Where Is Mother Teresa Now?

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Rome's poster girl, Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu (a.k.a. Mother Teresa) is a
terrible disappointment. It turns out Teresa was a remarkable actor. Her
public image bore no resemblance whatsoever to the secret life of her inner
being. Below are some quotes taken from her own private letters; and
excerpts of her statements from other sources. You be the judge: role model
or role player, believer or make-believer?

"Only pray that I keep up this joy exteriorly. I deceive people with this
weapon-- even my Sisters."

"I am grateful to for all the kindness & help you give to my Sisters and me.
My prayer, though miserably dry & frozen, is often offered for you & your
work for souls."

"When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting
emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my
very soul. How painful is this unknown pain-- I have no faith."

"I am told God loves me; and yet the reality of darkness & coldness &
emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul."

"Now Father-- since 49 or 50 this terrible sense of loss-- this untold
darkness-- this loneliness, this continual longing for God-- which gives me
pain deep down in my heart-- Darkness is such that I really do not see
neither with my mind nor with my reason-- the place of God in my soul is
blank-- There is no God in me-- when the pain of longing is so great-- I just
long & long for God-- and then it is that I feel-- He does not want me-- He is
not there-- God does not want me-- Sometimes-- I just hear my own heart
cry out-- "My God" and nothing else comes-- the torture and pain I can't
explain"

"My smile is a great cloak that hides a multitude of pains."

"The damned of Hell suffer eternal punishment because they experiment
with the loss of God. In my own soul, I feel the terrible pain of this loss. I
feel that God does not want me, that God is not God; and that He does not
really exist."

"If there be God . . please forgive me."

"Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a better Muslim
or a better Protestant. Once you've found God, it's up to you to decide how
to worship him" (Mother Teresa Touched Other Faiths, Associated Press,
9/7/97).

"We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of
Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God's
presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for
this better men-- simply better --we will be satisfied. It matters to the
individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes
that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes
into their life-- his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no
doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation."

The April 7-13, 1990, issue of Radio Times tells the story of Mother Teresa
sheltering an old Hindu priest. "She nursed him with her own hands and
helped him to die reconciled with his own gods."

Teresa was virtually 100% estranged from both God and Christ during the
whole five decades of her work in India. She experienced a darkness of the
soul unparalleled among Catholic mystics. Some say this was in preparation
for her eventual sainthood. But Paul the apostle was a "saint" and he never
once experienced Teresa's depth of abandonment. In point of fact, he never
experienced any abandonment whatsoever; nor should any other of Christ's
followers.

†. John 14:15-18 . .If you love me, keep my commandments. And I will
pray the Father, and He will give you another Counselor, that He may abide
with you forever-- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive,
because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He
dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come
to you.

†. John 14:23 . .If anyone loves me, he will keep my word; and my Father
will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

†. John 15:10 . .If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love,
just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in His love.

†. Phlp 4:5-7 . .The Lord is nearby. Do not be anxious about anything, but in
everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your concerns
to God. And the peace of God, which is beyond the intellect, will guard your
hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

†. Rom 8:15-16 . .For you have not received a spirit of slavery again to fear;
but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out; Abba!
Father! The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.

The Spirit's silence in Teresa's heart, and her utter lack of peace, were
indicative of something very gone-wrong in her association with Christ.

†. 1John 1:5-7 . .This is the message we have heard from him and declare
to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have
fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the
truth.

Father Neuner, one of Teresa's spiritual advisors commented: "Why had God
abandoned her totally? She had to lead the Sisters, initiate them into the
love of God and into a life of prayer, which had been wiped out in her own
life as she lived in total emptiness. Had she become a shameful hypocrite
who spoke to others about the divine mysteries which had totally vanished
from her own heart?"

All evidence points to the obvious conclusion that Teresa was the most
convincing Christian pretense the twentieth century ever produced; and if
she was a charlatan, who else is playing church inside the Church?

