Who wrote the 4 gospels of the New Testament and when?

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Your dates are off by about 30 years. Jesus died in or about AD 33. I believe that John completed Revelations about 95 AD.
Oh well done,u got me on starting from the wrong date,there's me thinking AD 1 was the year after Jesus died when it was the year he was born,,so we're saying John wrote his part about 60years after Jesus's death? This begs the question why wait so long?
 

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Oh well done,u got me on starting from the wrong date,there's me thinking AD 1 was the year after Jesus died when it was the year he was born,,so we're saying John wrote his part about 60years after Jesus's death? This begs the question why wait so long?
You have already been given an answer to that question. (Post #14)
 
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They are not commentaries really. I've read through some of it in Aramaic. It's like reading scripture with tweaks and additions here and there. Nothing like modern commentaries.
Ok, ok.... just trying to make it simple and plain to readers here. They were Mikra, translated into Aramaic.
 
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Oh well done,u got me on starting from the wrong date,there's me thinking AD 1 was the year after Jesus died when it was the year he was born,,so we're saying John wrote his part about 60years after Jesus's death? This begs the question why wait so long?
Hummm..... Just to keep it interesting, I think he wrote about 60 years after Jesus' BIRTH.
 
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#46
There would have been no reason for the apostles to have written in Hebrew because so few people understood it. The Septuagint was written approx. 100-200 years before Christ.

[FONT=ARIAL,HELVETICA,SANS-SERIF]The Jews upheld the Septuagint very strongly for the first 300 years as the Word of God, but when the Christians took a hold of it, then the Jews rejected it. Then the Jews started rewriting the Septuagint in the 2nd and 3rd centuries to suit their purposes. They were "Making the word of God of none effect through [their] tradition " (Mark 7:13).

The Septuagint (LXX)
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#47
Oh well done,u got me on starting from the wrong date,there's me thinking AD 1 was the year after Jesus died when it was the year he was born,,so we're saying John wrote his part about 60years after Jesus's death? This begs the question why wait so long?
I would ask why not? I believe he spent the time between the death of Christ and the writing of the Gospel preaching and teaching the Gospel. God new that he was approaching the end of his days, and thus inspired him to write what he had always been doing so we would have his words to use. The same is true of all the writers of the Gospels.
 
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I think you are onto a lot. But, you will find little acceptance, or understanding of such a view here.... or most places, for that matter.

But, by all means, don't stop questioning and studying. You may be one of those at the forefront of bringing Christ back to Christianity.
I doubt that mate,it seems to me I get ridiculed and led down the wrong paths by a lot of people on here not u I'm glad to say! I'd just like to be able to make some sort of sence of the time scale of the gospels being written,in #38 for instance,anyway,thank you for your answers! The search continues!!!!!
 
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I would ask why not? I believe he spent the time between the death of Christ and the writing of the Gospel preaching and teaching the Gospel. God new that he was approaching the end of his days, and thus inspired him to write what he had always been doing so we would have his words to use. The same is true of all the writers of the Gospels.
Well that's your opinion and u could be correct,I happen to think anyone who witnessed the life of Jesus and realised who He was would of written about it a lot sooner,almost immediately in fact,to help him and others spread the word
 

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Oh well done,u got me on starting from the wrong date,there's me thinking AD 1 was the year after Jesus died when it was the year he was born,,so we're saying John wrote his part about 60years after Jesus's death? This begs the question why wait so long?
There are good grounds for thinking that John wrote Revelation in around 70 AD for it refers to seven 'rulers' with the sixth being alive when Revelation was written. This would suggest it was Vespasian or even Nero.

Luke almost certainly wrote his Gospel prior to 65 AD for he closes its second part (Acts) with Paul still in prison in Rome for the first time. It is almost inconceivable that he ended there if he knew that Paul had been martyred or that Jerusalem had been destroyed. He also testifies to the fact that there were many written 'lives of Jesus' at the time he was writing. These would almost certainly include both Mark and Matthew. His outline suggests that he certainly knew Mark. Thus we should date Mark, and probably Matthew, in the fifties.

