Who wrote the 4 gospels of the New Testament and when?

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I have been doing some research and it appears that the four gospels were not written by anyone who actually knew Jesus,the earliest,Mark was apparently written somewhere between 60 and 80 years after Jesus's death,Mathew between 70 and 100,Luke and John after 93yrs of His death and all in Greek,not Hebrew and not by jews. What I can't understand is why the Appostles themselves didn't actually write anything down or did they?
 
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I have been doing some research and it appears that the four gospels were not written by anyone who actually knew Jesus,the earliest,Mark was apparently written somewhere between 60 and 80 years after Jesus's death,Mathew between 70 and 100,Luke and John after 93yrs of His death and all in Greek,not Hebrew and not by jews. What I can't understand is why the Appostles themselves didn't actually write anything down or did they?
Your references are Greek. If the disciples wrote what they saw Jesus do and say, they would have written it in Hebrew or Aramaic, and then later it would have been translated to Greek by different people. Study when the Septuagint was finally compiled in AD.
 
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Your references are Greek. If the disciples wrote what they saw Jesus do and say, they would have written it in Hebrew or Aramaic, and then later it would have been translated to Greek by different people. Study when the Septuagint was finally compiled in AD.
Thank you,I will
 
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Your references are Greek. If the disciples wrote what they saw Jesus do and say, they would have written it in Hebrew or Aramaic, and then later it would have been translated to Greek by different people. Study when the Septuagint was finally compiled in AD.
There would have been no reason for the apostles to have written in Hebrew because so few people understood it. The Septuagint was written approx. 100-200 years before Christ.
 

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The teachings all originated from the same place: the Holy Spirit of God.

"But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name,
will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you."
 
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There would have been no reason for the apostles to have written in Hebrew because so few people understood it. The Septuagint was written approx. 100-200 years before Christ.
But surely the apostles were jews and spoke/wrote in Hebrew or Aramaic?
 
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Regarding #3 of this post,the Septuagint was the OT translated into Greek from the original Hebrew,I'm asking about the NT? Who were the actual authors?
Well, Luke was one of the writers and said when writing to Theophilus:

"Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught."

Luke most likely spoke to those who were of the original disciples, since he said that he had carefully investigated everything from the beginning. Luke was the one who traveled with Paul and who wrote the book of Acts as well. Mark was the son of Mary, who was related to Barnabas and was a helper of Paul. Matthew, also called Levi, was a tax collector whom Jesus called and was one of the original disciples.
And John was also an original disciple of the Lord who wrote John and Revelation.
 
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Well, Luke was one of the writers and said when writing to Theophilus:

"Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught."

Luke most likely spoke to those who were of the original disciples, since he said that he had carefully investigated everything from the beginning. Luke was the one who traveled with Paul and who wrote the book of Acts as well. Mark was the son of Mary, who was related to Barnabas and was a helper of Paul. Matthew, also called Levi, was a tax collector whom Jesus called and was one of the original disciples.
And John was also an original disciple of the Lord who wrote John and Revelation.
I disagree,John was written at least 93years after the death of Christ so was not written by John the disciple,Mathew and Luke use a massive amount of the earliest gospel,ie Mark. None of the gospels are eye witness accounts as far as I can see,I can just about belive they were handed down through the generations by word of mouth but still can't comprehend how such an important period of human history was only recorded 60-70 years at the earliest after His death? I'm still researching who the original authors were according to religious and non religiuos writers,I'm also looking to find any references to jesus from non religious commentators of a His time,like the Romans for instance,who were meticulous record keepers and surley would have mentioned a Man/movement that was causing them much concern at the time
 
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Only the religious people knew Hebrew. Common folk like the apostles spoke Aramaic and/or Greek. That's why the Targums came into existence because the population had forgotten how to speak Hebrew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targum
But, let us not forget that each of the "Targums" (not really the plural for "Targum"... LOL) was never a Translation, per se, but rather, a personalized "interpretation" by the individual Rabbis. (They even put their own names of the ones they wrote.) A little bit like a "commentary" today.
 
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Who wrote the gospels. (Figure out who, and you get a handle on when.)

Lots of modern people are trying to disprove the Bible. Not good to trust them when you already know their agenda.
 