†. Matt 7:22-23 . .Many will say to me in that day; Lord, Master, have we
not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in
thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them; I
never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

Christ's statement doesn't target Atheists, nor Buddhists, nor Hindus, nor
Muslims. No, it targets people professing to have prophesied in "thy name",
and to have exorcised demons in "thy name", and to have done may
wonderful works in "thy name"; viz: it targets Christians-- and not just your
average rank and file pew warmers either, no, but rather, it targets the
cream of the crop; the celebrities of the Christian world; renowned for their
accomplishments, their piety, their perseverance, their love, and their
dedication.

It is to many of those very kinds of Christians that Christ will say: I never
knew you. Why? Because though those luminaries glistered, they were never
in league with Christ though they certainly appeared to be; and that is really
scary because it make one wonder who to trust.

Recommended Reading:

Mother Teresa / Come Be My Light
The Private Writings of the "Saint of Calcutta"
Edited with commentary by Father Brian Kolodiejchuk, M.C.
ISBN 978-0-385-52037-9

NOTE: The book is a collection of Teresa's letters written privately to
spiritual counselors; published with hierarchy approval by her long-time
friend Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk M.C.; director of the Mother Teresa Center,
and a Postulator in favor of her canonization.

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Rome's poster girl, Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu (a.k.a. Mother Teresa) is a
terrible disappointment. It turns out Teresa was a remarkable actor. Her
public image bore no resemblance whatsoever to the secret life of her inner
being. Below are some quotes taken from her own private letters; and
excerpts of her statements from other sources. You be the judge: role model
or role player, believer or make-believer?

"Only pray that I keep up this joy exteriorly. I deceive people with this
weapon-- even my Sisters."

"I am grateful to for all the kindness & help you give to my Sisters and me.
My prayer, though miserably dry & frozen, is often offered for you & your
work for souls."

"When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting
emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my
very soul. How painful is this unknown pain-- I have no faith."

"I am told God loves me; and yet the reality of darkness & coldness &
emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul."

"Now Father-- since 49 or 50 this terrible sense of loss-- this untold
darkness-- this loneliness, this continual longing for God-- which gives me
pain deep down in my heart-- Darkness is such that I really do not see
neither with my mind nor with my reason-- the place of God in my soul is
blank-- There is no God in me-- when the pain of longing is so great-- I just
long & long for God-- and then it is that I feel-- He does not want me-- He is
not there-- God does not want me-- Sometimes-- I just hear my own heart
cry out-- "My God" and nothing else comes-- the torture and pain I can't
explain"

"My smile is a great cloak that hides a multitude of pains."

"The damned of Hell suffer eternal punishment because they experiment
with the loss of God. In my own soul, I feel the terrible pain of this loss. I
feel that God does not want me, that God is not God; and that He does not
really exist."

"If there be God . . please forgive me."

"Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a better Muslim
or a better Protestant. Once you've found God, it's up to you to decide how
to worship him" (Mother Teresa Touched Other Faiths, Associated Press,
9/7/97).

"We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of
Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God's
presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for
this better men-- simply better --we will be satisfied. It matters to the
individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes
that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes
into their life-- his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no
doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation."

The April 7-13, 1990, issue of Radio Times tells the story of Mother Teresa
sheltering an old Hindu priest. "She nursed him with her own hands and
helped him to die reconciled with his own gods."

Teresa was virtually 100% estranged from both God and Christ during the
whole five decades of her work in India. She experienced a darkness of the
soul unparalleled among Catholic mystics. Some say this was in preparation
for her eventual sainthood. But Paul the apostle was a "saint" and he never
once experienced Teresa's depth of abandonment. In point of fact, he never
experienced any abandonment whatsoever; nor should any other of Christ's
followers.

†. John 14:15-18 . .If you love me, keep my commandments. And I will
pray the Father, and He will give you another Counselor, that He may abide
with you forever-- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive,
because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He
dwells with you and will be in you. I will not leave you orphans; I will come
to you.

