"God doesn't give you commandments you can't keep." says street preacher.

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nowyouseem033

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Least said:
Because you said so it must be true...

I'll stick with the scriptures.
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Actually and technically your sticking with the idea of mankind being inherently good which is not biblical at all and also obedience yielding out of a heart of self (obligation) rather God (joy), which is also unbiblical given the fact that none obey God. :)
 
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Least said:
Are you referring to this as their last post? Because it shows on their profile as their last post.
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I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that person was banned. I was speaking of LieDetector.
 
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nowyouseem033 said:
The law was never intended for you to obey it out obligation...

The law was always intended for you to obey it out of a heart of willingness and eagerness... something you CANNOT (unable), do unless there is a fundamental change in your nature.. i.e until you are born again.

If you ARE obeying the law out of obligation then you are bringing yourself under the condemnation of the law. If you are obeying it out of obligation then you have completely missed the whole point of the purposes of the law and the need for a Saviour
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Peter himself said after he received the spirit that the law was an unbearable yoke.
 
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You're pretty good at evasion. But I do now believe you've answered my question - by refusing to answer my question.

Oh, and please don't play the martyr with the "stones" comment.
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Well I'm glad that my answer was sufficient for you Budman.

God's word should be more sufficient, it's not evasive at all.

Verbal stones have been flying for days here on CC....Snarkyness isn't impressive.
 
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.Snarkyness isn't impressive.
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Then you should stop practicing it.
 
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Why can't you hear Acts 15:10-11?
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Least said:
Goodness Herosefromthedead,
I've studied it, read it many times and have gone over and over these things prayerfully.
I think what you're really asking is "why won't you hear me?"
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What Peter said is plain speech, yet you continue to ignore it.
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Peter himself said after he received the spirit that the law was an unbearable yoke.
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Herose, This has been debated many, many times here on CC, but has it been resolved? I'm not sure that a conclusion will ever be settled on these matters until Jesus returns.
 
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Jesus said "if you love me,keep my commandments" did he not?
 
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Least. Stop bringing people to a sense of obligation and again burdening them with the yoke of the law

and start explain to people why they never could and never would keep the law completely... i.e sinful nature. (for which the law was always meant to show you)
 
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nowyouseem033 said:
The street preacher is wrong!!
The purpose of the commandments were to show you that you CANT KEEP THEM and are in need of a Saviour WHO CAN KEEP THEM!!

Hypothetically if you can keep all the commandments and do keep all the commandments then why the hell do you need a Saviour for then.. ?
The law was never meant for us to obey in and of ourselves, because that would be called self righteousness. Gods intentions in the giving of the law was not for you to be righteous in your own self, but to understand your complete inadequacy and utter depravity so that the law DRIVES you and POINTS you to an abled, perfect, sinless SAVIOUR!!!
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That's what I am talking about! :D Reminds me of this verse...

Galatians 2:21King James Version (KJV)

21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
 
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nowyouseem033 said:
Least. Stop bringing people to a sense of obligation and again burdening them with the yoke of the law

and start explain to people why they never could and never would keep the law completely... i.e sinful nature. (for which the law was always meant to show you)
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LOL Because you believe that to be true I need to stop speaking about believing all of God's word?

I guess you told me nowyouseeme! (sigh)

I guess we all need to smile once in a while...
 
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kaylagrl said:
Jesus said "if you love me,keep my commandments" did he not?
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he did but the important statement is 'if you love me'

don't you think a person who loves God will delight in keeping his law as the psalmist says because that person has been born again and has a new nature inside of them.
i.e he keeps the law out of hhhhmmmmm oh right joy and desire, rather than hhhhmmmm oh right obligation and condemnation
 
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If you are referring to the banning of a particular person, I was surprised to see them banned. I noticed their last thread though was one that condemned everyone else but not them and their church. Everyone else doesn't walk the narrow path, but they do (supposedly). I am not sure if that thread is what got them banned or who got the person banned, but its not really for us to discuss, lest we get banned.

The street preacher was correct? I think the preacher may be lowering the standard of the law to something he feels he can keep adequately and yet he falls completely short of the glory of God. His statement couldn't be further from the truth and one need not even a day to see they can't keep the commandments. They will, however, see their need for Jesus. :)
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It is sad, even today, that people can not see the sly little lie the so called preacher did. Adding the word "perfect"

He is not preaching obey Gods commands, He is preaching sinless perfection. Noah was perfect? I guess he has not read the OT.

Being called righteous men does not mean we are perfect..
 
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Least said:
I suppose you are going to hear what you want to hear. I've said it over and over again..NOBODY has been telling others that they had to keep the Law. We are all responsible and accountable for our own walk in and with Christ.

I believe that every word of God is true, regardless of who disagrees with that...

Call me legalistic if that's your preference. I'm glad that God is my judge and nothing is hidden from HIM.
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so you too, think we do not believe the whole council of God? Are you stating that because a few people told you this, or are you actually basing this on what we have said, if the second, can you show us what we have said to make you think that way?
 
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Herose, This has been debated many, many times here on CC, but has it been resolved? I'm not sure that a conclusion will ever be settled on these matters until Jesus returns.
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It's been resolved:

Galatians 5:18

Romans 10:4

Galatians 2:16

Ephesians 2:15

1 Timothy 1:8

Galatians 2:21

Galatians 3:10-13, 18-25

Galatians 5:4

Hebrews 7:18-19

Romans 7:4-6

Colossians 2:14

Romans 8:2

2 Corinthians 3:14-16

Romans 3:20-22, 27-28
 
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I believe in all of God's commandments from beginning to end. I believe that Every Word of God is true.

I think I hear stones hitting my computer screen...
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are you perfect?

and PS. we believe this also.. Everything from gen 1 to rev 21 is from God. and all should be studied and taken in context.


 
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its as simple as saying:

I obey Christ because i have his favour in my life (that would be called grace)

verses

I obey Christ because i want his favour in my life (that would be called.... self righteousness)
 
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nowyouseem033 said:
he did but the important statement is 'if you love me'

don't you think a person who loves God will delight in keeping his law as the psalmist says because that person has been born again and has a new nature inside of them.
i.e he keeps the law out of hhhhmmmmm oh right joy and desire, rather than hhhhmmmm oh right obligation and condemnation
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If you are suggesting that people can now keep the 10 commandments because they have spirit, then you are in just as much error as the street preacher is.
 
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Herose, This has been debated many, many times here on CC, but has it been resolved? I'm not sure that a conclusion will ever be settled on these matters until Jesus returns.
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Funny, only because I said the exact same thing yesterday.
 
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