New age

[shad]

I am simply warning other Christians to beware of false teachings no matter where they come from. Billy Graham has the same offer as all of us to repent, it would be better if he made a public apology since he made those false claims on a public stage. That way those that are not founded strongly in God's word are no longer deceived by this man.

When you judge God's servant, another brother and criticize a fruitful servant of God you are violating, teaching and practicing false doctrine and you do not even know that. Would you like me to go into those doctrines, I will and I know them all because I was taught and learned them the way they should be learned. With what you have done with Billy Graham you have violated over (30) doctrines. Are you going to publically come on this site and repent of those violations? If you can not be entreated with the truth then shame on you for being wreckless and careless with your tongue and causing others to take on your spirit of judging God's servant.

 

[Francesca]

Francesca we were typing our messages at the same time, what a coincidence hey guys? Francesca, I did much seeking before I found the Lord I also had experience with things like you speak of but not as being the meduim just the recipiant. There is nothing that compares to the moment of salvation in Christ Jesus. Thats all I can give you girl. I now reject those things of my past as I see them in a different light altogether. The Lord bless you as you seek if indeed you are here to seek. You seem respectful in your post and I appreciate that. Just know that we absolutely will not allow the promoting of anything occult in this forum. I appreciate you here as I have a beautiful cousin who is pagen as well and the most amazing lovely girl I know & I continue in prayer for her to receive the Lord. Her immediate family are all wonderful Christians & I feel sometimes she is being used against them. As you are well aware there is a spiritual realm and most Christians readily acknowledge this. If it is not of Christ my opinion is it is of the evil one who seeks to deceive and destroy.

Just like to say a very big thank you for the respect as I'm showing you all in here.

to answer your question, yes I'm seeking something that's real and not fake. I'm against promoting things as well, it's messed my life up, I don't want to be responsible for doing it to other's if you know what I mean, I want to make that perfectly clear everyone, keep well away from it, you end up damaged take it from someone who's lived the life and can tell their story.

I do have questions, a lovely guy spoke to me yesterday in the chatroom and all afternoon I've been searching the scriptures, yes I've been reading the bible, shock horror what will they think of next lol.
It's really helped me to understand a bit more of where I am and where I should be, yes it's going to take some time to sort all the mess out but I'm looking towards a faith in something that I don't quite understand yet but I'm getting there with a little bit of help and patience, so I hope you've got both lol.

this is also why I asked the mods to keep an eye on this thread so nothing will enter in so no one will be tempted in anyway and please let me know if I say anything wrong, I'd rather be on the right side than anything else.
once again thank you
francesca

 

[Francesca]

Hello Frenchesa , could you please explain what psychic surgury is and swedish massage , and hopi candling, thankyou. Do you do the one where you dig into the flesh to perform surgury with only your bare finger/hands? That would be cool.

Please mods if I say anything wrong let me know and I'll change it.

right the psychic surgery is in the spiritual sense, you do the healing in a way which sounds crazy but I'll do my best lol.

Swedish massage is just a term they use for doing most massages you get at places in health spa's in the UK, not sure what you call them in the states but it's just a normal body massage

Hopi Candling is a hollow tube made of bees wax and linen made to look in the shape of a candle, not the thick ones you can buy in most shops but it's about 12 inches long and about half a centimetre wide. You put it in the ear and light it and it burns till you get to the bottom of the candle and it works like a chimney effect where the heat is drawn down into the ear and it draws up the ear wax and it's suppose to help it, the only problem with this is this type of therapy started by the native american indians as it was a shamanic ritual, if anyone knows about the spiritual side of shamanism it's a bit on the pagan side in some respects, so if your a christian don't touch this as it goes against your faith and I really hope you listen as this is how I trained in it and I can prove the history of how it's used so please christians listen stay away from it.

With psychic surgery, some people use the hands to get into the body but you can also use spiritual eyes to see inside. some use the body in the form of a xray machine and can use this to treat and also heal the various ills a body can have.
As I've said before if your a christian, stay away from this OK.
You also have to open up your psychic side to see this, so your messing with stuff you don't really understand so get proper advice if your tempted cos you'll end up worse than before, I don't mean to scare you but would you rather have the truth or someone who's going to sugar coat it. I hope I'm not offending anyone but I want to be honest in here and you deserve the truth.
Just keep away from what you don't understand and get help if you've had this.

 

[MahogonySnail]

Francesa what's your opinion on the spiritual aspects of yoga?

