Its simple. John 14:15 if you love Jesus you will obey Jesus. Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. 1 John 5:2-4 "By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith." The measure of your love is the measure of your obedience. How are you measuring up? Religious cowards refuse total obedience refusing to pay the cost to let Jesus flow through them. 2 timothy 3:5. The righteous are as bold as a lion. Pray and Ask Jesus for His divine opportunities to work the works of Him who sent you. Its not hard to obey.
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Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version(KJV)
8.)For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9.)Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10.)For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
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Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version(KJV)
8.)For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9.)Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10.)For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
C
I'm writing a book that proves the opposite.
Works won't get you to heaven.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. (Romans 11:16)
If you have works then grace is no more grace and you don't have God's grace to get to heaven.
Works won't get you to heaven.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. (Romans 11:16)
If you have works then grace is no more grace and you don't have God's grace to get to heaven.
The word works = effort/s
Efforts are firstly, INTERNAL, bY Faith (the substance of things hoped for.....Evidence, of things not seen (meaning internal)....THEN......external, according to one's faith. Meaning, when one's faith increases internally, external works should increase.
Elstwise, why would God say,"My Children honor (faith) me with their lips, but their hearts (efforts) are far away from Me."
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'faith without works is dead'
How many times does this get taken out of context!
This verse in James 2 Is surrounded by other verses about people doing acts of service. This is a response out of already being given eternal life.
It is NOT the means by which someone is given eternal life!
Faith without works is a faith with no action.. Dead in the sense of lifeless.
NOT dead in the sense of 'never had it to begin with' or 'lost...no more eternal life'
The James 2 chapter isnt about that. It is what people do with thier walk with Jesus. Does anyone really think Abraham was given eternal life by offering his son Isaac up to God? NO! Surely not! Abraham was justified in terms of eternal life earlier!
How many times does this get taken out of context!
This verse in James 2 Is surrounded by other verses about people doing acts of service. This is a response out of already being given eternal life.
It is NOT the means by which someone is given eternal life!
Faith without works is a faith with no action.. Dead in the sense of lifeless.
NOT dead in the sense of 'never had it to begin with' or 'lost...no more eternal life'
The James 2 chapter isnt about that. It is what people do with thier walk with Jesus. Does anyone really think Abraham was given eternal life by offering his son Isaac up to God? NO! Surely not! Abraham was justified in terms of eternal life earlier!
With all do respect you should save the trees that your book would waste if your thinking that you can have faith without works and have that faith be the faith of God and that pleases Him. Hebrews 11:6. Besides it would be a contradiction to write a book on grace. Writing a book takes a lot of work.
C
The devil works too and has workers of iniquity. Are they saved?
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Didn't the workers of iniquity do many wonderful works? Then you can't prove you are saved by works.
Would you like to condemn Mary who sat at Jesus' feet and didn't work?
Luke 10:39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
Luke 10:40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
Luke 10:41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
Luke 10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Mary didn't help her sister Martha by working but instead she sat all the time at Jesus' feet.
The workers of iniquity had works. They didn't go to heaven. Mary didn't have works and she got to sit and Jesus' feet.
Have something constructive to say because if you don't know what I'm going to say then you can't win an argument.
Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Didn't the workers of iniquity do many wonderful works? Then you can't prove you are saved by works.
Would you like to condemn Mary who sat at Jesus' feet and didn't work?
Luke 10:39 And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
Luke 10:40 But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
Luke 10:41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
Luke 10:42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.
Mary didn't help her sister Martha by working but instead she sat all the time at Jesus' feet.
The workers of iniquity had works. They didn't go to heaven. Mary didn't have works and she got to sit and Jesus' feet.
Have something constructive to say because if you don't know what I'm going to say then you can't win an argument.
C
I'm sure they worked by bringing sacrifices to God which took a lot of work and getting ready for the feast took a lot of work but their hearts weren't towards God.
I can work all my life for God and all it creates is body odor. People can still reject God because they don't care that I work. You are describing an exercise and still people aren't saved or born again or have their hearts towards God. I've been insulted by Catholics who promote cursing at Christians and violence as in "punch a heretic day" and they think that they are going to heaven when they hate their fellow man.
