I'll hold that widow in a full nelson, you grab her purse!

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Luke 20:40. And they dared not ask Him anymore questions(lest they hear what they don't want to hear).

Vs. 46 Beware of the scribes( church leaders) which love to wear expensive suits and love to be esteemed in Public places and love the main seat of honor on the podium in the church in front of everybody, and the chief seat at the church dinners.
They have no problem lying to the widows about tithing. They'll take the tenth of their social security check and then say 'let us pray........'! Living lavishly off the backs of the poor.
Jesus saw the well to do putting their money in the offering plate then a poor widow put all her money into the plate with nothing left over.
Jesus pointed to this corrupt religious system and He rested His In so many words, 'This poor widow turned all her monthly check over to these wolves that received it happily with dollar signs in their eyes. They gave out of their exorbitant abundance.'

I submit that lies have been propagated by greedy men to convince the sheep that this robbery and devouring of a widow's income is endorsed by God as the way to sacrificialy give. Context tells us otherwise. Let's see now. You give your whole check every week into that plate shoved under your nose and just how far do you think you'll get. Is this where the term 'dumb sheep' was birthed?

Paul refutes this scandalous deception when he says that we are to give NOT to the point where it hurts us but what we can afford. Then it is to give to the poor and traveling preachers/missionaries.

Take a somber note: right after this, Jesus tells them how He's going to bring this whole money mad religious system down in 70ad. The robbers of the poor have their days numbered and may I throw in right here, the robbers behind the elevated pulpits that are causing this hardship on the widows and poor of today, have few days left to work their fraud and abuse! Count on it!
 

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Your version of this biblical passage is inaccurate and therefore not worth a detailed reply.
 
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Remembers this always my brethren :happy:
You don't own us anything or whatever you may could it
But you owned it to
Our lord god the father almighty who is good and doesn't lie and to
Our lord god the only begotten son Jesus Christ who is our saviour
When the time comes . ...

James: 1. 26. If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
27. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As we always said we are not interested in money or whatever the world may offer
Becaused even us cannot pay our debt to
Our lord god the father and to our lord god the only begotten son
 
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Luke 20:40. And they dared not ask Him anymore questions(lest they hear what they don't want to hear).

Vs. 46 Beware of the scribes( church leaders) which love to wear expensive suits and love to be esteemed in Public places and love the main seat of honor on the podium in the church in front of everybody, and the chief seat at the church dinners.
They have no problem lying to the widows about tithing. They'll take the tenth of their social security check and then say 'let us pray........'! Living lavishly off the backs of the poor.
Jesus saw the well to do putting their money in the offering plate then a poor widow put all her money into the plate with nothing left over.
Jesus pointed to this corrupt religious system and He rested His In so many words, 'This poor widow turned all her monthly check over to these wolves that received it happily with dollar signs in their eyes. They gave out of their exorbitant abundance.'

I submit that lies have been propagated by greedy men to convince the sheep that this robbery and devouring of a widow's income is endorsed by God as the way to sacrificialy give. Context tells us otherwise. Let's see now. You give your whole check every week into that plate shoved under your nose and just how far do you think you'll get. Is this where the term 'dumb sheep' was birthed?

Paul refutes this scandalous deception when he says that we are to give NOT to the point where it hurts us but what we can afford. Then it is to give to the poor and traveling preachers/missionaries.

Take a somber note: right after this, Jesus tells them how He's going to bring this whole money mad religious system down in 70ad. The robbers of the poor have their days numbered and may I throw in right here, the robbers behind the elevated pulpits that are causing this hardship on the widows and poor of today, have few days left to work their fraud and abuse! Count on it!
Nice how you rewrote verse 46 to fit your agenda
 

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Nice how you rewrote verse 46 to fit your agenda
Just joined, first post, not holding back regarding the sanctity of Scripture. You're alright in my book, Brother. Welcome to CC. I mean that with complete sincerity and a loving heart. :cool:
 
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Your version of this biblical passage is inaccurate and therefore not worth a detailed reply.
I agree and second that! Nothing more than his usual rant over money....
 
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Breaking news:....This just in.....it seems that all the churches in the world were involved is a elaborate ponzi scam that cheated Christians out of millions. Yet a devout Christian exposed this scandle and the authorities are investigating.
It seems that the key suspect is Jesus (aka) god and authorities are waiting for his return so they can question him.
Film at eleven.
 
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:news: Hope we all could see it but most of our brethren and fellows
live in the mountains :sigh:
 
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2 Thessalonians 3:6-15
6Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, 8nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. 9It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. 10For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. 11For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. 12Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.[SUP]d[/SUP]
13As for you, brothers, do not grow weary in doing good. 14If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. 15Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
 
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2 Thessalonians 3:6-15
6Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, 8nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. 9It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. 10For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. 11For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. 12Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.[SUP]d[/SUP]
13As for you, brothers, do not grow weary in doing good. 14If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. 15Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
Are you saying that we should not have fellowship with those who are retired and on SS, those who are disabled, those who are unemployed and can not find work?
 
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Luke 20:40. And they dared not ask Him anymore questions(lest they hear what they don't want to hear).

Vs. 46 Beware of the scribes( church leaders) which love to wear expensive suits and love to be esteemed in Public places and love the main seat of honor on the podium in the church in front of everybody, and the chief seat at the church dinners.
They have no problem lying to the widows about tithing. They'll take the tenth of their social security check and then say 'let us pray........'! Living lavishly off the backs of the poor.
Jesus saw the well to do putting their money in the offering plate then a poor widow put all her money into the plate with nothing left over.
Jesus pointed to this corrupt religious system and He rested His In so many words, 'This poor widow turned all her monthly check over to these wolves that received it happily with dollar signs in their eyes. They gave out of their exorbitant abundance.'