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I disagree,John was written at least 93years after the death of Christ so was not written by John the disciple,Mathew and Luke use a massive amount of the earliest gospel,ie Mark. None of the gospels are eye witness accounts as far as I can see,I can just about belive they were handed down through the generations by word of mouth but still can't comprehend how such an important period of human history was only recorded 60-70 years at the earliest after His death? I'm still researching who the original authors were according to religious and non religiuos writers,I'm also looking to find any references to jesus from non religious commentators of a His time,like the Romans for instance,who were meticulous record keepers and surley would have mentioned a Man/movement that was causing them much concern at the time
So you already made up your mind while still researching?
 

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... I can just about believe they were handed down through the generations by word of mouth but still can't comprehend how such an important period of human history was only recorded 60-70 years at the earliest after His death?
The prevailing theory is they thought He was coming back a lot sooner than... hmmm, where are we, now? Two thousand years and counting? Makes sense to me :)

Four times in the book of Revelation, Jesus said to the churches, “I am coming soon!” (Rev 16:15; 22:7, 12, 20). It was originally meant as an encouraging word to 1st century Christians suffering by the hands of Rome and has continued to encourage Christ’s followers throughout the ages. Christians in every generation are to hold tightly to the promise that Christ will return soon.
https://ahessblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/10-things-jesus-really-said-about-his-return/

Heb 9:28 Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Here are fifteen verses where Jesus spoke of His return.

http://ipost.christianpost.com/news/15-bible-verses-that-jesus-speaks-about-his-second-coming-11226/
 
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So you already made up your mind while still researching?
Not at all,my mind is open but I'm looking for a logical explanation,not somthing made up by biased people,at the moment everything I can find says the gospels wernt written by any apostle or eye witness,I'm still looking,I'm finding some answers yo my post good,like looking up the Targum and Septuagint to see if they shed any light on this subject
 
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But, let us not forget that each of the "Targums" (not really the plural for "Targum"... LOL) was never a Translation, per se, but rather, a personalized "interpretation" by the individual Rabbis. (They even put their own names of the ones they wrote.) A little bit like a "commentary" today.
I really do think this is from whence came acceptance of the "Catholic" rule of "Let us professional priests tell you what the Scriptures REALLY mean... because you commoners can't understand any of it, anyway."
 

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Not at all,my mind is open but I'm looking for a logical explanation,not somthing made up by biased people,
Unbiased people? Where in the world would you propose to find any such creatures? :eek:

Jesus said, "Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters."
 
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But, let us not forget that each of the "Targums" (not really the plural for "Targum"... LOL) was never a Translation, per se, but rather, a personalized "interpretation" by the individual Rabbis. (They even put their own names of the ones they wrote.) A little bit like a "commentary" today.
Not exactly. They were basically translations of scripture with some additions and tweaks here and there to make scripture align with rabbinic teachings.
 
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Not exactly. They were basically translations of scripture with some additions and tweaks here and there to make scripture align with rabbinic teachings.
Yeah, pretty much today's commentaries. Except OUR boys tend to add a lot more. LOL
 
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The prevailing theory is they thought He was coming back a lot sooner than... hmmm, where are we, now? Two thousand years and counting? Makes sense to me :)

Four times in the book of Revelation, Jesus said to the churches, “I am coming soon!” (Rev 16:15; 22:7, 12, 20). It was originally meant as an encouraging word to 1st century Christians suffering by the hands of Rome and has continued to encourage Christ’s followers throughout the ages. Christians in every generation are to hold tightly to the promise that Christ will return soon.
https://ahessblog.wordpress.com/2011/05/24/10-things-jesus-really-said-about-his-return/

Heb 9:28 Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

Here are fifteen verses where Jesus spoke of His return.

http://ipost.christianpost.com/news/15-bible-verses-that-jesus-speaks-about-his-second-coming-11226/
well " I'm coming soon " could mean tommorow or in ten thousand years according to some translations of time spans in the bible!!! This is what I mean by the authors of the gospels using there own words to appeal to people of there own time,this is why I'm trying to find out who wrote the gospels and when,this is why I think double meanings and different times occurring in the same verse is just man looking for somthing to relate to in any given time,surley scripture should be easy to understand? Why would God make it so difficult? There's no reason to make it duplicitous,THOW SHALL NOT STEAL can't mean anything else can it?