The "unworthy" coming to Christ

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Lost_sheep

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I place a disclaimer here at the beginning that what I am posting here is not by any means an exhaustive list, but these are verses I found in my studies tonight that helped to answer a lingering question in my mind, and I think that if somebody else out there is doubting their faith, that these verses might be of some help and comfort.

So the question "Am I worthy of salvation?". Might seem silly to some, but there are some of us who have never had much value to anyone. There are some of us who have never known love. There are some of us who have always felt alone, cast aside, and unworthy. If you cannot relate, I envy you. If you can relate, I commiserate with you.

Almost everyone, even non-Christians can give you at least a paraphrasing of John 3:16:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So I asked myself if there were other mentions I could find that talk about how ALL are worthy, and I came up with:

1 Timothy 2:3-6
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

2COR5:14-15
For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 4:10
Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.


As I said, not exhaustive, but I was able to find these pretty easily, and they really helped to provoke my mind. If ALL are worthy, then that means I am too. Likewise, it means that nobody is beyond salvation. That feels really good.
 

Samie

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Hi Lost_Sheep;

You are no longer lost; you have been found, just like anybody else. All died "in Christ" when Christ died.

NKJ 2 Corinthians 5:14-15 14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died; 15 and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again.

And just like Paul, we, too, can say:

KJV Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Being "in Christ" when He died, we were made alive TOGETHER with Him when He resurrected:

NAS Colossians 2:13 And when you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions

NKJ Ephesians 2:4-6 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus

And now that we are alive, we are enjoined to overcome evil with good (Rom 12:21), because overcomers will not be blotted out from the book of life (Rev 3:5).

NKJ Romans 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good

NKJ Revelation 3:5 "He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
 
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ladylynn

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I place a disclaimer here at the beginning that what I am posting here is not by any means an exhaustive list, but these are verses I found in my studies tonight that helped to answer a lingering question in my mind, and I think that if somebody else out there is doubting their faith, that these verses might be of some help and comfort.

So the question "Am I worthy of salvation?". Might seem silly to some, but there are some of us who have never had much value to anyone. There are some of us who have never known love. There are some of us who have always felt alone, cast aside, and unworthy. If you cannot relate, I envy you. If you can relate, I commiserate with you.

Almost everyone, even non-Christians can give you at least a paraphrasing of John 3:16:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

So I asked myself if there were other mentions I could find that talk about how ALL are worthy, and I came up with:

1 Timothy 2:3-6
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 Timothy 1:15
This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Titus 2:11
For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

2COR5:14-15
For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 4:10
Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.


As I said, not exhaustive, but I was able to find these pretty easily, and they really helped to provoke my mind. If ALL are worthy, then that means I am too. Likewise, it means that nobody is beyond salvation. That feels really good.


I learned from a young age that people love conditionally., even family members. But God loves us unconditionally.
:) Just as we are, the grace that Jesus brought insures us His love no matter what we may think of ourselves at times. Often we humans fight feelings of inferiority and un loveliness. It's part of being human I think. But He loves us according to "grace." unmerited unearned love and favor. Because of Jesus we are loved personally and have a relationship with God- who we can now call our Father....one on one with God our Father.

Heb.8:12 "For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more."

Back in the old covenant those who were maimed in any way could not go near God. Those who were not perfect had to stay away. But now under the new covenant of grace we can all come just as we are clothed in Jesus righteousness. God loved us so much He gave His Son for us.


This is a hard thing to understand but I believe it. "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:14-15 He went to the cross so that whoever believes in Him can receive the gift of eternal life. We inherit what was purchased for us with the blood of Jesus Christ.

Imputed righteousness from Christ. All our sins and failures were imputed to Christ on the cross and His righteousness was imputed to us. We are 100% fully loved and cared for now. Because we believed in Him and He saved us and transformed us.,we are now sons of God.

I've found out that it's when we forget that we have been cleansed from our old sins that we end up lacking in self control, godliness and brotherly love (even for ourselves). 2 Pet.1:5-9 So if we remember what Jesus has done for us and believe the right way we will end up living right....and "feeling" right.

Not only that., we have the gift of no condemnation. Romans 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.
:)
 

Samie

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We are "in Christ" BEFORE we receive Him. The act of receiving is proof that we are spiritually alive and are therefore "in Him" Who is our life (Col 3:4).
 
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secondtimearound

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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Rather inclusive.

So the question "Am I worthy of salvation?"
I would say "yes and no".

Your intrinsic value is probably somewhere around $0.58. But I would have to know more details about you and get an update on commodity prices. :eek:

But God, on the other hand, who not only owns everything in the universe, but owns the universe itself, gave His most valuable gift possible, His only begotten Son, in exchange for you. Knowing full well in advance that this meant a difficult life on earth, a mock trial, humiliation at the hands of his very own creation, beaten, spit upon, abused in a manner unfit for a dog and, ultimately crucified in the most horrendous manner imaginable.

So, you tell me... are you worthy of salvation? God seems to think so.
 

TMS

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Our righteousness is as filthy rages, we are all sinners, we are all fallen short of the glory of God, and God hates sin. It is because we are so unworthy and wretched that makes Gods love for us so much deeper. While we where yet sinners Christ died for us. If you are needing to FEEL worthy/good enough to come to Christ you won't. We need to come to Him by faith simply because He said come, trusting that He loves us and gave up everything for us. We can know our value and His value of us by the price He paid for each one of us. We arn't worthy of his Love but He loves us anyway.
 
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Lost_sheep

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I posted my original post because I was feeling pretty good. Leave it to a few of you to jump in with your rabble and tell me "sorry Jon, not good enough" and once again cast doubts into my mind. How about this - if you can't be supportive, how about keeping quiet? Smash your fingers with a hammer or something.