 

[miktre]

When you judge God's servant, another brother and criticize a fruitful servant of God you are violating, teaching and practicing false doctrine and you do not even know that. Would you like me to go into those doctrines, I will and I know them all because I was taught and learned them the way they should be learned. With what you have done with Billy Graham you have violated over (30) doctrines. Are you going to publically come on this site and repent of those violations? If you can not be entreated with the truth then shame on you for being wreckless and careless with your tongue and causing others to take on your spirit of judging God's servant.

I already gave you the scripture saying we need to expose evil. That goes for evil doctrines also no matter who teaches them. You will have to twist scriptures to put me in violation of them. All I did was expose his new age teachings. I sure you violated more than 30 with your childish name calling in the rapture thread.

 

[Francesca]

Francesa what's your opinion on the spiritual aspects of yoga?

Here goes,

I hope you mods will forgive what I might say but I'm trying to be honest so you might be able to help someone in having the right knowledge.

My friend is from India and he teaches meditation with the yoga, you have to open yourself up to doing a guided meditation so you are able to travel in a sense that's very simular to hypnotism. You also do exersises to help you open up in a spiritual sense where it's not of God but other things that can harm your walk with him.He also uses a technique to open up the psychic centre which is on the forehead so you can imagime what damage your doing to yourself when you go down this path, expect yourself to get into the music which is trace state and also everything else.
this is a no no to anyone within the christian faith.

I'd also like to mention a book that you might be interested in as I got it so I couldn't be blamed if I treated any christians that might come to me.

Alternative medicine The christian Handbook It's written by Donal O Mathuna Ph.D & Walt Larimore M.D

I've found it to be very useful as a guide to help anyone with questions on that side, not all people in the new age are out to get the christians lol. I've been thinking of both sides and didn't want to be responsible for their walk.


this book has been written with the help of the Christian Medical Association and it's supposed to be medically reliable and biblically sound so I hope that you get to read it as it's worth it.

I also have a good book called New Age Medicine A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE OH HOLISTIC HEALTH


BY PAUL C REISSER, M.D. TERI K. REISSER jOHN WELDON

so you can tell I've been researching for a while but not done anything about it yet lol.

 

[miktre]

17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
19For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.

 

[Pete_Martinez]

Francesa what's your opinion on the spiritual aspects of yoga?

I remember hearing about Yogis getting angry that Christians were incorporating their worship into "Christian" services. There is more to yoga than feeling good.

 

[imoss]

I'd also like to mention a book that you might be interested in as I got it so I couldn't be blamed if I treated any christians that might come to me.

Alternative medicine The christian Handbook It's written by Donal O Mathuna Ph.D & Walt Larimore M.D

I've found it to be very useful as a guide to help anyone with questions on that side, not all people in the new age are out to get the christians lol. I've been thinking of both sides and didn't want to be responsible for their walk.

I'm very interested in your responsibility to your walk. You dont want to be guilty of causing one to stumble in their Christian walk so if what you are doing is well and good why would you be guilty? Just curious, not accusing. I see you as one who possibly is considerate of all people in all paths and thats great dont get me wrong. My thought is on your very salvation. You can in no way understand what happens the moment you receive Jesus as Lord and savior as you have not yet experienced this. I do pray this for you & I pray this for your children if you have children. I think you need to spend some time in prayer & in the book of John (this gives a great account of Christ) pray for understanding pray to be lead to the truth in these matters and pray for God to lead you to the place where you will receive Jesus if you make that decision. Be responsible for your own walk and at one point b4 we are done here you will choose to receive or reject. The choice is absolutely yours & you will remember these words that you've read on here. I pray it wont be with regret. I have no motivation... no financial motivation, no personal ego motivation, what motivates me since I received the Lord and was washed clean white as snow by Jesus Christ, my motivation is that every single soul that I encounter experience the rebirth of the spirit that occurs when you receive Jesus as Lord and savior.

 

[QuestionTime]

Heh, he's dressed like a Jedi XD

This man has lived a very comfortable life being a prophet of the false Christ. Prophets of the real Christ don't live so comfortably:

Matt 3:
4And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.

Quest

 

[mpaper345]

That is what happened to the Vatican and why so many people in the Vatican are speaking from a New Age perspective because it has been infiltrated.It has been infiltrated on purpose to change it from within.They are in the Cardinal positions that elect the Pope and they will choose a Pope of their choosing to push it further in to New Age religion.

Eventually a lot of Catholics are going to break away from the Vatican when their doctrines change dramatically that they can see more.

Matt

 

[Grey]

Yeah... this actually seems like a big threat to Christianity.