†. John 14:23 . .If anyone loves me, he will keep my word; and my Father
will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

†. John 15:10 . .If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love,
just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in His love.

†. Phlp 4:5-7 . .The Lord is nearby. Do not be anxious about anything, but in
everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your concerns
to God. And the peace of God, which is beyond the intellect, will guard your
hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

†. Rom 8:15-16 . .For you have not received a spirit of slavery again to fear;
but you have received a spirit of adoption, whereby we call out; Abba!
Father! The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.

The Spirit's silence in Teresa's heart, and her utter lack of peace, were
indicative of something very gone-wrong in her association with Christ.

†. 1John 1:5-7 . .This is the message we have heard from him and declare
to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have
fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the
truth.

Father Neuner, one of Teresa's spiritual advisors commented: "Why had God
abandoned her totally? She had to lead the Sisters, initiate them into the
love of God and into a life of prayer, which had been wiped out in her own
life as she lived in total emptiness. Had she become a shameful hypocrite
who spoke to others about the divine mysteries which had totally vanished
from her own heart?"

All evidence points to the obvious conclusion that Teresa was the most
convincing Christian pretense the twentieth century ever produced; and if
she was a charlatan, who else is playing church inside the Church?

†. Matt 7:22-23 . .Many will say to me in that day; Lord, Master, have we
not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in
thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them; I
never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity.

Christ's statement doesn't target Atheists, nor Buddhists, nor Hindus, nor
Muslims. No, it targets people professing to have prophesied in "thy name",
and to have exorcised demons in "thy name", and to have done may
wonderful works in "thy name"; viz: it targets Christians-- and not just your
average rank and file pew warmers either, no, but rather, it targets the
cream of the crop; the celebrities of the Christian world; renowned for their
accomplishments, their piety, their perseverance, their love, and their
dedication.

It is to many of those very kinds of Christians that Christ will say: I never
knew you. Why? Because though those luminaries glistered, they were never
in league with Christ though they certainly appeared to be; and that is really
scary because it make one wonder who to trust.

Recommended Reading:

Mother Teresa / Come Be My Light
The Private Writings of the "Saint of Calcutta"
Edited with commentary by Father Brian Kolodiejchuk, M.C.
ISBN 978-0-385-52037-9

NOTE: The book is a collection of Teresa's letters written privately to
spiritual counselors; published with hierarchy approval by her long-time
friend Rev. Brian Kolodiejchuk M.C.; director of the Mother Teresa Center,
and a Postulator in favor of her canonization.

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Spoken as a woman torn because she did not know Christ as her personal Savior. A pity she never understood the truth that would set her free.It wasn't the pope,it wasnt praying to Mary. That is why she felt so empty. We've all faced doubt and emptiness,dry spells. We move away from God.Its when we have the sense to know the devil is lying to us and return to a close relationship with Christ that we are set free. Pity she didnt know that truth.Works dont save you. If you are saved works will be a big part of your witness but they dont save you.
 
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Whenever I used to see Mother Teresa lauded by the world media, I would think

Woe whenever all people speak well of you, for their fathers used to do the same [things] to the false prophets. Luke 6:26
 

WebersHome

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Five decades of darkness, dryness, and feelings of abandonment do not
bode well for ordinary Catholics. If an outstanding nun like Teresa had no
luck connecting with God, then what chance do John and Jane Q. pew
warmer have?

Something that really caught my interest about Teresa was her fear that if
there really is a God (she was never quite sure) He might not like her; but
instead might be quite inclined to condemn her.

She was so disturbed by the possibility that in the final weeks of her life, at
the urging of Henry D'Souza, the Archbishop of Calcutta (a.k.a. Kolkata),
Teresa agreed to an exorcism -- performed by Father Rosario Stroscio --if
perchance demons were clouding her mind.

Demons clouding Teresa of Calcutta's mind!? That is certainly not a very
appealing testimonial to Catholicism's value as a source of light and
consolation of God's sensible presence.

