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    Quote Originally Posted by Honey_Bee View Post
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    I spoke about the system of denominationalism, and this system is not from God, not of God, not godly, period. Yes, there are many many good people in these houses of worship/businesses of Christian faiths, swallowing poisonous doctrines comingled with a gospel message. And, I will add, these places do wonderful things.

    "Knowledge of the truth" is not about arriving at more and more truth through study along with a theological mindset, that practice is actually known as a "form of godliness", which leads people captive with a yoke of bondage to bad doctrines.

    Coming to the knowledge of the truth is most definitely the pathway of salvation, the truth of Christ and Him crucified. There is a gospel truth by which we must be saved in this ministry, the ministry of reconciliation, the "preaching of Jesus Christ" according to the revelation of the mystery, for the church the body of Christ. I am very familiar with 2 Tim 2:15 and Romans 12:2 KJV. I'm sorry if you are offended, but I understand... we don't believe the same things.
    Sounds like some version of mid-Acts Dispensationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy-Pevensie View Post
    King Hornet sounds like a superhero
    I doubt that king's feminist kingdom would survive very long. His queen would be sent to lead the military with a bunch of women, while the men sat home doing their laundry and changing their diapers. Somehow I doubt that would be very successful.
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    Thank you for answering.

    This is a new concept to me, that the conversion of Paul started the ministry of reconciliation.

    The ministry of reconciliation is in Christ Jesus .... who reconciles us to God, I do not see how the conversion of Paul is related to this except that he explains it in his letter. His conversion did not initiate the dispensation of grace.

    What fellowship, preacher teaches this?

    Theology means the study of the nature of God, your second paragraph is your theology so to speak.

    Somehow you have been indoctrinated that all theology is bad or wrong, to me that comes across as almost cultic.



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    Sure, certainly, thanks for asking. I assemble with other believers in fellowship as well, of course, it's a wonderful blessing and what we all want/seek as Christians, and that is what lead me to church in the first place so many years ago.

    At the conversion of the Apostle Paul from the Jew's religion, that is when the ministry of reconciliation started and the dispensation of the grace of God, it brought along with it new doctrines from God toward all men, into the world of idolatry. Theology has been in the world long before Christianity. The first theologian's words, "Yea, hath God said?"
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    Can you show me from scripture where you obtain this idea that the conversion of Paul initiated the ministry of reconciliation and the dispensation of God's grace?

    I guess I am off topic ..oh well.




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    Sure, certainly, thanks for asking. I assemble with other believers in fellowship as well, of course, it's a wonderful blessing and what we all want/seek as Christians, and that is what lead me to church in the first place so many years ago.

    At the conversion of the Apostle Paul from the Jew's religion, that is when the ministry of reconciliation started and the dispensation of the grace of God, it brought along with it new doctrines from God toward all men, into the world of idolatry. Theology has been in the world long before Christianity. The first theologian's words, "Yea, hath God said?"
    For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy-Pevensie View Post
    King Hornet sounds like a superhero
    King hornet was green hornets long lost, but not forgotten father but he went over to the dark side, then he helped green hornet blow up the deathstar.
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    It is my experience, when I decided to set down my theological doctrines at the foot of the cross, trust in Christ and what He did for me on the cross 100% plus nothing else, and turn to God to help me understand His word and doctrines, I understood what I say here, God is not a theologian, and theology is not from God.

    It doesn't mean that I don't listen or look or get exposed to various schools of thought... I don't believe I have said theology is bad, I'll have to go back and read my posts, but I do believe theology creates a lot of bad doctrine and wrong thinking, and we need to be mindful of recovering ourselves. As a workman, I don't want to be an ineffective Christian for the ministry high calling. I accept the distinctions God has made in His word for us and our learning regarding stewardship of mystery truths in this current age of grace.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderGrace View Post
    Thank you for answering.

    This is a new concept to me, that the conversion of Paul started the ministry of reconciliation.

    The ministry of reconciliation is in Christ Jesus .... who reconciles us to God, I do not see how the conversion of Paul is related to this except that he explains it in his letter. His conversion did not initiate the dispensation of grace.

    What fellowship, preacher teaches this?

    Theology means the study of the nature of God, your second paragraph is your theology so to speak.