I submit that lies have been propagated by greedy men to convince the sheep that this robbery and devouring of a widow's income is endorsed by God as the way to sacrificialy give. Context tells us otherwise. Let's see now. You give your whole check every week into that plate shoved under your nose and just how far do you think you'll get. Is this where the term 'dumb sheep' was birthed?

Paul refutes this scandalous deception when he says that we are to give NOT to the point where it hurts us but what we can afford. Then it is to give to the poor and traveling preachers/missionaries.

Take a somber note: right after this, Jesus tells them how He's going to bring this whole money mad religious system down in 70ad. The robbers of the poor have their days numbered and may I throw in right here, the robbers behind the elevated pulpits that are causing this hardship on the widows and poor of today, have few days left to work their fraud and abuse! Count on it!
most of us know that this is a wide spread problem, these folks are only fooling the believers that just sit by and want their ears tickled...................they are getting what they want and deserve. If they would study just a bit and get to know the mind of Christ,these wolves would start starving. We are not going to stop it.


There ARE churches out there that still do it right................FIND ONE. We do church over the internet, we searched in our geographical area for about 2 years for a doctrinal church. Couldn't find one. And we didn't just quit and persecute the churches around us. We found one.

FIND ONE.
 
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2 Thessalonians 3:6-15
6Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us. 7For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, 8nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. 9It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. 10For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. 11For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busybodies. 12Now such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their work quietly and to earn their own living.[SUP]d[/SUP]
13As for you, brothers, do not grow weary in doing good. 14If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. 15Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
Are you saying that we should not have fellowship with those who are retired and on SS, those who are disabled, those who are unemployed and can not find work?
2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

i simply quoted scripture from brother Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in response to the OP. Your presumptions and assumptions of me quoting Paul's second epistle to the Thessalonians in regards to those brothers and sisters who are unable to work and attempting to apply it as my intention to say we should not have fellowship with them is wrong to say the least.
Paul's epistle is a warning against idleness in a Christian's life. If we are idle, the devil and a corrupt heart will soon find something for us to do like meddling in others affairs as busybodies for the devil and not those employed in God's service to our fellow man.
"The mind of man is a busy thing; if it is not employed in doing good, it will be doing evil."
 
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2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

i simply quoted scripture from brother Paul's second letter to the Thessalonians in response to the OP. Your presumptions and assumptions of me quoting Paul's second epistle to the Thessalonians in regards to those brothers and sisters who are unable to work and attempting to apply it as my intention to say we should not have fellowship with them is wrong to say the least.
Paul's epistle is a warning against idleness in a Christian's life. If we are idle, the devil and a corrupt heart will soon find something for us to do like meddling in others affairs as busybodies for the devil and not those employed in God's service to our fellow man.
"The mind of man is a busy thing; if it is not employed in doing good, it will be doing evil."
Thanks for your responce.
You made no comment after your scripture quote, and I misunderstood what you ment.
I am sorry that I misunderstood you.
 
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Thanks for your responce.
You made no comment after your scripture quote, and I misunderstood what you ment.
I am sorry that I misunderstood you.
No worries friend, i'm sorry that my response not coupled with a comment caused a misunderstanding.

Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. :)
 

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Luke 20:40. And they dared not ask Him anymore questions(lest they hear what they don't want to hear).

Vs. 46 Beware of the scribes( church leaders) which love to wear expensive suits and love to be esteemed in Public places and love the main seat of honor on the podium in the church in front of everybody, and the chief seat at the church dinners.
They have no problem lying to the widows about tithing. They'll take the tenth of their social security check and then say 'let us pray........'! Living lavishly off the backs of the poor.
Jesus saw the well to do putting their money in the offering plate then a poor widow put all her money into the plate with nothing left over.
Jesus pointed to this corrupt religious system and He rested His In so many words, 'This poor widow turned all her monthly check over to these wolves that received it happily with dollar signs in their eyes. They gave out of their exorbitant abundance.'

I submit that lies have been propagated by greedy men to convince the sheep that this robbery and devouring of a widow's income is endorsed by God as the way to sacrificialy give. Context tells us otherwise. Let's see now. You give your whole check every week into that plate shoved under your nose and just how far do you think you'll get. Is this where the term 'dumb sheep' was birthed?

Paul refutes this scandalous deception when he says that we are to give NOT to the point where it hurts us but what we can afford. Then it is to give to the poor and traveling preachers/missionaries.

Take a somber note: right after this, Jesus tells them how He's going to bring this whole money mad religious system down in 70ad. The robbers of the poor have their days numbered and may I throw in right here, the robbers behind the elevated pulpits that are causing this hardship on the widows and poor of today, have few days left to work their fraud and abuse! Count on it!
Where exactly did Jesus say he was going to bring down the money religious system?
 

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Give and it shall be given you!
Cast your bread upon the waters and after many days, it will come back to you!
You just obey, give freely without grudging.
 
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Your version of this biblical passage is inaccurate and therefore not worth a detailed reply.
Something I keep wondering -- I agree, not worth responding to, but why do people keep responding anyway?
 
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Move on people, nothing to see here, go on about your lives.

Even so, I think your gist and point was taken, but you shouldn't taken license with the scripture. :D