Will men be sent to hell because they haven't heard about Jesus?

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[h=2]Will men be sent to hell because they haven't heard about Jesus?[/h]No, they will be sent to hell because they are sinners.
 
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Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
 

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Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Jesus said that men are condemned because they choose condemnation over life.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. {reproved: or, discovered}
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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Jesus said that men are condemned because they choose condemnation over life.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. {reproved: or, discovered}
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

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No doubt Jesus is the Light of the world, but I believe her question was this....."Will men be sent to hell because they haven't heard about Jesus?"
 
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No.., only the ones that had ignored them.
 
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John 9:41 Jesus said, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.
 
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The story is told of a man who was born and raised in a little village deep in the tropical forest. All of those he lived among worshiped the trees which provided most of their sustenance. But this man would privately think to himself, but where do the trees come from? I want to know the one who made the trees. Many thousands of miles away God was placing upon the heart of a missionary the desire to go and tell others about Jesus.

He was led to the man's little village in the forest……...
 

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I believe that the Holy Spirit woos ALL mankind, even those that missionaries haven't reached. And there is a 'time of accountability' (some call it age of accountability but it's not really any set age): John 9:41 Jesus said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains".

It's the point at which you claim to know one way or the other that you become accountable.
 

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No doubt Jesus is the Light of the world, but I believe her question was this....."Will men be sent to hell because they haven't heard about Jesus?"
No. They will be sent to hell because they are sinners. Men who have not heard the gospel are already lost but never hearing the gospel or rejecting the gospel will keep them lost.
 
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Of course not. what matters is if you are a child of God. if you are a child of God but for example you are in a country where non christian religions are practiced mainly or you were misled into following other religions by your parents or your non christian country then as long as you are a child of God and you have a clean heart then you will not be sent to hell. but if you have heard of the gospel and yet you reject it, then you will be sent to hell
 

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Hell is the grave. We all go there!

(1) The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means "the grave" not "hell." Everyone went to Sheol when they died, not just the wicked. Sheol was not a place of suffering, because in Job 14:13, a much-beset Job asked to go to Sheol to escape suffering. Sheol was not a place where God was absent, because King David said in Psalm 139:8 that when he made his bed in Sheol (i.e., when he died and was laid in his grave), God would be with him. And Sheol was not an eternal inescapable prison, because in Psalm 49:15 the Sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol, by which they meant that they would be resurrected from the grave to new life. Furthermore, the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved, and yet in Genesis 37:35, Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in "hell"? In each case Sheol clearly means "the grave" or "the abode of all the dead, good and bad" and cannot be interpreted as "hell" unless "hell" is heaven!

(2) The Greek word Hades also clearly means "the grave" not "hell." Everyone went to Hades when they died, not just the wicked. Hades contained heavenly regions like the Elysian Fields and the Blessed Isles. The Greek hell was Tartarus, which is discussed below, in section 4.

(3) The place name Gehenna does not mean "hell" because Gehenna is a valley in Israel known in Hebrew as Gehinnom, or the Valley of Hinnom. Today Gehenna is a lovely park and tourist attraction. Wonderful archeological discoveries have been made there, such as the healing pool of Siloam and the oldest Bible verses ever discovered, inscribed on small silver amulets. Those verses are the benediction "The LORD bless thee and keep thee; the LORD make his countenance to shine upon thee and be gracious unto thee." Those are wonderfully comforting words to have been discovered in "hell," don't you think?

(4) The Greek hell was Tartarus. This is the only word in the Bible that actually means "hell" in either Greek or Hebrew. But the word Tartarus appears only one time in the entire Bible, in 2 Peter 2:4. And that verse is about fallen angels awaiting judgment, so its hell is not eternal and is not for human beings.


How many times is hell mentioned in the Bible?
 
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And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
 
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another awesome explanation from walter martin about this subject the lord bless you all settled
God is just. A person isn’t going to go to hell for something he has no control over.
 
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Hell is the grave. We all go there!

