What was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

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Grace777x70

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I remember when I first read about this tree in the garden that started this whole mess with humanity. I thought.."What is wrong with knowing good?..I mean..evil everyone knows that...well..maybe not everyone "

We that eat of the "good "... look at people that have the "evil" and say...that is bad...but the reality is that both the good and evil are the same fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil! The "good" is just a different branch of the "evil",...but we are still eating from the same tree...

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is still around in this earth. There is also a tree of Life!! :D

have a look at this video teaching ...it'll bless you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNUH3UREOM
 
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the give way , Gods way leading to life.
the get way, Satans way leading to death.
 
Jon4TheCross

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I do know that there are two five letter words which can be at the root of trees. TRUST.......DOUBT
 
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Jon4TheCross said:
I do know that there are two five letter words which can be at the root of trees. TRUST.......DOUBT
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Sometimes I see potential parables in what I type or write. One of those words starts and ends with a T. One starts with a D and ends with a T. When you do lowercase...one starts with a cross and ends with a cross...and one starts with a D and ends with a cross.
trust.....doubt.

In the Acts of Peter (not in the Bible)...it is written that the upright beam of the cross is the Word of God...the horizontal is the sound thereof...and the nail that binds them together is the repentance of man.
Matthew 16:23-25King James Version (KJV)

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
 
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It appears that apart from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve lived in innocency and lost it with the entrance of that knowledge....

Gen 3:7-8 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths. (8) And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.

With the Knowledge came the guilt.
 
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I noticed that the Lord still came down to walk with them after they sinned. They hid themselves from God because of the guilt and condemnation. Sin affects our minds and causes us to hide from God which is why we need to know about the "no condemnation in Christ". God didn't separate Himself from them which is a commonly taught idea. He even came to Cain and Abel after the garden was cut off from them in case they ate from the tree of Life. He didn't want to leave them in that state.

Another thing that struck me was that God said "..who told you that you were naked?" Condemnation has a "voice" that speaks to us and accuses us. The enemy is called the accuser of the brethren.

Personally I believe this is why the Lord does not condemn us but gives us acceptance grace first ..then with the knowledge of this....we have His empowering grace in our lives....to go and sin no more.

just some random thoughts..


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It appears that apart from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve lived in innocency and lost it with the entrance of that knowledge....

Gen 3:7-8 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths. (8) And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
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... He even came to Cain and Abel after the garden was cut off from them in case they ate from the tree of Life.
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The Tree of Life was barred from them, and protected so they could not eat of it.

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. Gen 3:24
 
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Jesus said, "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener."
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"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you,
you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
 
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Amen!

In His great love for us He didn't want us to stay in the condition of knowing good and evil. He wants us to live by the Life of Christ who is our tree of life!


Magenta said:
The Tree of Life was barred from them, and protected so they could not eat of it.

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. Gen 3:24
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Jon4TheCross said:
Sometimes I see potential parables in what I type or write. One of those words starts and ends with a T. One starts with a D and ends with a T. When you do lowercase...one starts with a cross and ends with a cross...and one starts with a D and ends with a cross.
trust.....doubt.

In the Acts of Peter (not in the Bible)...it is written that the upright beam of the cross is the Word of God...the horizontal is the sound thereof...and the nail that binds them together is the repentance of man.
Matthew 16:23-25King James Version (KJV)

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
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Also...I just noticed.
trust if numbered by the letters in order according to the English language is...
20...18...21...19...20
Both beginning and ending numbers in the first and last numbers are quite different.
2 can be divided...which is first, 0 cannot be divided which is last.
In the last number...the 2 is first again...and the 0 last again.
In regards to the first and last letters of trust, the first is last and the last is first.

I have not thought about the parable in the other numbers yet concerning trust...but they are all 2 digit letters.


doubt

04...15...21...02...20

Anyone wanna try to interpret those numbers? I will ponder it.
 
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The conscience is a product of the fruit of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It's where "morality" comes from....of course everyone seems to have their own concept of morality. Adam and Eve had no conscience before they ate of the tree.
 
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Magenta said:
The Tree of Life was barred from them, and protected so they could not eat of it.

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubim, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. Gen 3:24
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Man being Adam and Eve, not Cain and Abel. I don't know where Grace 'found' that information.
 
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Letters are part of The WORD Of GOD as well, and they too can have no beginning nor ending as well.
Do you not simply looooove to read His words? I do.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
I remember when I first read about this tree in the garden that started this whole mess with humanity. I thought.."What is wrong with knowing good?..I mean..evil everyone knows that...well..maybe not everyone "

We that eat of the "good "... look at people that have the "evil" and say...that is bad...but the reality is that both the good and evil are the same fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil! The "good" is just a different branch of the "evil",...but we are still eating from the same tree...

The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is still around in this earth. There is also a tree of Life!! :D

have a look at this video teaching ...it'll bless you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrNUH3UREOM
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I think you'll find the big difference is actually the choice Adam and Eve made. They chose to know good and evil apart from God. Whereas, we know this is foolishness, because you can't know good and evil apart from God, for He defines good and therefore evil is just the absence of His goodness (evil isn't a thing in and of itself - it's basically a void). So the choices were: know good and evil apart from God (be your own god) or know good and evil as defined by God (be under God's lordship).
 
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I agree with a lot of what you said....especially the part of them trying to be like God without God...good point!....altho I don't think God wanted Adam and Eve to know good or evil..but to eat of the tree of Life.



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I think you'll find the big difference is actually the choice Adam and Eve made. They chose to know good and evil apart from God. Whereas, we know this is foolishness, because you can't know good and evil apart from God, for He defines good and therefore evil is just the absence of His goodness (evil isn't a thing in and of itself - it's basically a void). So the choices were: know good and evil apart from God (be your own god) or know good and evil as defined by God (be under God's lordship).
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God came to Cain and Abel..walked with Enoch..visited Abraham..and the various other visits with mankind..my point was He is not afraid of sin..and it doesn't stop Him from coming to us. Jesus is the exact image of God the Father and He was with those dirty "sinners" a lot and it didn't phase Him.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
The conscience is a product of the fruit of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It's where "morality" comes from....of course everyone seems to have their own concept of morality. Adam and Eve had no conscience before they ate of the tree.
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Rubbish. Morality and conscience come from God. He inbuilt humanity with such things. Next you'll be saying sex was a result of the Fall.
 
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Satan had approached the woman first finding a flaw in what she had been told not to touch...God never said that so he proceeded to go for the kill, to be as God knowing good and evil...the tempting....we cannot know good and evil for we are mortal and do not know the end from the beginning...

Also the Lord guarded the tree of life so that Adam and eve would not live forever in their sin ful state...notice it was after the fall the Lord pushed them our of the garden..??????
 
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Adam and Eve had no idea they were "naked' before they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God Himself said to them.."Who told you that you were naked?"..they had no concept before that....there is something here in this...it seems there is a "voice" that spoke to Adam and Eve after they ate of the tree.....something is not right in Denmark...

just sayin'..:rolleyes:


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Rubbish. Morality and conscience come from God. He inbuilt humanity with such things. Next you'll be saying sex was a result of the Fall.
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Grace777x70 said:
God came to Cain and Abel..walked with Enoch..visited Abraham..and the various other visits with mankind..my point was He is not afraid of sin..and it doesn't stop Him from coming to us. Jesus is the exact image of God the Father and He was with those dirty "sinners" a lot and it didn't phase Him.
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I see what you're saying. While Cain and Abel didn't see God, they were still in relationship with Him (that's very true). Thanks for clarifying your earlier post. :)
 
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