    Somehow you have been indoctrinated that all theology is bad or wrong, to me that comes across as almost cultic.
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    I am so thankful to our Lord that He gives us only one day to live at a time. Yesterday does not belong to us any longer, It is in God's hands. There is nothing we can do about what we did or what happened, yesterday. Tomorrow doesn't belong to us either. Neither you nor I know if we will even be here tomorrow. Tomorrow belongs to God also. The only day he has given to us is, Today!

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    It is my experience, when I decided to set down my theological doctrines at the foot of the cross, trust in Christ and what He did for me on the cross 100% plus nothing else, and turn to God to help me understand His word and doctrines,
    Yes I can relate to this completely, however it is not theology that is the problem, it is that people develop wrong theology, it cannot be helped, people generally have internal biases that they cannot even see let alone get beyond, I know I was definitely influenced by my own preconceived ideas and heavily influenced by the supposed great thinkers of the past generations.


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    It is my experience, when I decided to set down my theological doctrines at the foot of the cross, trust in Christ and what He did for me on the cross 100% plus nothing else, and turn to God to help me understand His word and doctrines, I understood what I say here, God is not a theologian, and theology is not from God.

    It doesn't mean that I don't listen or look or get exposed to various schools of thought... I don't believe I have said theology is bad, I'll have to go back and read my posts, but I do believe theology creates a lot of bad doctrine and wrong thinking, and we need to be mindful of recovering ourselves. As a workman, I don't want to be an ineffective Christian for the ministry high calling. I accept the distinctions God has made in His word for us and our learning regarding stewardship of mystery truths in this current age of grace.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HeRoseFromTheDead View Post
    What does that mean? Please spell it out for me.
    Leading and guiding the flock with responsibility and accountability, and by example. That goes waaaay beyond mere knowledge of truth.

    See, many Christians think being a pastor means you know more than others and for that reason that makes you qualified to lead people. That's simply not true.

    Being a pastor of the flock means not just having knowledge (ALL Christians are supposed to have knowledge), but also being able to share it effectively and with power. And it means being able to counsel and lead and guide people into the truths of the Bible that you teach them, walking them through their struggles with wisdom and sensitivity and compassion. And protecting them from enemies of all kinds, spiritually and physically. All the while demonstrating these truths and how to live them through the example of your own life. And then, in the end, being accountable to God for how you performed the task of pastoring he assigned to you.

    This is the authority of the office of pastor that God has ordained that only some men will have. Along with all you females, I ain't one of those to whom he gives that authority either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loyaldisciple View Post
    I doubt that king's feminist kingdom would survive very long. His queen would be sent to lead the military with a bunch of women, while the men sat home doing their laundry and changing their diapers. Somehow I doubt that would be very successful.

    LOL Feminist kingdom...like the New Jerusalem prepard as the bride of Christ the church. I think her husaband will set the pace.

    What we will be when we receive our new incorruptible bodies no ones knows. What we do know is it will be like the angels no way to procreate. Do death. no aging no mutiplying

    The whole church is typified as the chaste virgin bride of Christ as new creatures we are no longer considered male or female, Jew nor Gentile. Get with the picture.

    Paul a surrogate mother (The new Jerusalem the spiritual mother of us all )He changed Timothy’s messes many times in spiritual warfare. He was tough just like the prophetess Deborah who had brilliant military strategy.... saved all the men.
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    Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

    He was preparing Timothy for the wedding day when all receive their new incorruptible bodies.

    2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

    Is Christ your husband or are you not a member as His bride??


    What we will receive our new incorruptible bodies no ones knows. What we do know is it will be like the angels... no way to procreate. No death, no aging, no multpying

    The whole church now is typified as the chaste virgin bride of Christ as new creatures we are no longer considered male or female, Jew nor Gentile.We are Ambassadorrs of Christ from the Kingdom of the New Jerusalem prepard as the bride of Christ the church.

    Paul a surrogate mother (The new Jerusalem) changed Timothy’s messes many times in spiritual warfare. He was tough just like the prophetess Deborah .


    Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

    He was preparing Timothy for the wedding day when all receive their new incorruptible bodies.



