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JesusIsAll

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This thread isn't about rapture debates, not about repeating those same threads anybody can search out. It's not about soliciting your comments, post-tribbers, or any comments, rather a warning, take it or leave it.

A few days ago I saw where somebody had said it doesn't matter what you believe about the rapture, have heard this many times before. This could very well be true for some. On the other hand, when one has a stand that's not rooted in naive ignorance, that fails to acknowledge certain scripture truths, rejects and tries to teach against these truths to others, here is a real quandary for you post-tribbers:

Luke 21:34-36 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

With respect to the time of Jacob's trouble, the believer is told to pray to escape these things, to be worthy of escaping these things. If the believer in these things and that escape is to pray to be worthy to escape, what can be said of one who doesn't believe there is any escape? As a matter of fact, one who teaches people not to be ready to meet the Lord in the air, at any time, at all, but rather to look for the antichrist to appear, denies there's any escape to pray for? So, if commanded to pray to be worthy, where does one stand, who doesn't even believe in that escape? You certainly can't pray to escape, and unbelief seems a whole lot of rungs below any issue of worthiness.

You like the tribulation period? By all indications, you'll get your wish, may pay a very heavy price for your trifling with truth, denying the blessed hope of the coming of the Lord Jesus for His bride on message boards.

Just a thought, since you can't pray to be worthy to escape the tribulation, by all indications you are, therefore, fresh out of luck. And I don't believe in luck, any more than your post-tribulation false prophecy and exegetical incompetence.
 
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Rev. Ike never taught me 'bout 'scapin. He sez it's reel good down hyar. :confused:

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Bwahahahaha *makes some popcorn*
This should be good.

For the record, a pre-tribulational harpadzo is not escapism contrary to what many may believe.
 
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JesusIsAll

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From the Catechism of the Bishop Apostle Frederick J. Eikerenkoetter II:

Ike 6:66, And I heard a voice, rising from the sea of crinkling dollars, "Told you not ta' pack no sweater, sucka!"
 
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JesusIsAll

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Rev. Ike never taught me 'bout 'scapin. He sez it's reel good down hyar. :confused:
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Had to blow this up to a larger size, to reveal his gospel in all its glory.

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JesusIsAll said:

This thread isn't about rapture debates, not about repeating those same threads anybody can search out. It's not about soliciting your comments, post-tribbers, or any comments, rather a warning, take it or leave it.

A few days ago I saw where somebody had said it doesn't matter what you believe about the rapture, have heard this many times before. This could very well be true for some. On the other hand, when one has a stand that's not rooted in naive ignorance, that fails to acknowledge certain scripture truths, rejects and tries to teach against these truths to others, here is a real quandary for you post-tribbers:

Luke 21:34-36 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

With respect to the time of Jacob's trouble, the believer is told to pray to escape these things, to be worthy of escaping these things. If the believer in these things and that escape is to pray to be worthy to escape, what can be said of one who doesn't believe there is any escape? As a matter of fact, one who teaches people not to be ready to meet the Lord in the air, at any time, at all, but rather to look for the antichrist to appear, denies there's any escape to pray for? So, if commanded to pray to be worthy, where does one stand, who doesn't even believe in that escape? You certainly can't pray to escape, and unbelief seems a whole lot of rungs below any issue of worthiness.

You like the tribulation period? By all indications, you'll get your wish, may pay a very heavy price for your trifling with truth, denying the blessed hope of the coming of the Lord Jesus for His bride on message boards.

Just a thought, since you can't pray to be worthy to escape the tribulation, by all indications you are, therefore, fresh out of luck. And I don't believe in luck, any more than your post-tribulation false prophecy and exegetical incompetence.
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I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me. You want to warn about something but you want no reactions? Wouldn't blogging it somewhere and not allowing comments work better than posting on this board? Particularly, this board?

As trying to escape goes, it's talking about not lazying back. If it was a terrible thing to be caught up in it, (which in itself is an oxymoron since "rapture" means "caught up"), then this scripture means the ones stuck during the catching up aren't worthy to escape. Not a problem for me. None of us are worthy. Particularly something big to consider considering hundreds of thousands of the people who read that letter in the early days of the church found themselves in that very spot, and knew they would stand in front of Jesus right after death and be judged according to HIS worthiness.

Like I said, this post makes no sense. You honestly thought no one would respond just because you're warning some folks about something that you never explained what it was to warn about?

I spent a decade or so in churches that preached rapture. Then I went on to find churches that preached God. Even if rapture as described by 19th and 20th century creations was true, it still doesn't matter. We can't do anything about it. God, on the other hand, is well worth devoting our lives to.
 
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NarrowRoadDisciple said:
Bwahahahaha *makes some popcorn*
This should be good.

For the record, a pre-tribulational harpadzo is not escapism contrary to what many may believe.
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You hear that, as if it never dawns on them that we believe it, because it's what the Bible teaches. If the Bible said we must be skewered or something, then I'd believe that. Nothing in the Bible is up to us, not one word of God's to our order or thinking.
 
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JesusIsAll

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I'm sorry, but this makes no sense to me.
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I'll make an exception, then, and not force you to believe it. But just you, and just this once!
 
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What difference does it make if the Rapture is Pretrib, Posttrib, or midtrib?

What we need to realize God is there for us. Look at the Prophets, the Apostles, the great men of God. They were killed because of what they taught and believed. To be absent from the body is to be with God!

So why are people so afraid of the Rapture occurring at the end instead of the beginning? Do you not know God is there for us?
 
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JesusIsAll

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KenAllan said:
What difference does it make if the Rapture is Pretrib, Posttrib, or midtrib?