Compare Teresa's end-of-life experience with the up-beat testimony of the
apostle Paul:

†. 2Tim 4:6-8 . . I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my
departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course,
I have kept the faith: henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of
righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that
day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Paul's mind certainly wasn't clouded, nor was he in doubt about the
existence of a God, nor was he nervous that if a God did exist, it might not
like him; and possibly quite disposed to condemn him. No, none of that
because that is just simply not the way New Testament Christianity works.

†. Php 4:9 . .Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or
seen in me-- put it into practice; and the God of peace will be with you.

Why wasn't the God of peace with the most pious nun the twentieth century
ever produced? Duh. Because she failed to put into practice whatever it was
that the Christians at Philippi learned, received, heard from, and saw in Paul.
Anybody can see that she apparently put into practice what she learned,
received, heard from, and saw in somebody else.

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Whenever I used to see Mother Teresa lauded by the world media, I would think
Woe whenever all people speak well of you, for their fathers used to do the same [things] to the false prophets. Luke 6:26
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Like Billy Graham. The world loved him. A 33 degree mason. Masons adhere to lucifer. How precious is that?
 

Angela53510

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I had heard this about Mother Teresa before, but I had never read her journals and the info you posted above.

What a sad testiment to the Catholic church! Even her confessor could not help her find God. I guess, like Martin Luther, who could find no peace in his Ph.D in theology, and being a monk, professor of theology, she needed to search the Scriptures to find the truth of how God saves us. This verse below is the one that brought Luther to faith, and caused him to leave the Catholic Church.

"Therefore, since we are justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Romans 5:1

It is not by the RCC, with its rites and rituals, unending confessions to be absolved by a mere man, nor the stained glass and fancy cathedrals, but by the Word of God and the power of the Holy Spirit.

"Then he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the Lord of hosts." Zech. 4:6

So sad that her eyes were blinded her whole life, and that although she served who she thought to be God faithfully, it was only the lies of the RCC, and she knew that she wasn't saved.
 

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I won't judge her.
If she died a believer, she is with Jesus.
If she died rejecting Jesus she is banished forever from His presence.

Most of the quotes seemed like the angst of a poet expressing herself honestly.

Even David had expressed some similar struggles.
 
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She refused medical treatment to the people in her care - Google it. She thought that suffering would glorify God more. She was a crazy woman.
 

Yet

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I read she'd tell the Indians of India to call upon their own gods for help.
 

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I read she'd tell the Indians of India to call upon their own gods for help.
I read that too; in post #1

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If she died a believer, she is with Jesus.
Anybody who prays; "If there be God . . please forgive me" and/or says "I
feel that God is not God; and that He does not really exist" isn't a believer;
they're an agnostic.

When people attempt to associate with God, they must, at the very least, be
confident that He exists (Heb 11:6)


Even David had expressed some similar struggles.
"some" is to be expected; but all the time?

I've encountered people who liken Teresa's feelings of abandonment to
Christ's abandonment on the cross.

But come on now; his was only 3 hours, not even one full day while hers
was five decades: 18,250 days; viz: 438,000 hours.

Any rational person would have to agree that 438,000 hours of
estrangement from God would be grossly abnormal even for marginal
Christians.

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Mother Teresa received 124 awards, including the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Medal of Freedom. She built hundreds of orphanages, hospitals, hospices, health clinics, homeless shelters, youth shelters and soup kitchens all over the world, and is revered in India for her work. She created the first hospice in Greenwich Village for AIDS patients. Not surprisingly, she was voted the most admired woman in the world three years in a row in the mid-1990s.

Last year the Empire State Building shone in red and yellow lights to honor the 60th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Revolution. Yet under its founder, Mao Zedong, the Communists killed 77 million people. In other words, the greatest mass murderer in history merited the same tribute being denied to Mother Teresa.
Support Mother Teresa - Catholic League
 
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So like us all, she doubted and struggled with her faith and even though her prayer life was dry she dedicated that time to God.

