The Immaculate Conception Error
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If by Original Sin you are referring to the theory then it is unscriptural. But if you are referring to the fact that Adam sinned, thus the first sin or original sin you would be correct. Our primary problem is NOT the sin of Adam but its consequence.
All of the arguments surrounding the theory of Original Sin separate Christ's humanity away from man, thus making man unlike who we are. IF Christ is not really like us in all ways, then He cannot save us.
All of the arguments surrounding the theory of Original Sin separate Christ's humanity away from man, thus making man unlike who we are. IF Christ is not really like us in all ways, then He cannot save us.
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If you are speaking on original sin in the aspect that because by Adam's transgression sin entered the world, then yes !!!
But if you are trying to say we inherit and are sinful from the get go and condemned minute we are born, then you are wrong because the bible shows until a person reaches the age to know right from wrong sin is not accounted against them.
Mary's sins would not have been passed on to Christ making Him guilty of her sins, as I gave scripture from Ezekiel 18 that disproves such thinking.
But if you are trying to say we inherit and are sinful from the get go and condemned minute we are born, then you are wrong because the bible shows until a person reaches the age to know right from wrong sin is not accounted against them.
Mary's sins would not have been passed on to Christ making Him guilty of her sins, as I gave scripture from Ezekiel 18 that disproves such thinking.
again it is not what I am saying no where in the bible does it show Jesus hAD A "sinful nature". That is the point and you nor I can fully understand the "Godhead". The Sinful nature d&A is sin period . The short answer to your question is: No, Jesus did not inherit the sin nature from Adam. Jesus came to succeed where Adam failed. Jesus is called the "last Adam" (1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
and the "second man" (1 Corinthians 15:47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
. Jesus testified that He came "to seek and to save that which was lost" (Luke 19:10For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
. What was lost in Adam was to be won in Jesus Christ. However, in order to do this, he only needed to start where Adam started, not where he ended.
Much of the purpose of the virgin birth was to allow Jesus to be fully human but without the Adamic nature. Joseph was "the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ" (Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
. Joseph was not the father of Jesus. Jesus did not receive the sinful nature of Joseph. However, He was born in the natural body and in the full likeness of sinful flesh. Romans 8:3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
states, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh." He was born in the flesh, but the inner sin nature was not His nature. He was only born in the "likeness" of sinful flesh. If He had had a sin nature, John could not have said of Him, "in him is no sin" (1 John 3:5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
and Paul could not have spoken of Him as the one "who knew no sin" (2 Corinthians 5:21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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again it is not what I am saying it is what the Bible shows us
and the "second man" (1 Corinthians 15:47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
. Jesus testified that He came "to seek and to save that which was lost" (Luke 19:10For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
. What was lost in Adam was to be won in Jesus Christ. However, in order to do this, he only needed to start where Adam started, not where he ended.
Much of the purpose of the virgin birth was to allow Jesus to be fully human but without the Adamic nature. Joseph was "the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ" (Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
. Joseph was not the father of Jesus. Jesus did not receive the sinful nature of Joseph. However, He was born in the natural body and in the full likeness of sinful flesh. Romans 8:3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
states, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh." He was born in the flesh, but the inner sin nature was not His nature. He was only born in the "likeness" of sinful flesh. If He had had a sin nature, John could not have said of Him, "in him is no sin" (1 John 3:5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
and Paul could not have spoken of Him as the one "who knew no sin" (2 Corinthians 5:21For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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again it is not what I am saying it is what the Bible shows us
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Ps 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
Note, David did not say we are born guilty of transgression. Guilt involves volition. So you are right about the age of accountability.
So while we are not born guilty, we are born sinners. That's because we are born with the flesh and mind in harmony. See Eph 2:3
Christ was born spiritually alive, which simply means His mind was never in harmony with our nature that He assumed at the incarnation. Therefore He was not born a sinner as we are.
Let me answer my own question:
Psalm 51:5. David was “shapen in iniquity” from his very birth. This was his spiritual condition since physically he was handsome [1 Samuel 16:12]. The primary meaning of iniquity is not an act but a condition. As a result of the fall, man by very nature is spiritually “bent,” so that the driving force of his very nature is love of self. Paul defines it as “the law of sin and death” [Romans 7:23; 8:2]. It is this condition that is the basis of all our sinning, and which makes us slaves to sin [Romans 3:9-12; 7:14].