What we need to realize God is there for us. Look at the Prophets, the Apostles, the great men of God. They were killed because of what they taught and believed. To be absent from the body is to be with God!

So why are people so afraid of the Rapture occurring at the end instead of the beginning? Do you not know God is there for us?
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You could make the same argument what difference any scripture truths make, then. Let's just throw out everything we can't understand or isn't worth trolling message boards over. Tear pages from the Bible. Again, this isn't a rapture debate, at least not my intent, you all do what you please: it's a free country. Against, see post #8. It has nothing to do with fear. This thread has to do with people who are not praying to escape all these things, in disobedience to the Lord, are also false prophets, which has consequences. God is not mocked, and some people should perhaps be warned of this.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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KenAllan said:
What difference does it make if the Rapture is Pretrib, Posttrib, or midtrib?

What we need to realize God is there for us. Look at the Prophets, the Apostles, the great men of God. They were killed because of what they taught and believed. To be absent from the body is to be with God!

So why are people so afraid of the Rapture occurring at the end instead of the beginning? Do you not know God is there for us?
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that's pretty sarcastic to assume people are afraid, who is afraid?

We just want to interpret the word right..

If we are all wrong. we will still trust God.. As should everyone.
 
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You can't pray that you are worthy to escape it if you don't believe it, but when He suddenly came the one that was busy doing His work was taken. I think those that don't believe it but are ready will be raptured. I used to spend all my days on rapture ready and such sites because I was depressed and wanted to escape the marriage I was in. Don't think that will do to get raptured.
 
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3Scoreand10

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JesusIsAll said:

This thread isn't about rapture debates, not about repeating those same threads anybody can search out. It's not about soliciting your comments, post-tribbers, or any comments, rather a warning, take it or leave it.

A few days ago I saw where somebody had said it doesn't matter what you believe about the rapture, have heard this many times before. This could very well be true for some. On the other hand, when one has a stand that's not rooted in naive ignorance, that fails to acknowledge certain scripture truths, rejects and tries to teach against these truths to others, here is a real quandary for you post-tribbers:

Luke 21:34-36 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

With respect to the time of Jacob's trouble, the believer is told to pray to escape these things, to be worthy of escaping these things. If the believer in these things and that escape is to pray to be worthy to escape, what can be said of one who doesn't believe there is any escape? As a matter of fact, one who teaches people not to be ready to meet the Lord in the air, at any time, at all, but rather to look for the antichrist to appear, denies there's any escape to pray for? So, if commanded to pray to be worthy, where does one stand, who doesn't even believe in that escape? You certainly can't pray to escape, and unbelief seems a whole lot of rungs below any issue of worthiness.

You like the tribulation period? By all indications, you'll get your wish, may pay a very heavy price for your trifling with truth, denying the blessed hope of the coming of the Lord Jesus for His bride on message boards.

Just a thought, since you can't pray to be worthy to escape the tribulation, by all indications you are, therefore, fresh out of luck. And I don't believe in luck, any more than your post-tribulation false prophecy and exegetical incompetence.
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Just a few things to consider.

The early churches suffer much tribulation, even as late as 500 years ago.
They suffered even though they were very dedicated even in the face of death.
Most who claim to be Christians, and most churches today are not worthy to wash the feet of those early churches and believers.
Lets be honest. Are any of us worth to escape tribulation.
And IF you are wrong, would it not be better to encourage everyone to grow in their faith, become closer to God, and just trust that He will protect you and bring you through to see Him cone in His glory or if you must die you would die as those great saints did in the past.

While you pray you are worthy to escape, I pray that I might be worthy to endure till the end and see His coming.
 
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3Scoreand10 said:
While you pray you are worthy to escape, I pray that I might be worthy to endure till the end and see His coming.
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That would take a greater worthiness than what Jesus told the disciples to pray for since what is coming is greater than anything before.

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
(Mat 24:21)
 
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Lost_sheep

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So, am I supposed to bring my tomato plants inside or not? That is the thing I really want to know. Do I need to put extra food out for the cat, or am I going to be eating the cat very soon?

All this pre/post trib debate makes my head hurt. Did I buy too much dried food and ammo, or did I not buy enough????
 
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3Scoreand10

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That would take a greater worthiness than what Jesus told the disciples to pray for since what is coming is greater than anything before.

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
(Mat 24:21)
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I should have made that more clear.
I believe that our gathering together with Him and His second coming are the same event at the seventh trump.
With that said, I pray I would be worthy to endure until the end.
Another thing.Why do believe we will escape when Thousands of Belivers are suffering tribulation and death every day.
Are we that much better, more rightious than they are?
 
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3Scoreand10 said:
Just a few things to consider.

The early churches suffer much tribulation, even as late as 500 years ago.
They suffered even though they were very dedicated even in the face of death.
Most who claim to be Christians, and most churches today are not worthy to wash the feet of those early churches and believers.
Lets be honest. Are any of us worth to escape tribulation.
And IF you are wrong, would it not be better to encourage everyone to grow in their faith, become closer to God, and just trust that He will protect you and bring you through to see Him cone in His glory or if you must die you would die as those great saints did in the past.

While you pray you are worthy to escape, I pray that I might be worthy to endure till the end and see His coming.
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While I understand most of your point, we are to be ready, at all times. This is constant, living preparation. Also, you're talking worthy to endure, fine sentiments, but the Lord Jesus said to pray to be worthy of escape. There's nothing IF in any of this to my mind, and so many Reformed theological giants in agreement, down the ages, who probably forgot more theology than I know. Again, post #8. The pre-tribulation rapture is taught in the Bible. It's not about me, or you. People teaching against Bible truths, who can't even pray what the Lord Jesus commanded we pray, need serious warning.
 
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