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Jon4TheCross

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Mar 10:13

And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them: and his disciples rebuked those that brought them.

Mar 10:14
But when Jesus saw it, he was much displeased, and said unto them, Suffer the little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

Mar 10:15
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

Mar 10:16
And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them, and blessed them.*

Rom 1:16

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Rom 1:17
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

The actions, attitudes, thoughts, and words of Jesus Christ of Nazareth are the one and only perfect and good example of the only begotten of God. When we follow Him faithfully and without drawing back... our actions, attitudes, thoughts, and words become those of the adopted and only begotten of the Father.

There is power in practicing our actions, attitudes, thoughts, and words among brothers and sisters in the Lord. We are saved by grace...and we are given the opportunity to practice walking in Him...in the power of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Do you think it is too much to ask for every church over 600 average attendants... to each sponsor one traveler... to work every day for at least 8 hours...practicing conforming to and moving in actions, attitudes, thoughts, and words that Jesus Christ of Nazareth actually did already? Then I believe Jesus Christ of Nazareth will work among us continually in a way that eye has not seen and ear has not heard as of yet...because God is love...and love is not real love without unity.

I believe Spokane, WA will be the first city to build what some might consider to be an example of the church... the way God knew it would be...and an example that God will testify to with healing for all...both spiritually and in regards to the earthen vessel. I suppose some would call this the rebuilding of the temple...the body of Christ...and we are actually mighty close to the beginning of the third day since Jesus died and rose again...spiritually speaking.

What I have in my stewardship is something that most will not recieve without the faith of a child. When many are united with this effort it is interesting that the first benefit of many people is a thicker wall of people surrounding a center area that enlarges as more people are united. I believe that if strangers even break the threshold of such a work for God...God will let them know without a doubt that He approves of such an example.

So....Yes I am open to any suggestions on what we can do together to make what I am a steward of...something that can be remembered in Heaven...and eternal in Heaven.

I believe God gave me...an unperfected man (there is still sin in my flesh...not all of it is purged yet)... a start to what could be likened to the ark that noah made...only spiritually speaking. Like a portal to heaven... higher than this world while still in it... and only guaranteed to be continually open while unity...real unity exists in a way that God approves of.

We know God works in mysterious ways...and we know God approves of the faith of a child.

It's up to you to read the link I have given below...which is simply a typed out playable game...which I believe to be a game we can play in Heaven...for all eternity if we choose.

"Both are true", is something often true regarding God. We can play a game...but if we play this game given in the link below...in certain areas of the world... then it is likely in specific areas that specific people or groups might want or try to kill us for playing this game that does include dice.

Your Brother in Christ,
Jonathan David Winters*
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* http://1drv.ms/1Ktspqo

We need many outposts of the true kingdom of Heaven...and this is approved by God I believe...but I am open to any suggestions.......Oh...have you seen how many rules are in football, golf, basketball...and more? This is an easy game to learn, and I hope and believe we are still child like enough to recieve it...

Many have recieved this game already, so perhaps some are already working on getting an example of this going...but there's no harm in posting a reminder.

Also...Cast the lot in the lap and its every decision is from the Lord...so...I believe God will testify through many ways...including the dice...concerning which ambassadors are worth following...cause that is part of this game as well.

If you want to change it...make money off of it...or whatever...Know that God is watching and do something approved by God.
 
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Jon4TheCross

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Pro 16:32
He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city.

Pro 16:33
The lot is cast into the lap; but the whole disposing thereof is of the LORD.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Jesus Christ of Nazareth knew that the best way for disciples to learn how to walk was and is still simply...to follow Him. This game provides people with that option according to the measure of faith given to us...to follow Christ in us...the adopted savior and annointed ones.

The world knows that Christians are not united according to the perspective of the flesh...which is the perspective of most of the world.

One sponsored traveler per church working with other sponsored travelers from other churches would show them that we can indeed be united together in one work.

We do always have a choice for now...and I hope we can do something together...like playing this game/working in this way of training/building many outposts/united groups with people as the wall...a living wall/flowing river.

I hope you can visualize what it looks like with even 1000 travelers.
 
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What is this silliness of a church "hiring" a specific person to do these things?

That's not what Jesus told us to do.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Love beareth, believeth, hopeth, and endureth all things. Love never fails. (Paraphrase ;)

I hope you can endure reading the small game long enough to understand it...or help me with the order of rules...or whatever. It is what it is for now.
The possibilities and variables that are possible is quite staggering...

I personally like the idea of a circle track as the big version of the game...with a center...and the small version of 12 as more of a mobile center...and I suppose trainees would be inside the circle of the 12 while practicing walking in enemy territory...and telling people the truth...
We are playing a game...Would you like to learn?

The comment is true that the typed out words are considered to be a game, and anyone reading it would probably classify it as a game of rules.

I do believe that part of the stradegy was clearly told us...
Sly as a serpent, and harmless as a dove.

Ok. The next post is the first of two passages I will point out.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Isa 55:1

Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

Isa 55:2
Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

Isa 55:3
Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

Isa 55:4
Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

Isa 55:5
Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

Isa 55:6

Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

Isa 55:7
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isa 55:8

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

Isa 55:9
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Isa 55:10
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

Isa 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Isa 55:12
For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

Isa 55:13
Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the LORD for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Isa 58:1

Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

Isa 58:2
Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.

Isa 58:3
Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.

Isa 58:4
Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

Isa 58:5
Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?

Isa 58:6

Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Isa 58:7
Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

Isa 58:8
Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.

