Why did Christ need to deliver us from under law?

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First, let's establish that Christ came to deliver the fallen human race from under law:

Gal 4:4 "When the fulness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law,5 that he might redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."

Q: Why did we need to be delivered from under law?

A: Romans 3:22,23 "There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

The glory of God is defined by Moses as God's goodness, i.e., His righteousness. See Ex 33:18,19

So all, both Jew and Gentile, have sinned and are failing to fully live (i.e., measure up) to the righteousness of Christ. That makes even believers sinners.

For sinners to be under law means death. The law brings wrath. The curse of the law is death, goodbye to life forever. That's why we needed to be delivered from under law.
 

KohenMatt

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Jesus came to bring people unto God. To deliver people from the consequences of sin and death.
I don't think Jesus came to specifically deliver people from being "under" the Law (whatever that means), but that might have been a means to an end.
 

Joidevivre

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I never felt that I was under the Law in any form having come to Christ at an early age. Mostly, I needed to be delivered from feeling abandoned, and brought into the embrace of unconditional love. I still feel free of any "law". I just want to share that love with others because of its healing nature. And I have always called it grace.

Always felt that the scripture about the law was written for the Jewish people who had been taught it all their lives.
 
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I always felt, even from a very young age, that the '10 Commandments' were my Law to
live by, as the churches that I went to taught me that I must live an honorable life, obedient,
subject to the Laws of Christ in order to be guiltless and stay out of jail,,,

I did transgress many of these Holy Laws and at one time in my life, when I disobeyed,
I landed in jail, and because of this, these Holy Laws were forever embedded into my heart,
thus, I have no desire to steal, covet, murder, commit adultery, etc....

Thank You Jesus, for writing your precious LAWS upon my heart for I will forever be true to
the Law of God....
 
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eternally-gratefull

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for the very reason the law was given.

Moses made it clear.


Deuteronomy 27:26
Cursed is the one who does not confirm all the words of this law by observing them.’ “And all the people shall say, ‘Amen!’

God was not stupid. He knew when he gave it, the only one who would ever live up to its standard (perfection) was his future son. Yet he still gave it.

Men agreed with the standard, and agreed that they should be cursed if they do not confirm and obey every word written. In which agrees with romans 1, I might add, which says men know the sin they commit is worthy of condemnation, but love doing it) So in order for mankind to be redeemed. the CURSE of the law must be removed.

So he came to remove the curse. because we all are cursed by the law. Period.
 
Oct 21, 2015
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Because you cannot meet the pass mark under the law to be righteous in Gods sight which is 100% perfect obedience
 

Grandpa

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1 Corinthians 15:56-57
[SUP]56 [/SUP]The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
[SUP]57 [/SUP]But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 3:6-9

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
 

onlinebuddy

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I can't believe you are starting the same topic all over again with the intention of putting the whole world under the law!
 
Oct 3, 2015
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I don't think Jesus came to specifically deliver people from being "under" the Law (whatever that means), ...
It doesn't matter what you think, as Christian your ideas must take a backseat. What does the Bible say? I've already given you Gal 4:4
 
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I never felt that I was under the Law in any form having come to Christ at an early age.
We come to Christ because we are sinners condemned by the law. To remain under law means death. That's a fundamental teaching.....
 
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I always felt, even from a very young age, that the '10 Commandments' were my Law to
live by.....
That's nice, but the law demands perfect, unblemished obedience. Failure in one point brings the curse. Not only this, but none of us are measuring up to its highest demands.
 
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I can't believe you are starting the same topic all over again with the intention of putting the whole world under the law!

I can't believe that you have a problem reading Paul because he is very clear:

Romans 3:9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all. For we have previously charged both Jews and Gentiles that they are all under sin. 10 As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;...19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world (not Just the Jew) may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Both Jew and Gentile stand guilty of sin under law. To remain under law means death.
 
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First, let's establish that Christ came to deliver the fallen human race from under law:

Gal 4:4 "When the fulness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law,5 that he might redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons."

Q: Why did we need to be delivered from under law?

A: Romans 3:22,23 "There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

The glory of God is defined by Moses as God's goodness, i.e., His righteousness. See Ex 33:18,19

So all, both Jew and Gentile, have sinned and are failing to fully live (i.e., measure up) to the righteousness of Christ. That makes even believers sinners.

For sinners to be under law means death. The law brings wrath. The curse of the law is death, goodbye to life forever. That's why we needed to be delivered from under law.
Because "under the law" was under the priesthood of aaron "levitical".

There had to be a change to Judah=melchizedek=David.Jesus Christ.

In galatians it says "there is no law given that could impart life."

So there is 2 reasons.
 
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Ariel82

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1 Corinthians 15:56-57
[SUP]56 [/SUP]The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
[SUP]57 [/SUP]But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 3:6-9

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
Those are some of my favorite scriptures. It shows that under the old covenant laws all are condemned. Old covenant does not promise eternal life. People are slaves to the law because they are sinners.

Jesus gives us a new covenant. No more earthly priests to get between us and God. We now have the Holy Spirit. On mount Sinai Israel reject direct communication with God and demanded that Moses act as a go between.

However even then Moses prophecies a time when God would make a new covenant where His people would accept Him in their hearts and hear from Him directly. We are now His oracles, His prophets, His people who proclaim the Gospel.. Christ died for the remission of sins and He will come again to judge the world.
 

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Rom 7:4-6 Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God. (5) For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. (6) But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.


Rom 8:2-4 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. (3) For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, (4) in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
 
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Because the law is if man sins man dies, and statistically speaking, that is 100% of mankind- so Christ had to save us from that law by fulfilling it Himself and nailing it to the cross, so that those baptized into Christ could live by the law of grace instead of the law of sin and death.

...for what the law was powerless to do, in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending His own Son to be a sin offering, therefore He condemned sin in sinful man in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.
 

onlinebuddy

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It doesn't matter what you think, as Christian your ideas must take a backseat. What does the Bible say? I've already given you Gal 4:4

I have to intervene here, because as Christian our ideas must not take a backseat, since our ideas are backed by scripture, otherwise we're not Christian.
If you read Gal 4:4 you will notice who was under the law: the "woman;" not the every man that lived or lives on earth.
 

onlinebuddy

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1 Corinthians 15:56-57
[SUP]56 [/SUP]The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
[SUP]57 [/SUP]But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

2 Corinthians 3:6-9

[SUP]6 [/SUP]Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
[SUP]8 [/SUP]How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
The sting death is what??
Ans: The sting of death is sin!!

Jesus came to deliver us from what?
Ans: from sin!

God has made us ministers of which covenant?
Ans. the new covenant or the new testament.

Of what are we not ministers?
Ans: We are not ministers of the letter (law)

Who was the minister of the Law?
Ans: Moses

What are we ministers of?
Ans: The Spirit

Why are we ministers of the Spirit, and not of the letter?
Ans: because the letter (law) kills and the Spirit gives life. We are not here to preach death, but life!

In what does God reveal his glory more, in the ministry of death or in the ministry of the Spirit?
Ans: in the ministry of the Spirit

It's sad that some of us continue to administer the law, before they even talk about the Spirit.