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Love559

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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys
 
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*gets out the popcorn, puts on 3d glasses. This is going to be good.
 
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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys
So, you rather engage in the old evolutionary stuff than deal with the God the Bible is about? Yeah? Really old hat and I know it won't get anywhere. This is just pretending like you care, as compared to really interested.
 

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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys
I noticed your profile has you as a christian.
Are you the kind that agrees to an offer and then asks questions later?
 

Dino246

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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys
Hello,
Thanks for being honest about your questions. Don't feel dumb for doubting, or for asking questions, but don't stop just because something doesn't immediately make sense to you. God is bigger than our doubts. With patient seeking and a humble attitude, you will find the answers.

Your profile says, 'Christian'. Ask God to reveal Himself to you through His word. Where something in the Bible doesn't make sense to you, note it and ask God to reveal His truth to you. He will; but on His schedule. :)

I'll offer a thought on one of your questions... does the Bible say that Cain and Abel had no sisters? Not all the details are given. Marrying between close relatives wasn't forbidden until much later, and there are good reasons for both the delay and the imposition of the restriction.

Also, let me encourage you to hold the 'proofs' of science lightly. Do a little searching on "phlogiston" to see how radically wrong 'science' can be. Also search out the scientific method, and consider whether 'science' is capable of 'proving' anything about the origin of life. :)
 

crossnote

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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys
Touching on the last one. Evolution is a 'theory' not a science. Which would you believe, one of man's theories or the God/man who was there in Spirit actively creating creation by His Word and giving proof of it thru His resurrection from the dead?
 
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jaybird88

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i love scientific theories. what about the universe expanding. for every action is a reaction, so what is this great expansion reacting to? I wonder that this mysterious "force" could be?
but of course most scientist avoid this topic like the plague, i wonder why!!!?
 
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pottersclay

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See there we go again blaming the monkeys......when will it end?
 
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So, you rather engage in the old evolutionary stuff than deal with the God the Bible is about? Yeah? Really old hat and I know it won't get anywhere. This is just pretending like you care, as compared to really interested.
Hmm... that's funny. The first thing i see her asking is questions about the bible. Yet you are saying she doesn't want to deal with the bible. How exactly does that work?

Perhaps the 'old evolutionary stuff' isn't old to her. I believe she may be a teenager. It's not old to me as i don't have many of those answers myself.
 

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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys

Some believe that God created other humans; “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”
(Genesis 1:27). So when Cain was banished, he went to the land of Nod and found a wife unrelated to himself (Genesis 4:16-17).

Many also believe that there was a first earth age prior to the one we're in. Its in that first world age that dinosaurs existed, but all were destroyed with the fall of Satan. Genesis 1 is therefore describing the reconstruction of an earth which become void.

And as noted, science proves nothing, evolution is as much a theory as creationism

 
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shebamo

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i know this is kind of dumb but i always get so confused with god's existance and sometimess even doubt him. the bible doesnt explain things too well and makes everything sound weird...! where did cains wife come from?! if adam and eve were the only ones on earth and cain and abel.... And when did dinisours exist if science proves they were on earth before humans!!!? and science also proves that humans come from an evolution of monkeys

Last time I checked evolution was still a theory. A pigs DNA is closer to humans than monkeys. No joke. Everything was on earth before humans. We were the last creation.