Mark wrote under the influence of Peter, thus prior to 60 AD when he was with Paul

Matthews work contains much unique material, especially words of Jesus, but also shows signs of the use of oral tradition well known in the churches. Given his active ministry the Gospel may well have taken him ten years to write. which would suggest that he began writing in the forties using as a basis the sermons of Jesus he himself as a former literary tax collector which he had written down. They bear the clear mark of their Aramaic origins, although Matthew definitely wrote in Greek (it is not translation Greek which is clearly identifiable).
 
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That leaves All scripture open to massive changes by whoever happend to be translating the original text! That just crazy!!! How can this be accepted? How can millions of people live there lives according to scripture that's open to massive ad ons of any particular translator/commentator,this surley can't be regarded as inspired writing?
The Jews did not consider the targums to be scripture. They were used for liturgy and study.
 
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The Jews upheld the Septuagint very strongly for the first 300 years as the Word of God, but when the Christians took a hold of it, then the Jews rejected it. Then the Jews started rewriting the Septuagint in the 2nd and 3rd centuries to suit their purposes. They were "Making the word of God of none effect through [their] tradition " (Mark 7:13).

The Septuagint (LXX)
very interesting,I'll look into that,thank you
 
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[FONT=ARIAL,HELVETICA,SANS-SERIF]The Jews upheld the Septuagint very strongly for the first 300 years as the Word of God, but when the Christians took a hold of it, then the Jews rejected it. Then the Jews started rewriting the Septuagint in the 2nd and 3rd centuries to suit their purposes. They were "Making the word of God of none effect through [their] tradition " (Mark 7:13).

The Septuagint (LXX)
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They wrote versions that are not the Septuagint. I forget the names of those versions.
 

Magenta

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Well that's your opinion and u could be correct,I happen to think anyone who witnessed the life of Jesus and realised who He was would of written about it a lot sooner,almost immediately in fact,to help him and others spread the word
They were told by Jesus to spread the word themselves. Why would they not do as Jesus commanded? To suit your preferences? Hmmm. Seems to me that obeying Jesus would take precedence over how you may have preferred things been done thousands of years before you came on the scene.
 
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There are good grounds for thinking that John wrote Revelation in around 70 AD for it refers to seven 'rulers' with the sixth being alive when Revelation was written. This would suggest it was Vespasian or even Nero.

Luke almost certainly wrote his Gospel prior to 65 AD for he closes its second part (Acts) with Paul still in prison in Rome for the first time. It is almost inconceivable that he ended there if he knew that Paul had been martyred or that Jerusalem had been destroyed. He also testifies to the fact that there were many written 'lives of Jesus' at the time he was writing. These would almost certainly include both Mark and Matthew. His outline suggests that he certainly knew Mark. Thus we should date Mark, and probably Matthew, in the fifties.

Mark wrote under the influence of Peter, thus prior to 60 AD when he was with Paul

Matthews work contains much unique material, especially words of Jesus, but also shows signs of the use of oral tradition well known in the churches. Given his active ministry the Gospel may well have taken him ten years to write. which would suggest that he began writing in the forties using as a basis the sermons of Jesus he himself as a former literary tax collector which he had written down. They bear the clear mark of their Aramaic origins, although Matthew definitely wrote in Greek (it is not translation Greek which is clearly identifiable).
Very interesting indeed thank you
 
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I doubt that mate,it seems to me I get ridiculed and led down the wrong paths by a lot of people on here not u I'm glad to say! I'd just like to be able to make some sort of sence of the time scale of the gospels being written,in #38 for instance,anyway,thank you for your answers! The search continues!!!!!
By all means.... Do pursue trying to satisfy yourself about any questions you discover. I am just saying not to get discouraged when you meet the inevitable opposition here... and in a lot of other places. It is an unfortunate fact that many people have been taught that to question is somehow blasphemy, and they feel "proves" you aren't a Christian......... or something. (I have yet [in 70 years of living] to figure out how some people come up with the thinking they swear by.)
 

valiant

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Why would they study somthing that they knew had been added to by a translator and was not scripture?
Because for most of them Hebrew was an unknown language whilst they were very familiar with Aramaic. They had no means of checking the sources.