Who wrote the 4 gospels of the New Testament and when?

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Ahwatukee

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I disagree,John was written at least 93years after the death of Christ so was not written by John the disciple,Mathew and Luke use a massive amount of the earliest gospel,ie Mark. None of the gospels are eye witness accounts as far as I can see,I can just about belive they were handed down through the generations by word of mouth but still can't comprehend how such an important period of human history was only recorded 60-70 years at the earliest after His death? I'm still researching who the original authors were according to religious and non religiuos writers,I'm also looking to find any references to jesus from non religious commentators of a His time,like the Romans for instance,who were meticulous record keepers and surley would have mentioned a Man/movement that was causing them much concern at the time
I'm just telling you who wrote the books man! You can count on this collection of books that we call the Bible, that it is the truth and accuracy of God's word. If it wasn't, God wouldn't have allowed it.
 
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Unbiased people? Where in the world would you propose to find any such creatures? :eek:

Jesus said, "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."
That's a it naughty of you to edit my quote,why didn't u include my whole quote so others could see the point I was trying to make? Please stop replying to me if you are going to edit my responses to make me look like a fool
 
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Yeah, pretty much today's commentaries. Except OUR boys tend to add a lot more. LOL
They are not commentaries really. I've read through some of it in Aramaic. It's like reading scripture with tweaks and additions here and there. Nothing like modern commentaries.
 

Ahwatukee

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well " I'm coming soon " could mean tommorow or in ten thousand years according to some translations of time spans in the bible!!! This is what I mean by the authors of the gospels using there own words to appeal to people of there own time,this is why I'm trying to find out who wrote the gospels and when,this is why I think double meanings and different times occurring in the same verse is just man looking for somthing to relate to in any given time,surley scripture should be easy to understand? Why would God make it so difficult? There's no reason to make it duplicitous,THOW SHALL NOT STEAL can't mean anything else can it?
Though there are different details found within the four gospels, there is unity and consistency. Why can't you just accept them as the word of God without trying to create a conspiracy?
 
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They are not commentaries really. I've read through some of it in Aramaic. It's like reading scripture with tweaks and additions here and there. Nothing like modern commentaries.
Tweaks and additions?? Tweaking and adding to inspired writings? I'm getting lost here guys
 

Billyd

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I have been doing some research and it appears that the four gospels were not written by anyone who actually knew Jesus,the earliest,Mark was apparently written somewhere between 60 and 80 years after Jesus's death,Mathew between 70 and 100,Luke and John after 93yrs of His death and all in Greek,not Hebrew and not by jews. What I can't understand is why the Appostles themselves didn't actually write anything down or did they?
May I ask you what year you are using for AD 1?
 
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Though there are different details found within the four gospels, there is unity and consistency. Why can't you just accept them as the word of God without trying to create a conspiracy?
Because I have an inquiring mind and belive we should all seek the truth,how can we know the truth without asking questions?
 

Magenta

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The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables:
“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.


In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:

‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’


But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
 
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Tweaks and additions?? Tweaking and adding to inspired writings? I'm getting lost here guys
This is Zechariah 14:3 from Targum Jonathan to the Prophets. Tweek in red, addition in green. I guess in this case you could say it's all an addition. This particular addition noted is a variant found in only some manuscripts.

And the Lord shall be revealed, and fight in battle against those nations as the day he fought in battle at the Red Sea. In that time, the Lord shall take a great shofar in hand and sound ten trumpet blasts to make the dead live. Zechariah 14:3
 
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May I ask you what year you are using for AD 1?
Well I wasn't being that's specific but from what I'm reading on the internet AD 1 would be the year after Jesus died or am I wrong? 1 or 2 years won't make any difference,I did say dates between x amount of years !!!!
 

Magenta

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That's a it naughty of you to edit my quote,why didn't u include my whole quote so others could see the point I was trying to make? Please stop replying to me if you are going to edit my responses to make me look like a fool
I will edit your posts as I see fit to respond to those parts I am addressing. I did not in any way change the meaning of what you said, so if you feel you have been made to look a fool, it was of your own doing.
 
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Tweaks and additions?? Tweaking and adding to inspired writings? I'm getting lost here guys
Studies in Targum Jonathan to the Prophets, Leivy Smolar, et al, pg. xxix
The Halacha in Targum Jonathan is that of Judaism as defined by R[abbi]. Akiba and his school. Since Biblical practices often differed from those considered proper in Rabbinic times, the Targumists deliberately changed the text whenever necessary to bring it into conformity with Rabbinic Halacha. Historical accuracy was often sacrificed for the sake of Halachic expediency and need.
 
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well " I'm coming soon " could mean tommorow or in ten thousand years according to some translations of time spans in the bible!!! This is what I mean by the authors of the gospels using there own words to appeal to people of there own time,this is why I'm trying to find out who wrote the gospels and when,this is why I think double meanings and different times occurring in the same verse is just man looking for somthing to relate to in any given time,surley scripture should be easy to understand? Why would God make it so difficult? There's no reason to make it duplicitous,THOW SHALL NOT STEAL can't mean anything else can it?
I think you hit upon something here that we "moderns" tend to not only overlook, but, flat out, deny. And, that is that those old writers wrote in their esoteric way, to their own people, in their specific time. And we try to read it all with 21st century eyes, and comprehend it with 21st century minds.
 
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This is Zechariah 14:3 from Targum Jonathan to the Prophets. Tweek in red, addition in green. I guess in this case you could say it's all an addition. This particular addition noted is a variant found in only some manuscripts.
And the Lord shall be revealed, and fight in battle against those nations as the day he fought in battle at the Red Sea. In that time, the Lord shall take a great shofar in hand and sound ten trumpet blasts to make the dead live. Zechariah 14:3
That leaves All scripture open to massive changes by whoever happend to be translating the original text! That just crazy!!! How can this be accepted? How can millions of people live there lives according to scripture that's open to massive ad ons of any particular translator/commentator,this surley can't be regarded as inspired writing?
 

Magenta

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That leaves All scripture open to massive changes by whoever happend to be translating the original text! That just crazy!!! How can this be accepted? How can millions of people live there lives according to scripture that's open to massive ad ons of any particular translator/commentator,this surley can't be regarded as inspired writing?
You are not comprehending what you are reading. The Scripture reads:

Then the LORD will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle. (NIV)
 
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That leaves All scripture open to massive changes by whoever happend to be translating the original text! That just crazy!!! How can this be accepted? How can millions of people live there lives according to scripture that's open to massive ad ons of any particular translator/commentator,this surley can't be regarded as inspired writing?
I think you are onto a lot. But, you will find little acceptance, or understanding of such a view here.... or most places, for that matter.

But, by all means, don't stop questioning and studying. You may be one of those at the forefront of bringing Christ back to Christianity.
 

Billyd

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Well I wasn't being that's specific but from what I'm reading on the internet AD 1 would be the year after Jesus died or am I wrong? 1 or 2 years won't make any difference,I did say dates between x amount of years !!!!
Your dates are off by about 30 years. Jesus died in or about AD 33. I believe that John completed Revelations about 95 AD.
 
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I'm just telling you who wrote the books man! You can count on this collection of books that we call the Bible, that it is the truth and accuracy of God's word. If it wasn't, God wouldn't have allowed it.
Hmm what about all the tweaks and add ons from different translators throughout history,I refer you to #30 friend
 

Magenta

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Hmm what about all the tweaks and add ons from different translators throughout history,I refer you to #30 friend
That was not Scripture, but from Targum Jonathan to the Prophets.

Like I said, you are not comprehending what you are reading.