Do we spread a false gospel?!!

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not one word about the believers trust in the holy spirit.

shameful
 
phil36

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VW said:
not one word about the believers trust in the holy spirit.

shameful
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Simply because that is not the question on hand. shameful you don't read the question properly.
 
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phil36 said:
Simply because that is not the question on hand. shameful you don't read the question properly.
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how can it be a true gospel without the spirit?
 
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many of the preachers of the gospel preach out of their own conviction, without the conviction of the holy spirit.

many see god's hierarchy as god the father, god the son, the bible, and then the holy spirit.

how can god honor this?

fortunately, the cross is preached, even if it is without the spirit. some will be saved whene3ver the cross is preached.

victory in christ comes by the spirit.
 
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phil36 said:
no one said it was without the spirit.
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and where was the spirit even mentioned?

i saw an intellectual exercise in biblical knowledge.
 
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yip that is correct.

God the Father

Jesus the Son

and the Holy Spirit

have a nice day
 
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phil,
forget it, i won't bother you any more.

in his love,
vic
 
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phil36 said:
That is interesting, you are saying that the Apostles did not have enough Faith as they didn't name it and claim it ??
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I think they were..

Colossians 1:24
I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,

which is an example of this..

John 12:24
I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds.

which they were given to here..

Mark 10:39
"We can," they answered. Jesus said to them, "You will drink the cup I drink and be baptized with the baptism I am baptized with,
 
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Well Biblically if we spread the true message we will be attacked by religious people. So if you are not being attacked?
 
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livingbygrace said:
Well Biblically if we spread the true message we will be attacked by religious people. So if you are not being attacked?
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interesting, i have been attacked almost from the first that i came to the board. because i teach the believer's trust and dependence on the holy spirit.
 
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interesting, i have been attacked almost from the first that i came to the board. because i teach the believer's trust and dependence on the holy spirit.
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What about your trust upon our Lord and Saviour Jesus, by the power of the Holy Spirit?
 
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phil36 said:
What about your trust upon our Lord and Saviour Jesus, by the power of the Holy Spirit?
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i do not think you can separate the two, and then not even from the father.

jesus said that he would not leave us alone. i believe him.
 
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i do not think you can separate the two, and then not even from the father.

jesus said that he would not leave us alone. i believe him.
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Are they not separate yet one?
 
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phil36 said:
Are they not separate yet one?
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are they really separate? differing manifestations does not mean separate.

jesus did not leave us alone, with just a book and a bunch of learned men to tell us what to believe.

he asked the father to send his spirit.
 
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are they really separate? differing manifestations does not mean separate.

jesus did not leave us alone, with just a book and a bunch of learned men to tell us what to believe.

he asked the father to send his spirit.
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yep I know that, the Spirit changed our hearts (regenerates us) is our comforter and helper

and bible is just a book, I suppose then that what your saying is God was wasting His time giving His inspired word to be written down for us, since we The Holy Spirit in us?
 
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the holy spirit is not subservient to any one or any thing except the father. until we preach a gospel that recognizes this truth, we will be preaching a false gospel, one which leaves the believer in their sin.
 
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phil36 said:
yep I know that, the Spirit changed our hearts (regenerates us) is our comforter and helper

and bible is just a book, I suppose then that what your saying is God was wasting His time giving His inspired word to be written down for us, since we The Holy Spirit in us?
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nope, he wasted his time sending the teacher to us.
 
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VW said:
nope, he wasted his time sending the teacher to us.
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Im lost with that, what teacher? Christ, the Apostles?? I'm not picking you up clearly VW.
 
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