Cruelty to animals in the dairy and meat industry
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It is not as impossible as it seems, and we do have choices. People vote with their dollars, and although buying organic, free range, and humanely grown and treated meats may be more expensive, it is ultimately not only better for you but better for the planet also 
Studies have been done on the association of blood type to diet as well, with the finding that O blood types may have the hardest time completely giving up meat. Even so, I know some O blood types who are vegetarian
Studies have been done on the association of blood type to diet as well, with the finding that O blood types may have the hardest time completely giving up meat. Even so, I know some O blood types who are vegetarian 
And it's not only about cows; it's also about goats, pigs, chicken, etc...
These wonderful and defenseless creatures exhibit the tendency to show affection, emote, form strong bonds and respond to love. Yet, the very thought of these animals being used, abused, tortured for years and then being disposed off from farms as mere meat is unsettling.
These wonderful and defenseless creatures exhibit the tendency to show affection, emote, form strong bonds and respond to love. Yet, the very thought of these animals being used, abused, tortured for years and then being disposed off from farms as mere meat is unsettling.
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Of course we should kill them quickly for less suffering. But what did they do in the Old Testament? Kill them with a knife and put them on the alter? I don't know of a painless way to do it, aside from morphine, but that would get in our food, not to mention the expense- every animal every time?
God has never sinned, and He commanded us to kill and eat from the herd and from the flock. Is it painful for the animal? Yes. Is it sinful for us to do? No.
God has never sinned, and He commanded us to kill and eat from the herd and from the flock. Is it painful for the animal? Yes. Is it sinful for us to do? No.
It is not as impossible as it seems, and we do have choices. People vote with their dollars, and although buying organic, free range, and humanely grown and treated meats may be more expensive, it is ultimately not only better for you but better for the planet also Studies have been done on the association of blood type to diet as well, with the finding that O blood types may have the hardest time completely giving up meat. Even so, I know some O blood types who are vegetarian
Studies have been done on the association of blood type to diet as well, with the finding that O blood types may have the hardest time completely giving up meat. Even so, I know some O blood types who are vegetarian
I wish these options of humanely grown meats were available in all parts of the world!
In my family, a meal is not called a meal if it does not consist of meat or poultry products.
BTW, beef has been recently banned in India, although for religious purposes.
...that's why I said it's almost impossible
I wish these options of humanely grown meats were available in all parts of the world!
In my family, a meal is not called a meal if it does not consist of meat or poultry products.
BTW, beef has been recently banned in India, although for religious purposes.
I wish these options of humanely grown meats were available in all parts of the world!
In my family, a meal is not called a meal if it does not consist of meat or poultry products.
BTW, beef has been recently banned in India, although for religious purposes.
I live in India..., as my flag indicates My city is Mumbai.
No, although they worship the cow in India, beef was never banned, until a few months ago. The ban is a government move.
My city is Mumbai.No, although they worship the cow in India, beef was never banned, until a few months ago. The ban is a government move.
So it is nice to finally meet you That is interesting to know about the beef ban being only recently enacted. I am aware that the cow is venerated there... Another thing I know about India is that Monsanto is responsible for shifting the agricultural economy from one of biodiversity to monoculture, and two hundred thousand farmer suicides between the years of 2001 and 2011 were directly tied to genetically modified crops failing.
I do not recognize many flags, sorry! I have seen you around and our paths have crossed since I have been here the last half year, but never really spoken to you before that I can recall So it is nice to finally meet you That is interesting to know about the beef ban being only recently enacted. I am aware that the cow is venerated there... Another thing I know about India is that Monsanto is responsible for shifting the agricultural economy from one of biodiversity to monoculture, and two hundred thousand farmer suicides between the years of 2001 and 2011 were directly tied to genetically modified crops failing.
So it is nice to finally meet you That is interesting to know about the beef ban being only recently enacted. I am aware that the cow is venerated there... Another thing I know about India is that Monsanto is responsible for shifting the agricultural economy from one of biodiversity to monoculture, and two hundred thousand farmer suicides between the years of 2001 and 2011 were directly tied to genetically modified crops failing.