[h=1]Where did Cain get his wife?[/h] by Matt Slick
In Genesis 4:16-17 it says,
"Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden. [SUP]17[/SUP]And Cain had relations with his wife and she conceived, and gave birth to Enoch; and he built a city, and called the name of the city Enoch, after the name of his son."
Genesis tells us that Adam and Eve had two sons: Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel and was exiled by God. Then in Genesis 4:17, we read that Cain had relations with his wife. Where did Cain get his wife? The answer is simple: Cain married either his sister or a niece.
In Genesis 5:4, we see that Adam had other sons and daughters.
"This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. [SUP]2[/SUP]He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them Man in the day when they were created. [SUP]3[/SUP]When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. [SUP]4[/SUP]Then the days of Adam after he became the father of Seth were eight hundred years, and he had other sons and daughters. [SUP]5[/SUP]So all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years, and he died," (Gen. 5:1-5).
Since Adam lived 930 years (Gen. 5:5), having lots of children was not a problem. The Genesis account does not tell us about the order of the births, nor does it tell us how old they were when they took wives. It was the ancient custom to often extract relevant information (sometimes out of order) to emphasize a point. By having many children, it is certainly possible that there were many women around. This would mean that Cain married a sister, niece, a grand-niece, or some other relation, and their children had children, etc.
Of course at this point, questions about inbreeding and incest are raised. It was not a problem early on in the human race because the genetic line was so pure. It was only after many generations after the Fall of man into sin that genetic abnormalities began to appear. Therefore, the prohibition against incest was not proclaimed until much later (Lev. 18:6-18) when inbreeding started to become a problem.
 
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Can you prove he resurrected from the dead? Not trying to be offensive, but I believe it deserves a double standard. Also, you say evolution is a theory, I see it as fact, if you put a creature in different conditions over the course of time it will adapt, eventually over millions of years it will change to a different species. It is an observable science that can be seen through bones of our ancestors. Also I see most Christians still believe that evolution means we came from monkeys. That was what Charles Darwin thought when he first came up with it as a theory hundreds of years ago, through the years we now know that we did not come from monkeys, because if we did come from monkeys they would not exist today. We came from common ancestors of the monkey. Our plant is roughly 4.5 billion years old. This is enough time for creatures to change significantly due to adaptations to different climates, regions etc. If you pay attention you can see these adaptations happening as we speak, why are polar bears white? To blend in with the snow. Why can black bears climb trees? Because they live in forests. There are many more examples with all species of animals.
 
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Kaycie

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The bible says His invisible qualities are clearly seen in nature, so that man is without excuse.

The law not to marry a close relative was not in effect yet. Actually it was the opposite back then, God wanted Israelites to marry Israelites, not outlandish women- which created a big problem (the Nephalim). Abraham and Sarah had the same father. It was not until later that God said not to marry a close relative, and made the penalty punishable by disease and birth defects.
 

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through the years we now know that we did not come from monkeys, because if we did come from monkeys they would not exist today. We came from common ancestors of the monkey
This is the reason why evolution does not agree with scripture, for scripture states the following:

"Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Therefore, man could not have evolved from anything, as man was created in the image of God, after His likeness from day one, where evolution has all life crawling out of a primordial pool and evolving from there. Not only that, but if you will notice in the scripture above, mankind was given rule over the fish, birds, livestock, wild animals and all creatures. Mankind could not do that if he himself was apart of the evolution. Furthermore, if evolution was true, we would still be seeing all of the different stages of evolution for all life, yet we see not one.

To blend in with the snow. Why can black bears climb trees? Because they live in forests.
The same reason that Chameleons change color for camouflage, the same reason why Venus Fly traps have three trigger hairs that when tripped causes the trap to be sprung, the same reason that a Peacock has perfectly designed plumes to attract the female, etc., etc., etc., and that because God gave them all of those characteristics, not evolution.
 
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This is the reason why evolution does not agree with scripture, for scripture states the following:

"Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Therefore, man could not have evolved from anything, as man was created in the image of God, after His likeness from day one, where evolution has all life crawling out of a primordial pool and evolving from there. Not only that, but if you will notice in the scripture above, mankind was given rule over the fish, birds, livestock, wild animals and all creatures. Mankind could not do that if he himself was apart of the evolution. Furthermore, if evolution was true, we would still be seeing all of the different stages of evolution for all life, yet we see not one.



