 7 thunders are not hidden. Read Rev. 22:10

Hello PTH, Here is Rev.22:10

"Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near."

Therefore, since John was told not to write what the seven thunders said, then everything else that is written is revealed here in Revelation with the exception of the what seven thunders uttered.

 

[Ahwatukee]

I don't pretend top know all the things in this book nor understand what all the symbolism means. But we do know some things.

The 7 seals have been opened. How do we know this? The scriptures tell us.

Rev. 6:1 "when the Lamb opened one of the seals"
Rev. 6:3 "and when he had opened the 2nd seal"
Rev. 6:5 "and when he had opened the 3rd seal"
Rev. 6:7 "and when he had opened the 4th seal"
Rev. 6:9 "and when he had open the 5th seal"
Rev. 6:12 "and when he had opened the 6th seal"
Rev. 8:1 'and when he had opened the 7th seal"

The 7th seal had seven angels prepared to sound a trumpet....Rev. 8:2 and 6
These seven angels had seven vials which are the wrath of God Rev 16:1

Each of these 7 angels sounded their trumpet and poured out their vails.
When the 7th angel poured out his vail into the AIR, we find the words "it is done" in Rev. 16:17.

When our Lord died on the cross he said "It is finished"
And he the Lord was the one who opened the seals.

Now what do you think and please keep any comments biblical,(give scripture), and as brief as you can.

When Jesus said, "it is finished" he was referring to the fulfillment of all that was prophesied of him, namely, to fulfill the righteous requirements of the law and to pay the penalty for sin, to name the major ones. It had nothing to do with the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments. John was seeing visions of what was to take place in the future. In other words, at some time in the future, Jesus is literally going to take the scroll out of the right hand of God the Father and he is going to open that first seal, which will result in the revealing of the rider on the white horse, which represents the antichrist. From there, the rest of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will follow, in the order that they are listed. The only way that anyone can claim the fulfillment of these plagues of wrath as being completed is to symbolize or allegorize them so that they don't mean what they plainly say. However, they are most definitely to be interpreted literally and that in fulfillment of the following, for one:

"I will sweep away everything from the face of the earth, When I destroy all mankindon the face of the earth, declares the Lord. I will sweep away both man and beast;
I will sweep away the birds in the sky and the fish in the sea—and the idols that cause
the wicked to stumble. When I destroy all mankind on the face of the earth,” (Zeph.1:2)

"I will make man scarcer than pure gold, more rare that the gold of Ophir." (Isaiah 13:12)

The above are just a few of the prophesies regarding the day of the Lord, the wrath of God, which is still coming. For everything that is written must be fulfilled and that because it is God's word and he cannot lie.

 

[PTH]

God can do as he wishes both in Rev.10:4 and Rev.22:10.

 

[dcontroversal]

dcontroversal Maybe I have been blessed because I have no idea what you just said. The 7 thunders are not hidden. Read Rev. 22:10

Post 17 answers this nicely....what the thunders uttered has not been revealed.......