Sounds a lot like David, Solomon, you and me.
 

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Mother Teresa received 124 awards, including the Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom and the Congressional Medal of Freedom. She built hundreds of orphanages, hospitals, hospices, health clinics, homeless shelters, youth shelters and soup kitchens all over the world, and is revered in India for her work. She created the first hospice in Greenwich Village for AIDS patients. Not surprisingly, she was voted the most admired woman in the world three years in a row in the mid-1990s.

Last year the Empire State Building shone in red and yellow lights to honor the 60th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Revolution. Yet under its founder, Mao Zedong, the Communists killed 77 million people. In other words, the greatest mass murderer in history merited the same tribute being denied to Mother Teresa.
Support Mother Teresa - Catholic League
Yet, if she rejected Jesus...
 
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If she rejected Him...issue is there is no evidence that she did.
 

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Christopher Hitchens, an atheist, has been the major force with a book, movie, and articles influencing the many in this thread.

Christopher Hitchens, is a British transplant, a political pundit who has written a column for the Nationmagazine for decades. The Nation, for the unacquainted, is a magazine that would put a smile on the face of Joseph Stalin. (Speaking of Stalin, it is not unimportant that Hitchens’ father was a gunrunner for Old Joe, proving once again the maxim “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.”)

Hitchens has also written many books, none of them of any consequence, and has now found a new home writing for Vanity Fair. Having spent his entire adult life on the wrong side of history, he has become a very bitter and angry man.

Why does Hitchens hate Mother Teresa?

Like Mother Teresa, Hitchens is troubled by poverty. Unlike her, he does nothing about it. What upsets him most is that the world’s greatest champion of the dispossessed is an unassuming nun. Hitchens would prefer to grant the award to ideology, namely to the politics of socialism. And because he is a determined atheist, he cannot come to terms with Mother Teresa’s spirituality and the millions who adore her. More than this, it is her Catholicism that drives him mad.
Even some of Hitchens’ fellow leftists have noticed his deep-seated hatred of Catholicism.

In the 1980s, Robert Orsi accused Hitchens of continuing “a shameful Nation tradition of anti-Catholicism,” adding that “Hitchens’s straightforward hatred of Catholics is offensive and ugly prejudice.” It is to be expected, then, that anyone as well received as Mother Teresa would be too much for Hitchens to bear.
As expected, Mother Teresa has won scores of awards from all over the world. This bothers Hitchens. What has she done with the money earned from the awards? He doesn’t know, but that doesn’t stop him from saying “nobody has ever asked what became of the funds.” Not true. He has asked, so why doesn’t he tell us what he found? Because that would take work. Worse than that, he would then have to confront the truth. This is why he would rather imply that Mother Teresa is sticking the loot in her pocket. It’s easier this way....
Christopher Hitchens: The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice - Catholic League

Keep in mind the media is at war with the Catholic Church; it's amazing how easy people are deceived by false reports
 
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I observe only one part of the equation. That if the blind lead the blind both will fall into a pit. God says many worship Him in vain because they follow not His doctrine, but the doctrines of men. The bible says that having things such as knowledge, solving mysteries, and even surrendering your body to flames, means nothing if you have not love. And Jesus says if we love Him we will obey His doctrine.

You can serve day and night doing hard labor, (which is your spiritual act of worship Romans 12:1), but it means nothing if you are not obeying God. God says you MUST worship in spirit AND in truth. Catholicism (which she followed) goes against the bible. Jesus said call no man on earth father (in a spiritual sense)- which they do.

The bible says when people tell you to abstain from certain foods or to not get married (which Catholics do) that these are things taught by demons. Jesus said the bible was complete, and not to add to it or take away from it- which Catholics have done, and even to this day are always making up rules and changing rules. Seems to me that someone who put in much study would clearly recognize that this doctrine does not match the bible.

I can only observe that she publicly followed doctrines of men. But I don't see all the facts, and God is her judge anyways.