(1) The Hebrew word Sheol clearly means "the grave" not "hell." Everyone went to Sheol when they died, not just the wicked. Sheol was not a place of suffering, because in Job 14:13, a much-beset Job asked to go to Sheol to escape suffering. Sheol was not a place where God was absent, because King David said in Psalm 139:8 that when he made his bed in Sheol (i.e., when he died and was laid in his grave), God would be with him. And Sheol was not an eternal inescapable prison, because in Psalm 49:15 the Sons of Korah said that God would redeem them from Sheol, by which they meant that they would be resurrected from the grave to new life. Furthermore, the prophet Ezekiel and the apostle Paul agreed that all Israel would be saved, and yet in Genesis 37:35, Israel himself said that he would be reunited with his son Joseph in Sheol. How can all Israel be saved if Israel himself is in "hell"? In each case Sheol clearly means "the grave" or "the abode of all the dead, good and bad" and cannot be interpreted as "hell" unless "hell" is heaven!
"For You will not leave my soul in Sheol,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
(Psalm 16:10)


The same verse is quoted by Peter so sheol and hades are used interchangeably:


"For You will not leave my soul in Hades,
Nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption."
(Acts 2:27)


There are two problems with the idea that we stay in the grave when we die. The first one is (1):


'Therefore He says:
"When He ascended on high,
He led captivity captive,
And gave gifts to men."
(Now this, "He ascended"-what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?"
(Ephesians 4:8-9)


The second one is:


"...absent from the body...present with the Lord."
(2 Corinthians 5:8)


The previous verse in Ephesians 4:8-9 says that He (Jesus) ascended.


We can't be in the grave if Jesus ascended because we're supposed to be absent from the body which is asleep in the grave and we're supposed to be present with the Lord who ascended. Some have tried to accomodoate the idea that the compartment called Abraham's bosom was God's throne room.


A-2 Noun Strong's Number: g161 Greek: aichmalosia
Captive, Captivity:


"captivity," the abstract noun in contrast to No. 1, the concrete, is found in Rev 13:10; Eph 4:8, where "He led captivity captive" (marg., "a multitude of captives") seems to be an allusion to the triumphal procession by which a victory was celebrated, the "captives" taken forming part of the procession. See Jdg 5:12. The quotation is from Psa 68:18, and probably is a forceful expression for Christ's victory, through His Death, over the hostile powers of darkness. An alternative suggestion is that at His Ascension Christ transferred the redeemed Old Testament saints from Sheol to His own presence in glory.
-Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words

Hell in the old testament (H7585) is transliterated Sheowl and it means the grave. Hell is eternal but the grave is thought of as the earth. The earth's crust is probably 2 to 20 miles deep and we know with volcanoes what is underneath. The first earth will be passed away so there will be need of a new hell. Whether you interpret it to be a new hell or Gehenna, the problem is that the term "passed away" (g3928 παρέρχομαι parerchomai) indicates "to perish":


Revelation 21:1 ¶ And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.


Hell is eternal as we will see but Jesus said "I am alive forevermore" and they are the same words translated "forever and ever". If some versions translate God as everlasting then you have no choice but to translate hell as being everlasting because the different translations use the same words for both hell and God. Since the old heavens and the earth will pass away, the old location of hell will be passed away or thrown into the new location which is the lake of fire.


Jesus said,"I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore [eis tous aionas ton aionon] (Rev. 1:17-18, NASB).


Revelation 20:10: "And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever [eis tous aionas ton aionon]."


Not one of these translations translates "aionion" as anything other than "eternal" or similar.


Matthew 25:41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.


Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.


Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Death and hell delivered up the dead. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire indicating that it isn't the same location.


Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


The people in hell were then cast into the lake of fire indicating a different position. Therefore hell is a concept using different places.

"Verse 5: 'But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.'


"The 'resurrection of the just' is mentioned in Luke 14:13-14, and the 'resurrection of life' is definitely distinguished from the 'resurrection unto damnation' in John 5:29. Here in Revelation 20:5 we learn for the first time the interval that separates the two resurrections: One thousand years. When Jesus comes in the Rapture, only the righteous will be raised (I Thess. 4:13:18).


