The Unpardonable Sin

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NetChaplain

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The preaching of the Gospel of the Kingdom by John the Baptist and the Messiah laid upon the chosen nation, Israel, the demand for a decision. This demand was openly present in all the early preaching of the Kingdom Gospel. The imperatives were “repent,” “believe,” “receive,” “confess,” and “follow.” No room was left for neutrality: those who heard the message must either be for the Messiah King or against Him (Matt 12:30).

It was the religious leaders of Israel who rejected Jesus’ Messiahship, and they would ultimately lead the nation into the same rejection. The basis of the rejection was demon possession, for the leaders claimed that the source of the Messiah’s power came from “the prince of demons” (12:24).

Rejecting Jesus as the Messiah on the basis of His being demon possessed led to His charge that the leadership of Israel, and by extension the entire nation, was now guilty of the “blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (12:31).

Dr. Alva McClain gives a seven-point elaboration of the in his “The Greatness of the Kingdom”: First, the blasphemy committed was definitely related to the Kingdom of God, for that is the concept running through the context. Second, the blasphemy committed involved a question regarding the regal credentials of Christ. Rejecting Him as the Messiah also meant rejecting Him as King, and, therefore, a rejection of the Kingdom offer.

Third, this specific sin was declared a blasphemy against the Spirit of God. Since the miracles of Jesus were by the power of the Holy Spirit and through these miracles the Holy Spirit gave testimony to the Messiahship of Jesus, to ascribe these miracles as resulting from the power of Satan was to speak against the Holy Spirit.

Fourth, this was declared to be an unpardonable sin (12:32). Since God the Father sent the Messiah to be the Savior of men, in the Messiah all sin can be forgiven without limitation. Therefore, the sinful resistance of the Holy Spirit, Who testifies as to Jesus’ Messiahship, puts the rejecter outside the Messiah. Since it is morally impossible for God to forgive sin outside Christ, this rendered the sin unpardonable.

Fifth, the specific ones involved in this sin against the Holy Spirit were the religious leaders of Israel. Sixth, the responsibility for this sin is not limited to the leaders, it also extended to the whole nation of Israel, for they ultimately followed their leaders in the rejection. This corporate responsibility of the people of Israel is clear from the several uses of the term “generation” in the same context (12:39-45).

By the same token, the responsibility for the unpardonable sin is limited to the Jewish generation of Jesus’ day and is not extended to subsequent Jewish generations. Seventh, the specific penalty for this sin was a national judgment, and immediate judgement within the history of that particular generation. For that generation it was the judgment of A.D. 70 when within the time span of a single generation, judgment fell in the destruction of Jerusalem and the world-wide dispersion of the nation.

Nevertheless, while an entire generation has lost its historical opportunity, and with dire results (other than Spirit blasphemy—NC) for many succeeding generations, the nation of Israel itself could not irrecoverably lose those ancient rights (Kingdom promises to subsequent Jews outside the blasphemy sin—NC) which had been guaranteed by the God of Israel.
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The unpardonable sin is the rejection of God's Spirit and thus Christ Himself. It's the sin of unbelief.
 
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The unpardonable sin is the rejection of God's Spirit and thus Christ Himself. It's the sin of unbelief.
Hi Roberth - I agree, but Spirit blasphemy was a particular sin committed by a particular people (unbelieving religious Jews) at a particular time (during Christ on earth). I believe one who is an unbeliever can become a believer, but one who has blasphemed the Spirit (which is not likely since the time of Christ) cannot become a believer.
 

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The unpardonable sin is the rejection of God's Spirit and thus Christ Himself. It's the sin of unbelief.
So did you always believe in Christ?
 

Zmouth

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The unpardonable sin is the rejection of God's Spirit and thus Christ Himself. It's the sin of unbelief.
So did you always believe in Christ?
 

RickyZ

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The unpardonable sin is the rejection of God's Spirit and thus Christ Himself. It's the sin of unbelief.
I've always extrapolated that into, the only unpardonable sin is not asking God for a pardon!
 
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The Unpardonable sin is attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan. This can only be done by one who understands who the Holy Spirit is personally and while knowing, saying it's from Satan. Perhaps this refers to someone so hardened and numbed by iniquity to the point where they turn from God and call what they know is of God as something from Satan.
 
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The case of the “unpardonable sin/unforgivable sin” is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. The term “blasphemy” may be generally defined as “defiant irreverence.” This case is a specific one called “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” in Matthew 12:31.

In this passage, the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that He was possessed by the demon Beelzebub (Matthew 12:24). In Mark 3:30, Jesus is very specific about what exactly they did to commit “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”

This blasphemy then has to do with accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. This specific unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be duplicated today. The only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in unbelief.
 
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Saul before he became Paul was born under the law,so then why was he not cosidered the same as the leaders In the law along with the people?

The bible says Paul was a blaspemer but he obtained mercy because he did It Ignorantly In unbelief.
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Timothy 1:12-13
King James Version(KJV)

12.And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13.Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.
 
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The Unpardonable sin is attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan. This can only be done by one who understands who the Holy Spirit is personally and while knowing, saying it's from Satan. Perhaps this refers to someone so hardened and numbed by iniquity to the point where they turn from God and call what they know is of God as something from Satan.
Hi NRD - Thanks for your reply and I agree with your comment per Matthew 12:24. Myself, I believe this sin was peculiar to that people during that period or "generation." I do not believe this sin was repeated by any more religious peoples since that time. It opposed Christ and the Spirit in Their healing works, which was a first at that magnitude, and since.
 