There have been farmer suicides even before Monsanto, due to poor infrastructure and poor government policies. However, there was an alarming spike in the rate of suicides post Monsanto.
As it is, the condition of Indian farmers was pathetic. GMO crops have only increased their woes by putting them in greater financial debts. Rather than solving their existing problems, GMO crops were forced upon them by the insensitive Indian government. GMO crops were bound to fail because Indian farms depend mainly on rainfall and there is also no proper irrigation system.
What is worse is that the widows and children of the farmers are still living in misery. Ironically, the farmers, being the producers, benefit the least from their produce.
There's also a big problem for many Americans who have had to move to urban living to find employment, lots of them with no yard at all. There used to be a lot of agri jobs in the rural areas I'm familiar with, but now about the only people you see working is the postman and UPS delivery. A small solution is to grow a tomato plant in a pot on a balcony.
I figure this is likely a thread at least partly pushing animal rights. There are a few animal rights in the Bible, like letting the ox eat grain while pulling the yoke. But no real science, nor the Bible, can be used to prove any animal has an imagination like a human that can dream of living on a range instead of in a pen. So far it appears they are as "happy" in the pen as would be free ranging. An interesting thought came by me, how a cow might express happiness or communicate that it is miserable, other than show signs of starvation or disease. Lack of food and water could be for one cow "mistreatment" while in a pen, but in the range wouldn't it's sibling would suffer as much during a severe drought until the owner finds and feeds it? So the belly pain subsides. Now we assume the animal is once again happy. Why? They don't laugh, or smile, but can bellow if hungry whether in the pen hungry or having 20 acres of range per head and equally hungry. Cattlemen/shepherds, etc. basically train their animals to come to food plots, while free ranging animals grow distant from the rancher even if overly malnourished, so they have to be rounded up and driven to food. It's reasonable to believe all animals react to stimuli differently than people, their actions a matter of simple conditioning, part of domestication.
The very point of all the blood and gore of animal sacrifice in the old testament was to stress the seriousness and solemnness of the occasion. I am certain that the sacrifice of animals, the gruesome scene, left a imprint on the mind of many a young boy and girl seeing such a thing, not to mention grown men and woman.
To those that say God had us killing animals then so why not now, it is clear that God originally did not want us killing animals, they are his creation. It was the sin of man who caused the entire world to fall. We took everything with us. We may have even possibly caused decay to enter the world, maybe even the universe. Remember, we were supposed to live forever.
So God told us to use the animals as a sacrifice. The life is in the blood. That was what was required, so serious is sin. Without God's grace, one sin is death to us.
Finally Jesus, His precious blood, was the ultimate sacrifice.
Which means, we have no more reason to kill animals, much less torture them. It is the new testament times we are living in. Comparing what happened in the OT is not a viable comparison.
Gen 1:29 says we were originally to eat a diet of vegetation. When we fell, God did not say start killing animals, only we would have to work the soil.
What we are doing to animals today is just yet another manifestation of our hardened hearts.
To those that say God had us killing animals then so why not now, it is clear that God originally did not want us killing animals, they are his creation. It was the sin of man who caused the entire world to fall. We took everything with us. We may have even possibly caused decay to enter the world, maybe even the universe. Remember, we were supposed to live forever.
So God told us to use the animals as a sacrifice. The life is in the blood. That was what was required, so serious is sin. Without God's grace, one sin is death to us.
Finally Jesus, His precious blood, was the ultimate sacrifice.
Which means, we have no more reason to kill animals, much less torture them. It is the new testament times we are living in. Comparing what happened in the OT is not a viable comparison.
Gen 1:29 says we were originally to eat a diet of vegetation. When we fell, God did not say start killing animals, only we would have to work the soil.
What we are doing to animals today is just yet another manifestation of our hardened hearts.
Cruelty. Ah yes! I think that very thing when I see commercials about animal cruelty appealing to peoples hearts but I rarely ever see the same kind of focus on the homeless starving on the streets.
Cruelty. Thats when we ignore the person sitting outside the store with everything they own in a paper bag while we go in and buy a bag of chips, walk past them on the way to our cars and leave them as we found them.
Yes. Man has become so calloused.