"When He comes in the end of the ages, only the wicked will be raised and will appear before the great White Throne to be judged. The doctrine of a general resurrection- a time when the good and bad, just and unjust are raised-is certainly disproved by this text. In John 5:28-29 we read, 'Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice, and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

-p.487, The Revelation, Verse by Verse Study, The Gospel Hour, Inc., Dr. Oliver B. Green.




 
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People have no idea that they are going to hell except it is in their prophets which mirrors the book of Revelation:

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Ezekiel 32:27 And they shall not lie with the mighty that are fallen of the uncircumcised, which are gone down to hell with their weapons of war: and they have laid their swords under their heads, but their iniquities shall be upon their bones, though they were the terror of the mighty in the land of the living.

Ezekiel 32:31 ¶ Pharaoh shall see them, and shall be comforted over all his multitude, even Pharaoh and all his army slain by the sword, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 32:32 For I have caused my terror in the land of the living: and he shall be laid in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that are slain with the sword, even Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.

Pharaoh is in hell with all the slain.
The word 'hell' does not appear anywhere in Tanach. If it does it's not a Tanach.[END Quote]
You're right because it wasn't revealed but if you drill down far enough, you might find what is in volcanoes.

But the word "pit" is used in Ezekiel 32:32 and it is speaking about a dungeon.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

1. aversion, abhorrence

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon

If it wasn't hell, there would be nothing of abhorrence for.
Man is compared to an undying worm whose fire is not quenched.

Isaiah 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Poor people are going to hell and they have no idea because no one explained it to them.
 
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I've been reading "Word Studies in the Greek New Testament" (Volume III) by Dr. Kenneth Wuest who was one of the NASB translators and was also a professor of Greek.

He quotes Moulton and Milligan's "Vocabulary of the Greek Testament", Grimm-Thayer, Webster's International Dictionary, Biblico-Theological Lexicon of New Testament Gree, by Herman Cremer, D.D., the LXX, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament by Joseph Henry Thayer, D.D., Liddell and Scott's Greek-English Lexicon (classical).

Wuest says
"Matthew 25:41 tells us that this everlasting fire is prepared for the devil and his angels. The word 'prepared' in the Greek is in the perfect tense, which tense speaks of a past complete action that has present results."-p.40 (second section of books bundled together in one book)

Wuest also writes "As to Mark 3:29, the best Greek texts have 'sin' instead of 'damnation,' which latter word appears in the A.V., as translation of a Greek word meaning 'judgment," and which is a rejected reading. The words 'in danger of' are from a Greek word which refers to anyone 'held in anything so that he cannot escape.' Thus the one who committed the sin referred to in this passage in the grasp of an eternal sin, the sin being eternal, not in the sense of eternally repeating itself, but in that it is eternal in its guilt. Such a sin demands eternal punishment. In II Thessalonians 1:9 we have 'everlasting destruction.' The Greek word translated 'destruction' does not mean 'annihilation.' Moulton and Milligan define its first century Biblical usage as follows: 'ruin, the loss of all that gives worth to existence.' Thayer in his lexicon gives the meanings 'ruin, destruction, death.' The word comes from the verb meaning 'to destroy.' But to destroy something does not mean to put it out of existence, but to ruin it, to reduce it to such form that it loses all that gave worth to its existence. One may burn down a beautiful mansion. The materials which composed it are still in existence, a heap of ashes, but it is in such form that it has lost all that gave worth to its existence as a mansion. The eternal condition in which the soul lives forever in a state devoid of all that makes existence worthwhile."
-p. 41
 
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Is hell conscious, continual, eternal punishment?

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Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush [was] not consumed.
Exodus 3:3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.


Just as God appeared in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush and the bush wasn't consumed, the same thing can happen to human souls with this fire.

New Living Translation
For our God is a devouring fire.
Hebrews 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire."
 

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If this is true, why tell anyone about Jesus? Let the whole world be ignorant and everyone goes to heaven.

God is just. A person isn’t going to go to hell for something he has no control over.