    2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

    Is Christ your husband or are you not a member as His bride??
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    The Bible tells us that obedience leads to understanding. It is not that our understanding leads us to be obedient. Obedience must come first, then when God sees the obedience, it is then that He will place the understanding within you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmni02_emkQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by loyaldisciple View Post
    The Bible tells us that obedience leads to understanding. It is not that our understanding leads us to be obedient. Obedience must come first, then when God sees the obedience, it is then that He will place the understanding within you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmni02_emkQ
    More dogma from a King James onlyist. No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph- View Post
    Leading and guiding the flock with responsibility and accountability, and by example. That goes waaaay beyond mere knowledge of truth.
    ...
    This is the authority of the office of pastor that God has ordained that only some men will have. Along with all you females, I ain't one of those to whom he gives that authority either.
    Because, after all, 1 Speculations 3:8 declares plainly that "women may not be pastors".
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderGrace View Post
    Yes I can relate to this completely, however it is not theology that is the problem, it is that people develop wrong theology, it cannot be helped, people generally have internal biases that they cannot even see let alone get beyond, I know I was definitely influenced by my own preconceived ideas and heavily influenced by the supposed great thinkers of the past generations.
    I wouldn't know I'm not into theology myself though I do wonder what it's like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garee View Post
    ...new incorruptible bodies like the angels... no way to procreate. No death, no aging, no multipying

    The whole church now is typified as the chaste virgin bride of Christ as new creatures we are no longer considered male or female, Jew nor Gentile. We are Ambassadorrs of Christ from the Kingdom of the New Jerusalem prepard as the bride of Christ the church.

    Paul a surrogate mother (The new Jerusalem) changed Timothy’s messes many times in spiritual warfare. He was tough just like the prophetess Deborah .


    Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

    He was preparing Timothy for the wedding day when all receive their new incorruptible bodies.


    2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

    Is Christ your husband or are you not a member as His bride??
    Excellent spiritual wisdom, brother garee. Praise Jesus! \/

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    I have just seen a documentary about the role of women in the early church. It focused on three in particular mentioned in the
    Gospels Mary Magdalene, Johanna and Salome. It was very interesting. In Israel there is a large tomb hewn from rock that was used by an early Church congregation. It was stated that it was the oldest known church in Israel. On a wall there is a prayer in Greek to Salome asking for the healing of a sick member of the Church. Also in some Catacombs a late fourth century mural has be discovered depicting a Female Bishop with the Gospels and the Holy Spirits fire descending on her. According to the programe some congregations had female Bishops until a Pope ordered them to stop ordaining them. It was stated that Constantine was responsible for stopping women from being in active roles because he wanted a powerful masculine church in order to push his political programes through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino246 View Post
    More dogma from a King James onlyist. No thanks.
    More blasphemy from one who make a habit of it.

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    Oh my word, that is beautiful news, why has it not come forth already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tanakh View Post
    I have just seen a documentary about the role of women in the early church. It focused on three in particular mentioned in the
    Gospels Mary Magdalene, Johanna and Salome. It was very interesting. In Israel there is a large tomb hewn from rock that was used by an early Church congregation. It was stated that it was the oldest known church in Israel. On a wall there is a prayer in Greek to Salome asking for the healing of a sick member of the Church. Also in some Catacombs a late fourth century mural has be discovered depicting a Female Bishop with the Gospels and the Holy Spirits fire descending on her. According to the programe some congregations had female Bishops until a Pope ordered them to stop ordaining them. It was stated that Constantine was responsible for stopping women from being in active roles because he wanted a powerful masculine church in order to push his political programes through.
    I was busy so I recorded that last night and will watch it this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph- View Post
    Leading and guiding the flock with responsibility and accountability, and by example. That goes waaaay beyond mere knowledge of truth.

    See, many Christians think being a pastor means you know more than others and for that reason that makes you qualified to lead people. That's simply not true.

    Being a pastor of the flock means not just having knowledge (ALL Christians are supposed to have knowledge), but also being able to share it effectively and with power. And it means being able to counsel and lead and guide people into the truths of the Bible that you teach them, walking them through their struggles with wisdom and sensitivity and compassion. And protecting them from enemies of all kinds, spiritually and physically. All the while demonstrating these truths and how to live them through the example of your own life. And then, in the end, being accountable to God for how you performed the task of pastoring he assigned to you.

    This is the authority of the office of pastor that God has ordained that only some men will have. Along with all you females, I ain't one of those to whom he gives that authority either.
    You've described a pastor's role and job requirements. I was looking for a specific description of what "pastoral authority over men" is. I know what authority an employer does and doesn't have. The same with a LEO. But I have no idea what authority over men a pastor has.
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