Is it a sin for Christians to spend the American one dollar bill?

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Twenties and fifties will be fine. Uh, let's see, one hundred thousand divided by fifty equals... 2,000. So, ah, I guess I'll have one thousand nine hundred and ninety fifties, please, and that would leave five hundred dollars in twenties, so, uh, twenty five twenty dollar bills. Yes, I'll wait :)
I asked, because with that gold certificate you should only accept gold. :)
 
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Gr8grace

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I know I am not supposed to bite, but I can't help it.

I wonder how many "devil dollars" and American souls were spent to keep France from speaking German?
 
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Perhaps the shame of the United States is the placing of an occult symbol (the eye and pyramid) blatantly and brazenly in the one dollar bill.
Mark 12:13And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words. 14And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it. 16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him

Notice Jesus didn't curse the coin since it bore the image of a Roman Emperor, probably Tiberius, who carried on the bad habit of Julius Caesar, believing he was a god. That technically made that coin an idol. The issue was unavoidable for Israel, being ruled by Rome, having to deal in Roman currency. Rome taxed Israel and especially their kings, accepting their money for paying taxes and tribute.

Jesus instructed them to pay what Rome demands, it being their property (as does also the US government owns the currency it issues), and submit what belongs to God. After taxes there was almost always some left over for a possessor of money to distribute for his own use. Two distributions were atop Jesus' list with a claim to wealth, Caesar and God. Not one Pharisee argued anything about that was wrong.

If our money offends you, if ever visiting here one can find free meals and lodging at homeless shelters (soup lines), and other sources, Some people grub American Ginger roots in the mountains and trade those for other items. In the West, where I am visiting on a contract, locals like to hunt valuable mushrooms. They can trade those with restaurants in exchange for frozen meat and other items. South of here you might dig some Fire Opals near Bend, OR, which will buy you lots of stuff. If you stay long enough you would probably end up having everything you need free anyway. But then boredom sets in, and you would likely change your mind about the money images, wanting to enjoy non-essentials.
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus teaches to render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's. US currency belongs to Caesar, and has nothing to do with our Father. If Caesar wishes to embrace belief in God, sobeit,; who are we to stop him
 
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pete13

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Mark 12:13And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words. 14And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not? 15Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it. 16And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. 17And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him

Notice Jesus didn't curse the coin since it bore the image of a Roman Emperor, probably Tiberius, who carried on the bad habit of Julius Caesar, believing he was a god. That technically made that coin an idol. The issue was unavoidable for Israel, being ruled by Rome, having to deal in Roman currency. Rome taxed Israel and especially their kings, accepting their money for paying taxes and tribute.

Jesus instructed them to pay what Rome demands, it being their property (as does also the US government owns the currency it issues), and submit what belongs to God. After taxes there was almost always some left over for a possessor of money to distribute for his own use. Two distributions were atop Jesus' list with a claim to wealth, Caesar and God. Not one Pharisee argued anything about that was wrong.

If our money offends you, if ever visiting here one can find free meals and lodging at homeless shelters (soup lines), and other sources, Some people grub American Ginger roots in the mountains and trade those for other items. In the West, where I am visiting on a contract, locals like to hunt valuable mushrooms. They can trade those with restaurants in exchange for frozen meat and other items. South of here you might dig some Fire Opals near Bend, OR, which will buy you lots of stuff. If you stay long enough you would probably end up having everything you need free anyway. But then boredom sets in, and you would likely change your mind about the money images, wanting to enjoy non-essentials.
You are wrong, when Jesus said “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's” he was referring to taxes, Caesar asked them to pay taxes, that was all. Also when Jesus said”Whose is this image and superscription? He was trying to imply that they should pay taxes to Caesar; he was not implying that they should tolerate an evil symbol on the national currency. The image of Caesar on the coin is acceptable because it is just an image of the Caesar, after all don’t you have George Washington’s image on the dollar bill? There’s nothing wrong with having images of leaders on the currency but how does that compare with placing an occult symbol like the eye and pyramid on the currency? Now what if the image on the coin was not of Caesar but of an evil image, will Jesus Christ have said that they should “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's”? Of course not because it is an evil symbol and Jesus will never tolerate that. And you clearly know this, so why are trying to use that bible quote as a pretext. My advice to American Christians is not to use the one dollar bill; you can ask for four quarters instead of using the one dollar bill, do not take change with one dollar bills, you can also use other notes other than the one dollar bill. You can even pay with your credit card. If you use the one dollar bill, you could be condoning evil.
You suggested using the barter system, thanks for that, if I ever decide to visit the USA I will hunt mushrooms and trade it for other foodstuffs. But note that I will rather starve to death than take food from an evil nation that blatantly, brazenly and illegally places occult symbols on its national currency. I may starve but my salvation will still be intact. The placing of the eye and pyramid on the one dollar bill is indeed the shame of America.
 

phil36

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Well all I can say is(and someone else has already said it), if you do not want your 'devil' dollars, send them to me...I'm sure I could put them to good use ;)
 

hornetguy

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I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but.....the OP's question is just crazy. Good grief...
(Walks away muttering...)
 

DP

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Perhaps the shame of the United States is the placing of an occult symbol (the eye and pyramid) blatantly and brazenly in the one dollar bill. I used to admire the United States since I grew up watching Hollywood movies. But after discovering that the country I admired so much will place such an occult symbol on its currency I don’t respect the United States anymore. But the question is, is it a sin for a Christian to spend the one dollar with the occult symbol on it? I believe it is because if a Christian clearly knows that the one dollar bill blatantly carries such an occult message and yet that Christ spends it, then that Christian will be committing a sin. By spending the one dollar bill you are condoning the occult message and this makes you sin. Also, why are Christians not doing anything about it? After all the United States claims to be home to Christians so why have they not done anything to fight against the placing of the occult message on the national currency. The placing of the occult symbol on the national currency is illegal as the government must not officially support any religion and occultism is a form of religion. So they decided to place in “God we trust” on the one dollar bill after they placed the occult symbol. Was this done to appease Christians? If that was the intention then they should have placed “in Jesus Christ we trust” instead of “in God we trust” because the term God can be used for other meanings.
It is a sad shame that the country I admired appear to be U.S.A, not as in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA but as in UNITED SATANISTS ASSOCIATION. Yet they call Islamists terrorists when they are Satanists themselves. To American Christians, al-Qaida, Isis, North Korea or Russia are not your enemy, the Satanists in your country appear to be your enemy.
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What is sad is that you really don't know what you're talking about, showing a lack of understanding about the Great Seal of The United States that was adopted by U.S. Congress in 1782... long BEFORE it ever appeared on American currency. The reverse side of the Great Seal has never been cut except much later in history when put on the U.S. one dollar bill.

Congress adopts the Great Seal of the United States - Jun 20, 1782 - HISTORY.com

Did you know there was a debate by the U.S. founders of what symbols to put on it, as some wanted symbols like Moses and the Red Sea parting?

GreatSeal.jpg

The 13 stars, olive branch leaves, and arrows, represent the original 13 American colonies. Same with the 13 layers of stones on the pyramid on the reverse side the Great Seal.

If you connect the 13 stars in the blue field with lines, it reveals the Star of David. The billowy border around the blue field of 13 stars represent God's Glory of the cloud manifested when leading the children of Israel in the wilderness.

Why a pyramid on the reverse side? Where was Jacob's son Joseph when he was exalted by Pharaoh to second in command?

How is it that many fail to recognize that since the addition of Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh as part of Israel, that means there are technically 13 tribes of Israel per God's Word?

Can you not figure this out per Bible prophecy?
 

Billyd

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I guess I'll just stick to plastic!