Faith cometh by hearing.

[DiscipleDave]

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Please notice it does not say Faith cometh by reading, and reading the Word of God. i am not saying or teaching that a person Faith can't grow by reading.

What i am saying is there is power in the spoken Word of God. Every single Christian should get the Bible on their phones, ipod, or whatever device they have, so as to be able to HEAR the Word of God.

my favorite is the KJV MP3 format by Alexander Scourby

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Seriously Everyone should get an audio version of the Bible, you will be amazed what the Holy Ghost will teach you by HEARING the Word of God.

Disclaimer: i am not affiliated with any of the above sites, i googled "Bible mp3 Alexander Scourby" And these were some of the results.

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[seed_time_harvest]

Yes hearing the word meaning understanding.
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Mattew 13:17-20
King James Version(kJV)

17.)For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

18.)Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

19.)When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20.)But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
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I use the old King James Bible Online.

 

[Brother_Don]

1st hear, 2nd believe, 3rd do. Hearing is the same as believing(faith) to do what Jesus says.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Please notice it does not say Faith cometh by reading, and reading the Word of God. i am not saying or teaching that a person Faith can't grow by reading.

Reading, hearing, little difference. When Paul wrote that, few people had bibles, so most were dependent on having scripture read to them.

Even when we read scripture, the holy spirit will recite to us what we have read.

But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name—that one will teach you all [things], and will remind you of everything that I said to you. John 14:26​

But don't get me wrong. I'm a big advocate for open reading of scripture. It's good to train the ear to listen because hearing (as contrasted with just thinking) is a big part of obedience.

 

[FreeNChrist]

All those poor deaf folks who can never have faith, what a shame

 

[oldthennew]

Hope should always reign supreme, as well as Faith....

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Faith is a gift, and so is hearing the words of God. For not all have ears to hear what the Spirit is saying, or a heart to perceive, nor eyes to see the spiritual things of God.

Deuteronomy 29:4
Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.

Proverbs 20:12
The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the Lord hath made even both of them.

The ears also have to be circumcised by the Lord so one can hear what the Spirit is saying.

Jeremiah 6:10
To whom shall I speak, and give warning, that they may hear? behold, their ear is uncircumcised, and they cannot hearken: behold, the word of the Lord is unto them a reproach; they have no delight in it.

Acts 7:51
Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

 

[Blain]

Also consider that there is another type of hearing the word of God. The spiritual heart of a believer is fascinating, the heart can see what our physical eyes can't and it can hear what our ears cannot and it reach what our hands cannot. If one has the ears to hear God it isn't with our physical ears most of the time it's the ears of our hearts. The word of God is everywhere it's in written form it's in audio form and it's from the lips of fellow believers I have even been influence by God from movies and t.v. shows that seemingly have nothing to do with him.

My heart hears his words more than anything

 

[Grandpa]

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

This is a very profound statement. Its actually saying at least two separate things.

John 1:10 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Its one thing to hear someone recite the bible. Their is power in that for believers. It is quite a different thing to hear the Word of God.

John 10:26-28
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

 

[Grace777x70]

Hearing that brings faith is also when we speak out loud what God says happened to us in Christ. declare what God says about us because we are in Christ!

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Please notice it does not say Faith cometh by reading, and reading the Word of God. i am not saying or teaching that a person Faith can't grow by reading.

What i am saying is there is power in the spoken Word of God. Every single Christian should get the Bible on their phones, ipod, or whatever device they have, so as to be able to HEAR the Word of God.

my favorite is the KJV MP3 format by Alexander Scourby

Top 50 Scourby-Mp3-Sale - UpTo 70% Off Scourby-Mp3-Sale, New Models - Compare Scourby-Mp3-Sale Cheaper prices - Compare99.com

KJV Complete Bible On MP3 (DVD +3 CD) CD : Scourby Alexander | NestLearning.com

Alexander Scourby | Nest Entertainment Nest Learning

KJV Complete Bible on DVD: Narrated By: Alexander Scourby By: Narrated by Alexander Scourby: 9781932556292 - Christianbook.com

Seriously Everyone should get an audio version of the Bible, you will be amazed what the Holy Ghost will teach you by HEARING the Word of God.

Disclaimer: i am not affiliated with any of the above sites, i googled "Bible mp3 Alexander Scourby" And these were some of the results.

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[Grace777x70]

Well said!

I noticed that most translations of the bible now say.. "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ"

When I checked it out..they said most manuscripts have Christ instead of God ( although you really can't have one without the other )

But there is a difference when it comes to our thoughts about God and Christ. People have different concepts of "God".

I noticed that Paul said in the last days people would be against Christ not God ( ..Because I think everyone has a different concept of God )

Word of Christ is in line with Paul's admonition :

Colossians 3:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

This is a very profound statement. Its actually saying at least two separate things.

John 1:10 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Its one thing to hear someone recite the bible. Their is power in that for believers. It is quite a different thing to hear the Word of God.