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15
James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
I've seen the iniquity of the people who work that hate their brother and works aren't making the inside of their hearts clean. They've shown me according to 1 John 3:15 that they have no eternal life in them.
I can give part two of the arguments.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; -Titus 1:7
Must wonder why Catholic bishops can promote "Punch a Heretic Day" when Paul says they can't be a striker.
They have friends or relatives on other forums who come out like trolls only to protect false doctrine and yet few Christians will stand up for the truth.
I can work all my life for God and all it creates is body odor. People can still reject God because they don't care that I work. You are describing an exercise and still people aren't saved or born again or have their hearts towards God. I've been insulted by Catholics who promote cursing at Christians and violence as in "punch a heretic day" and they think that they are going to heaven when they hate their fellow man.
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15
James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
I've seen the iniquity of the people who work that hate their brother and works aren't making the inside of their hearts clean. They've shown me according to 1 John 3:15 that they have no eternal life in them.
I can give part two of the arguments.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; -Titus 1:7
Must wonder why Catholic bishops can promote "Punch a Heretic Day" when Paul says they can't be a striker.
They have friends or relatives on other forums who come out like trolls only to protect false doctrine and yet few Christians will stand up for the truth.
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Bible gateway.com type in "works"
Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.
Matthew 16:27
For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works.
John 5:20
For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greaterworks than these, that you may marvel.
Ephesians 2:10
For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
1 Timothy 5:25
Likewise, the good works of some are clearly evident, and those that are otherwise cannot be hidden.
Titus 2:7
in all things showing yourself to be a pattern of goodworks; in doctrine showing integrity, reverence, incorruptibility,
Titus 2:14
who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works.
Titus 3:8
This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men.
Titus 3:14
And let our people also learn to maintain good works, tomeet urgent needs, that they may not be unfruitful.
Revelation 2:2
“I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars;
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I have 3Keys2Kingdom,
Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Both Bishop J.C. Ryle and I translate "poor in spirit" as spiritually bankrupt. Jesus says to the poor in spirit that theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Do I have to be rich in works to go to heaven or do you believe Jesus that the spiritually bankrupt will enter heaven? And think about the Publican and the sinner in that context. Who is going to heaven? The unrepentant Catholic who promotes "Punch a Heretic Day" or calls me by profanity because he works? No.
Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Both Bishop J.C. Ryle and I translate "poor in spirit" as spiritually bankrupt. Jesus says to the poor in spirit that theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Do I have to be rich in works to go to heaven or do you believe Jesus that the spiritually bankrupt will enter heaven? And think about the Publican and the sinner in that context. Who is going to heaven? The unrepentant Catholic who promotes "Punch a Heretic Day" or calls me by profanity because he works? No.
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C
Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
You have to do what for burnt offerings? You have to work or offer your animal.
Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
God wants mercy and not sacrifice (something you work for). According to Hosea 6:6, the knowledge of God (believing) is more important than working (burnt offerings).
And why would we condemn the guiltless? Because the ones guilty before God in their hearts looked better with wonderful works than the guiltless who didn't have works.
Matthew 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
A gift would be considered a work. God cares more about your heart and being reconciled to your brother because these works don't prove you've changed.
You have to do what for burnt offerings? You have to work or offer your animal.
Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
God wants mercy and not sacrifice (something you work for). According to Hosea 6:6, the knowledge of God (believing) is more important than working (burnt offerings).
And why would we condemn the guiltless? Because the ones guilty before God in their hearts looked better with wonderful works than the guiltless who didn't have works.
Matthew 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
A gift would be considered a work. God cares more about your heart and being reconciled to your brother because these works don't prove you've changed.
C
I read the OP and it was a bunch of verses thrown together without proof that it was in context and no one except God or the anti-Christ will raise the dead today. I think we need something more professional and polished so that we can understand better.
The law of sinning and reaping has not been repealed and since no one can work enough to keep from dying, salvation is not about works.
The law of sinning and reaping has not been repealed and since no one can work enough to keep from dying, salvation is not about works.
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