The same reason that Chameleons change color for camouflage, the same reason why Venus Fly traps have three trigger hairs that when tripped causes the trap to be sprung, the same reason that a Peacock has perfectly designed plumes to attract the female, etc., etc., etc., and that because God gave them all of those characteristics, not evolution.
Those are adapted qualities that the creatures have gotten on their own from so much time of living on an island. If you want examples of adaptations look no further than the dog. The dog was originally used for hunting purposes. Once people were able to settle they began to breed dogs in different ways. Manipulating their adaptations to make them cute, big, hairy, small. Evolution isn't turning from a fish to a human from one night to the next. It is small adaptations like being cute, big, hair, small that add up over millions and millions of years to create a new species. Why do you think animals go extinct? If they can not adapt to survive, they die. That is life, and there are many Christians I have met that believe evolution, it's just ridiculous to say it didn't happen.
 
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This is the reason why evolution does not agree with scripture, for scripture states the following:

"Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

Therefore, man could not have evolved from anything, as man was created in the image of God, after His likeness from day one, where evolution has all life crawling out of a primordial pool and evolving from there. Not only that, but if you will notice in the scripture above, mankind was given rule over the fish, birds, livestock, wild animals and all creatures. Mankind could not do that if he himself was apart of the evolution. Furthermore, if evolution was true, we would still be seeing all of the different stages of evolution for all life, yet we see not one.



The same reason that Chameleons change color for camouflage, the same reason why Venus Fly traps have three trigger hairs that when tripped causes the trap to be sprung, the same reason that a Peacock has perfectly designed plumes to attract the female, etc., etc., etc., and that because God gave them all of those characteristics, not evolution.
You could even tap evolution into your bible if you really wanted, what is one day to God? Maybe its millions of years. In the beginning there was nothing, just like in evolution, then came the heavens and the skies, just like in evolution, animals were here before man, and you could say that when God created the first intelligent being through the millions of years of animals that were before him, that was man.
 

Ahwatukee

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You could even tap evolution into your bible if you really wanted, what is one day to God? Maybe its millions of years.

No, you can't and that because, God created us in his image, after his likeness. That would disqualify us starting out as amino acid. Also, regarding what a day is, Jesus revealed it:

"Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours of daylight?"

Also, before he took on flesh, during the six days of creation, after each day he said,

1st day: And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day

2nd day: And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

3rd day: And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And the same goes for the rest of the days of creation. Now since evening and morning made up each new day and Jesus said that there were 12 hours of daylight, I'm pretty positive that a day wasn't millions of years in length.
 
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You could even tap evolution into your bible if you really wanted, what is one day to God? Maybe its millions of years.

No, you can't and that because, God created us in his image, after his likeness. That would disqualify us starting out as amino acid. Also, regarding what a day is, Jesus revealed it:

"Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours of daylight?"

Also, before he took on flesh, during the six days of creation, after each day he said,

1st day: And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day

2nd day: And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

3rd day: And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

And the same goes for the rest of the days of creation. Now since evening and morning made up each new day and Jesus said that there were 12 hours of daylight, I'm pretty positive that a day wasn't millions of years in length.
I don't believe any of this, just giving you suggestions, but if you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, that is unbelievable.
 

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I don't believe any of this, just giving you suggestions, but if you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old, that is unbelievable.
I did not say the earth was 6,000 years old, however, I do believe that creation is 6,000 years old. The earth was already here when God began his creation. The actual creation of the earth is never mentioned as being apart of the six days. The fact is that, we have no idea how old the earth is. But one thing is for sure and that is that the earth was created first, as the planets, sun, moon and all the stars were created on the 4th day.
 
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I did not say the earth was 6,000 years old, however, I do believe that creation is 6,000 years old. The earth was already here when God began his creation. The actual creation of the earth is never mentioned as being apart of the six days. The fact is that, we have no idea how old the earth is. But one thing is for sure and that is that the earth was created first, as the planets, sun, moon and all the stars were created on the 4th day.
Oh my goodness. You can't be serious? So you seriously think that dinosaurs are only 6,000 years old? lol