New covenant

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gotime

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Deu 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deu 30:7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
Deu 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day.

This is the new covenant but notice that the new covenant involves obeying the commandments that he gave them in that day.

Deu 30:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
Deu 30:12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deu 30:13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Deu 30:14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

Paul derives his argument for righteousness by faith from here as it is written:

Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

The promise of God to circumcise our hearts the circumcision of faith which causes us to obey the commandments that God gave Israel.
 

gotime

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here again we see the new covenant:

Eze 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
Eze 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Again the promise is concerning the heart and how God will give us a new heart/circumcise the heart and The holy Spirit of promise will cause us to walk in Gods statutes and judgments. Again the result is obedience by faith in the work of God.

Notice God does all the work so it is ours by faith in the promise. And again the only statutes this could be are the ones already given to Israel.
 

gotime

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Here of course is the most popularly used reference to the new covenant:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

This was prophesied by Jeremiah as it is written:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

God would again do something with the heart, He would write his law on the heart thus causing us to keep his law by his grace. notice it is directly linked to knowing Him.

John said it like this:

1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
 

gotime

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The new covenant experience is not just about Justification but also sanctification as it is written:

Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Heb 10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

This is the purpose Jesus came to achieve as it is written:

Heb 13:12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Jesus not only died to reconcile us but also to make us holy by his blood by faith in His promises.
 
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Of course, Jesus disciples/the Jerusalem church did not ask gentile convert to follow all the law given to Israel did they(Acts15)
 

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Could you please list all the commandments we are to keep?

Gotime wrote...The promise of God to circumcise our hearts the circumcision of faith which causes us to obey the commandments that God gave Israel.
 
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gotime

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Of course, Jesus disciples/the Jerusalem church did not ask gentile convert to follow all the law given to Israel did they(Acts15)
Well naturally as the law of the Old covenant found its fulfillment in Christ.
 
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Must this law also be followed?

Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard Lev 19:27
 

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All you have to do is read it and see.
Tell us all the commandments given to Israel at Sinai that YOU keep.

There are 613.

Your post should be a long one, but we'll wait :).

So interested to find out how you do sacrifices and punish Sabbath-breakers . . .

-JGIG
 
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What do the scriptures say?
I refer you to the final paragraph of your first post
The scriptures I have brought forth state laws given to israel
Why are you reluctant to answer my questions concerning them? This is your thread
 

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"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

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"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?"

Jesus replied:
"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
 

gotime

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I refer you to the final paragraph of your first post
The scriptures I have brought forth state laws given to israel
Why are you reluctant to answer my questions concerning them? This is your thread
It is not that I am reluctant but uninterested in answering questions you know the answer to.
 
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First
Commandment
Matthew 4:10; Luke 4:8; Revelation 14:7


Second
Commandment
Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-20; Ephesians 5:5


Third
Commandment
Matthew 5:33-37; 1 Timothy 6:1; James 2:7


Fourth
Commandment
Luke 4:16; 23:55-56; Acts 17:1-2; 18:4; Hebrews 4:9; 1 John 2:6


Fifth
Commandment
Matthew 15:4-9; 19:19; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29-30; Ephesians 6:1-3


Sixth
Commandment
Matthew 5:21-22; 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 1:29-30; 13:9


Seventh
Commandment
Matthew 5:27-28; 19:18; Mark 10:11-12, 19; Luke 16:18; 18:20; Romans 7:2-3; 13:9


Eighth
Commandment
Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Peter 4:15; Revelation 9:21


Ninth
Commandment
Matthew 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Acts 5:3-4; Romans 13:9; Ephesians 4:25


10th
Commandment
Luke 12:15; Romans 1:29; 7:7; 13:9; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21; Ephesians 5:3, 5
 
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It is not that I am reluctant but uninterested in answering questions you know the answer to.
You stated the circumcision of faith causes us to obey the commandments God gave Israel
Based on that statement I produced two of them and asked you if they must be obeyed.
You refuse to answer. I cant see how far you expect to take this thread if you cannot fully state what you mean, or defend what you write
 
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How about this one:
Do not wear clothing woven by two kinds of materials lev19:19

Must the above law be kept?
I would say yes.

Romans 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Zephaniah 1:8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.

Revelation 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

With those verses in mind, (these are only a few,) what do you think mixed material means? The verse that you referenced is a shadow of the true. For the most part, everything that we learn is a "shadow." Before we can read or write, we can see words and letters, and they are a shadow of what we eventually will be able to read as we learn. As Isaiah said, "line upon line, precept upon precept."
 
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I would say yes.

Romans 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
Romans 13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

Zephaniah 1:8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.

Revelation 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

With those verses in mind, (these are only a few,) what do you think mixed material means? The verse that you referenced is a shadow of the true. For the most part, everything that we learn is a "shadow." Before we can read or write, we can see words and letters, and they are a shadow of what we eventually will be able to read as we lear
If you would say the laws I mentioned must be obeyed, I assume you must believe the Jerusalem church made a mistake in the law they asked gentile converts to follow in acts15
 
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