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phil112

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Hi Roberth - I agree, but Spirit blasphemy was a particular sin committed by a particular people (unbelieving religious Jews) at a particular time (during Christ on earth). I believe one who is an unbeliever can become a believer, but one who has blasphemed the Spirit (which is not likely since the time of Christ) cannot become a believer.
So you're building a doctrine on supposition.
It's not likely because of what scripture?
I'd rather base doctrine on what the bible says, rather than what it doesn't say.
 
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NetChaplain

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So you're building a doctrine on supposition.
It's not likely because of what scripture?
I'd rather base doctrine on what the bible says, rather than what it doesn't say.
Hi Phil - I appreciate your input, but not certain of what you're trying to share.
 
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Gr8grace

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The case of the “unpardonable sin/unforgivable sin” is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. The term “blasphemy” may be generally defined as “defiant irreverence.” This case is a specific one called “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit” in Matthew 12:31.

In this passage, the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that He was possessed by the demon Beelzebub (Matthew 12:24). In Mark 3:30, Jesus is very specific about what exactly they did to commit “the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”

This blasphemy then has to do with accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. This specific unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit cannot be duplicated today. The only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in unbelief.
I Agree. This particular sin was only when Christ was in hypo-static union(the God Man on this earth, operating in the power of the Holy Spirit.)
 

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The Unpardonable sin is attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to Satan. This can only be done by one who understands who the Holy Spirit is personally and while knowing, saying it's from Satan. Perhaps this refers to someone so hardened and numbed by iniquity to the point where they turn from God and call what they know is of God as something from Satan.
In total Agreement , that is why Thee Pharisees that saw those miracles had no excuse, becasue they clearly knew it was from God, but they refused to humble themselfs, becasue of there Pride.

examination of the context of: John 3:2

The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God:for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

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phil112

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Hi Phil - I appreciate your input, but not certain of what you're trying to share.
Trying to share? I'm trying to figure out what your gig is.

Here is what you say: "I believe one who is an unbeliever can become a believer, but one who has blasphemed the Spirit (which is not likely since the time of Christ) cannot become a believer."

You say you believe something, tell us something isn't likely, but offer no scripture to support what you believe nor how you know it isn't likely.
So I look at your profile, which is something I rarely do, and see that you have never liked someone else's post, and since you call yourself netchaplain I assume you want to be an internet preacher.
So give scripture to support your posit. How hard is that?
 
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phil112

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Hi Roberth - I agree, but Spirit blasphemy was a particular sin committed by a particular people (unbelieving religious Jews) at a particular time (during Christ on earth). I believe one who is an unbeliever can become a believer, but one who has blasphemed the Spirit (which is not likely since the time of Christ) cannot become a believer.
Where does the bible say that? You present it as fact, as truth. Truth can be proven. Prove it.
 
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It's not likely because of what scripture?
Spirit blasphemy is shown in Scripture to be a problem of the Jewish leaders in Christ's time, due to the absence of it being mentioned since then, so it's not likely this offense has ever been repeated by many since then. Suppositions can be made even without it being clearly indicated in Scripture, if that's what you are talking about.
 
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BradC

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Hi Roberth - I agree, but Spirit blasphemy was a particular sin committed by a particular people (unbelieving religious Jews) at a particular time (during Christ on earth). I believe one who is an unbeliever can become a believer, but one who has blasphemed the Spirit (which is not likely since the time of Christ) cannot become a believer.
The work of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ is the same Spirit that worked in the life of CHRIST WHO IS OUR HEAD. To blaspheme the Spirit during the time Christ walked on the earth is to charge it as a work of evil and blasphemy. Don't think that the work of the Spirit in the body of Christ will not receive the same charge of evil and blasphemy against it. For Christ is the head of the body and the work of the body will be greater then that which Christ did on earth through the Spirit. This work will be considered to be evil when they call good evil and evil good. Jesus said that if they do it unto you they did it unto me first, but greater is he that is in you then he that is in the world.

During the time of Christ it was the Jews who blasphemed the Spirit of the Son calling his work evil but in the last days it will be the spirit of anti-Christ that will blaspheme and consider the work of the body of Christ an unholy thing.
 
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I believe Spirit blasphemy was committed only by unbelievers, and we know that no sin outside of Christ is forgivable.
 
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KennethC

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I believe Spirit blasphemy was committed only by unbelievers, and we know that no sin outside of Christ is forgivable.
How can a person blasphemy against something they don't believe in ???

That would be like yelling at a brick wall, it serves no purpose............

The bible speaks of different ways the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is done:

1) Attributing the works of God as from the devil

2) Denying the power of the Holy Spirit working in and through us

3) Denying His guidance

4) Denying His gifts

5) Disobedience (grieving Him)

Some of these can actually be under each other, but it is man's ways that has watered it down to simply unbelief.

However unbelief in the bible is spoken of being more then just not believing in God or Jesus existing !!!

Unbelief is also stated as; disobedience, being unforgiving, do not have a helpful heart, and such..........