Isa 58:9
Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

Isa 58:10
And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:

Isa 58:11
And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

Isa 58:12
And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

Isa 58:13

If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
 

Jon4TheCross

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Isa 58:14
Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
 

Blain

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I don't know anything about a game but I wanted to put my two cents about jesus. Jesus truly is the most amazing person I have ever met he is the hero of this story and only he could have done what he did being both God and human he was the only one who was not just qualified but strong enough to do what he did. I can't even begin to imagine what it felt like to be pure and holy then become sin and have your own father unable to look at you and yet be strong enough to say father forgive them.

I tell you I would give up all my limbs and even m y eye sight to spend just one day sitting at Jesus feet and learn from him directly, I can guarantee I would come back and never be the same.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Thanks Blain. I am so glad to have been given the ability to be crucified unto the world...and the world crucified unto me...as Paul wrote.

It is sooo true...Those without access to the holiest of all are robbing from God if they do not give 10 percent to the stewardship of those who give not a percentage.

This game encourages giving all...and is like a baby step...like a training camp.
 

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Thanks Blain. I am so glad to have been given the ability to be crucified unto the world...and the world crucified unto me...as Paul wrote.

It is sooo true...Those without access to the holiest of all are robbing from God if they do not give 10 percent to the stewardship of those who give not a percentage.

This game encourages giving all...and is like a baby step...like a training camp.
what? robbing God for not giving 10 percent? God is far more interested in the heart behind the giving than the actual amount but even so when I do give money it is usually more than expected but I do it simply because I love to give but I always consider the motive behind my giving and that is what God really pays attention to
 

Jon4TheCross

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Rev 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Rev 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

Rev 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Rev 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Rev 3:22
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

This game makes it really easy for those fortunate enough to play it...to clothe themselves with only actions, attitudes, thoughts, and words that are found in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Blain,
Thanks for replying. I was just trying to point out that the gospel of Jesus Christ includes giving everything because our reward is God, and we are here to share Him freely. This is why God told those without access to the holiest of all to pay 10% to those with access to the holiest of all, because it's for their own good. The rest of the 90% is their reward to do with what they want...or whatever % they keep for themselves. This is not simply about money. God asked us to buy of Him gold tried in the fire...so we would be rich, and white rainment, and to annoint our eyes with eye salve.

I believe time is the currency with buying power concerning God...and this game makes it easy for churches all over the world to be united in using time to buy gold tried in the fire.
 

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What is this silliness of a church "hiring" a specific person to do these things?
I don't know anything about a game
Jon's been tossing around this idea he has for a sort of real-life 'game' that involves walking around doing Christian service and evangelizing for a long time now. it's sort of hard to wrap your head around his idea but it's worth the time to try to understand what he's on about; i dig it.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Zec 4:1

And the angel that talked with me came again, and waked me, as a man that is wakened out of his sleep,

Zec 4:2
And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof:

Zec 4:3
And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.

Zec 4:4
So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord?

Zec 4:5
Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

Zec 4:6
Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Zec 4:7
Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.

Zec 4:8

Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

Zec 4:9
The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.

Zec 4:10
For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Zec 4:11

Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

Zec 4:12
And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

Zec 4:13
And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

Zec 4:14
Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.


God said... not by might or power...but by my spirit says the Lord.

Unity in both spirit and the work of the earthen vessel is part of the Holy Spirit of God. This game makes unity much easier to get into. Seriously...all a church has to do is sponsor one traveler to be united at the smallest level.
 
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Jon's been tossing around this idea he has for a sort of real-life 'game' that involves walking around doing Christian service and evangelizing for a long time now. it's sort of hard to wrap your head around his idea but it's worth the time to try to understand what he's on about; i dig it.
It is? I read most of the documentation awhile back and was more confused than when I began reading it!
 

Jon4TheCross

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Jon's been tossing around this idea he has for a sort of real-life 'game' that involves walking around doing Christian service and evangelizing for a long time now. it's sort of hard to wrap your head around his idea but it's worth the time to try to understand what he's on about; i dig it.
Thanks for the word of encouragement. I too am still trying to understand and wrap my mind around it. :)

It will happen I believe...cause I believe what the game will look like can be considered a small portion of love in action 24/7...if theres enough people eventually to work shifts for the whole time.

Anyhow...it's real easy to go out to the woods and be there with just me and God and the surroundings of the wilderness...but I am trying to exercise self control and not be selfish. Either way...I will be practicing all things common with God shortly...cause that is how the high priesthood with access to the holiest of all should function.

I am not judging any eternal judgement...just saying we have left our first love and the first works for a time...most of us.

I love you all...gotta sign off for the night.
 

Jon4TheCross

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What is this silliness of a church "hiring" a specific person to do these things?

That's not what Jesus told us to do.

I won't say I am sorry...cause you need to be corrected.

Mat 20:6
And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?

Mat 20:7
They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.

Mat 20:8
So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.

Mat 20:9
And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.

Mat 20:10
But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Well...my ride to a temporary job did not arrive in time...so...I don't need to sign off for the night. :)
 

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So I am trying to understand this game, is it to basically go out and show love and help those in need and to give our time to God and to others? Because if I understand this correctly this isn't a game to me it's my delight and joy
 
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Jesus in no longer the only begotten Son of God. He is now referred to as the first born. All who are born again are sons of God and joint heirs with Christ. Christianity's main problem is that Christians don't know who they are because of the new birth and thus still act like dead men.

I don't have a problem with your game except that it seems to be born of the assumption that one should play at being like Jesus. In reality, all who are born again are born into his image. We are one with Christ. I feel that if Christians just learn who we are because of the new birth ,then your game would be the living reality of every Christian every day.