John 10:26-28
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

 

[Willie-T]

Well said!

I noticed that most translations of the bible now say.. "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ"

When I checked it out..they said most manuscripts have Christ instead of God ( although you really can't have one without the other )

But there is a difference when it comes to our thoughts about God and Christ. People have different concepts of "God".

I noticed that Paul said in the last days people would be against Christ not God ( ..Because I think everyone has a different concept of God )

Word of Christ is in line with Paul's admonition :

Colossians 3:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you, with all wisdom teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

I have been deliberately avoiding mentioning just this point. But, I think it means a lot.

Also........ That sentence is divided. And I think, for a reason.

As history has proven so infamously, numerous times, people WILL believe what they are told repeatedly. Therefore, it is important to know that the Bible told us we need to be listening to the right words. In this case, the words of Christ.

The "word of God" tells us many times, "Kill a cow, and be saved from your sins." And, "Kill your enemies."

The "words of Christ" lead us in a much different direction..... one that is often just the opposite of the ways we have interpreted "God's word."

Something about which to give serious consideration.

 

[Grace777x70]

Amen brother!

Whatever view of God we get from reading the Old Testament alone - it might not be in line with what Jesus's view was.

Jesus said no one knows the Father but Jesus Himself.

Hebrews says Jesus is the exact representation of the Father. Look at Jesus and you will see God viewed through the eyes of grace and love.

We need all scripture in the old testament to be viewed through the "lens" of the New Covenant and the finished work of Jesus on our behalf.

I have been deliberately avoiding mentioning just this point. But, I think it means a lot.

Also........ That sentence is divided. And I think, for a reason.

As history has proven so infamously, numerous times, people WILL believe what they are told repeatedly. Therefore, it is important to know that the Bible told us we need to be listening to the right words. In this case, the words of Christ.

The "word of God" tells us many times, "Kill a cow, and be saved from your sins." And, "Kill your enemies."

The "words of Christ" lead us in a much different direction..... one that is often just the opposite of the ways we have interpreted "God's word."

Something about which to give serious consideration.

 

[DiscipleDave]

Yes hearing the word meaning understanding.

Hearing means "Hearing" Understanding comes from that which you hear or read.

Mattew 13:17-20
King James Version(kJV)

17.)For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Hearing with the ears.

18.)Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.

Hearing with the ears.

19.)When any one heareth (with the ears) the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not (what he/she hears with the ears) , then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20.)But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth (with the ears) the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;

In order for one to be able to understand or not understand, they must first HEAR it.

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[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

Rom_10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Please notice it does not say Faith cometh by reading, and reading the Word of God. i am not saying or teaching that a person Faith can't grow by reading.

Reading, hearing, little difference.

This is what people say, who have never listened to the Bible on cassette, CD, Mp3, or what have you. There is a difference. There is power in hearing the Word of God. When a person reads the Word of God they are not hearing it. i am not saying you can't learn the Truth from reading only, what i am saying it you can learn a lot more by hearing it.

When Paul wrote that, few people had bibles, so most were dependent on having scripture read to them.

True, and how did most people learn? By hearing it from others.

But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name—that one will teach you all [things], and will remind you of everything that I said to you. John 14:26

Please listen to what the verse just said. The Holy Ghost would help them to remember all that they HEARD from Jesus.

But don't get me wrong. I'm a big advocate for open reading of scripture. It's good to train the ear to listen because hearing (as contrasted with just thinking) is a big part of obedience.

What Saves a person, is very rarely what they read. Most people are Saved because of what they heard. All i am suggesting, is if a person really wants to open their eyes to the TRUTH, that reading is usually not enough, (not saying it can't be, only saying it usually isn't) Everyone if they Truly desire to grow in the TRUTH, should get an audible Bible and listen to it.

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[DiscipleDave]

All those poor deaf folks who can never have faith, what a shame

Who told you they could never have Faith? Or are you just being mean and sarcastic?

Nobody has said a person can't get Faith by reading only, if you would have read carefully, you would not have assumed that is what was said. Faith cometh by hearing the Word of God, this is TRUE. That does not mean Faith can't possibly come by another means. You do error thinking that is what was being said.

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[Jon4TheCross]

Hearing a language is not limited to the sound entering the ears of this earthen vessels.

Body language can manifest the Word of God as well in this earthen vessel.

Jesus commanded us to watch as well, and that is a form of hearing as well through vision. The Word of God is light as well as water and food, and light has a sound. Have you ever stuck a microphone next to a candle and listened as you light it up and it burns?

Hear, O Israel is the first part of the first and greatest command.

 

[Jon4TheCross]

When a person reads...even to themselves...they are hearing a voice and language.
1 Corinthians 14:9-11King James Version (KJV)

9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

All those poor deaf folks who can never have faith, what a shame

How do they get faith?

 

[Willie-T]

How do they get faith?

If we insist on getting hung up on "literality" and reading the Bible "at face value", I guess they don't.