I'm dealing with enough doubts as it is, and I don't need you jackwagons putting up more roadblocks for me. So, go show off to someone else. Don't you need to go argue apologetics or be hateful to homosexuals or something?
 
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Lost_sheep

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Double post - Curious how it's always the "men" (and I use the term loosely) that want to jump into a thread tying to one-up me and each other. Can't you apes go grunt and scratch something or bug your spouses or something?
 
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coby

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We're all good enough for Him. He came to save sinners after all. Are you part of the world and part of the whoever?

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
 

blue_ladybug

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I posted my original post because I was feeling pretty good. Leave it to a few of you to jump in with your rabble and tell me "sorry Jon, not good enough" and once again cast doubts into my mind. How about this - if you can't be supportive, how about keeping quiet? Smash your fingers with a hammer or something.

I'm dealing with enough doubts as it is, and I don't need you jackwagons putting up more roadblocks for me. So, go show off to someone else. Don't you need to go argue apologetics or be hateful to homosexuals or something?
Double post - Curious how it's always the "men" (and I use the term loosely) that want to jump into a thread tying to one-up me and each other. Can't you apes go grunt and scratch something or bug your spouses or something?

Unless I'm missing something here, everyone's responses are fairly positive. So why are you being so hostile and insulting to them? :confused:
 

TMS

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I used to feel like you and still do sometimes but the thing that helped me the most was that i can't trust my feelings. Love is not a feeling and because it doesn't Change, like my feelings do. No one is worthy of salvation because then it wouldn't be a free gift but a earnt wage. None of the original verses you gave show us to be worthy but they all show us that God values us so much and wants to save us.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Instead oftorturing yourself on account of your sins, throw yourself into theRedeemer’s arms. Trust in Him.
 
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Lost_sheep

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Unless I'm missing something here, everyone's responses are fairly positive. So why are you being so hostile and insulting to them? :confused:
Go back through and re-read the replies. I don't see support. Instead of a "hey, good job!" I got bombarded by more and more "lessons" that I wasn't asking for. I was just looking for a little encouragement and support, but apparently that's in too short of supply. I wasn't expecting a ticker-tape parade, but a little more encouragement instead of more schooling is what I was looking for.

Every "christian" forums I've been a member of - it's the same thing. Bunch of people with more ego than faith bickering like a bunch of children on topics they aren't qualified to talk about, and can't show any support to people who need it and would rather act like juveniles and make passive-aggressive commentary like spineless cowards.

To hell with this place.
 
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coby

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Go back through and re-read the replies. I don't see support. Instead of a "hey, good job!" I got bombarded by more and more "lessons" that I wasn't asking for. I was just looking for a little encouragement and support, but apparently that's in too short of supply. I wasn't expecting a ticker-tape parade, but a little more encouragement instead of more schooling is what I was looking for.

Every "christian" forums I've been a member of - it's the same thing. Bunch of people with more ego than faith bickering like a bunch of children on topics they aren't qualified to talk about, and can't show any support to people who need it and would rather act like juveniles and make passive-aggressive commentary like spineless cowards.

To hell with this place.
They meant it well. I think you don't understand what they are saying. Noone is good enough, everyone is a big sinner, but we're all worthy to get saved. The lost son thought he wasn't worthy. Look at the Father's response.
Don't think you're worse than someone else. If I could get saved anyone can.
 
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Do a study on blood covenants.

What father doesn't love his newborn son? What did that son ever do to become worthy of such love? The old has passed away. You are new. Believe it.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Worthy is the Lamb. (Rev. 5:12)
 
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Psalm 8:4-8New King James Version (NKJV)
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What is man that You are mindful of him,
And the son of man that You visit him?
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For You have made him a little lower than the angels,[a]
And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
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You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands;
You have put all things under his feet,
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All sheep and oxen—
Even the beasts of the field,
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The birds of the air,
And the fish of the sea
That pass through the paths of the seas.


These verses, in essence, declare the wonder that God sees us as so vastly valuable and precious to Him. It blows the Psalmist away.
 
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A lot of people seem to want to see themselves as worms, and to mope around like a POS. (Just what Satan wants us doing) But God told me He has remade (actually, "reclaimed" the perfection He originally made.) me into one of His sons. And God don't make no junk.
 
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Go back through and re-read the replies. I don't see support. Instead of a "hey, good job!" I got bombarded by more and more "lessons" that I wasn't asking for. I was just looking for a little encouragement and support, but apparently that's in too short of supply. I wasn't expecting a ticker-tape parade, but a little more encouragement instead of more schooling is what I was looking for.

Every "christian" forums I've been a member of - it's the same thing. Bunch of people with more ego than faith bickering like a bunch of children on topics they aren't qualified to talk about, and can't show any support to people who need it and would rather act like juveniles and make passive-aggressive commentary like spineless cowards.

To hell with this place.
Now, fellow forum members.... You have read his posts. You know he is floundering. But, you know he would not be here if he didn't truly want God.

Satan's giving him "Hell" right now. So, how are YOU, personally, going to respond? On Satan's side, or on God's?
 
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JesusIsAll

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John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

John 3:16-19
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Rom 10:9-13 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Acts 2:36-38 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This means we must each come to God the same way: (1) as a sinner who recognizes his sinfulness, (2) realizes no human works can result in salvation, and (3) relies totally on Christ alone by faith alone for our salvation.

If you would like to receive and trust Christ as your personal Savior, you may want to express your faith in Christ by a simple prayer acknowledging your sinfulness, accepting His forgiveness and putting your faith in Christ for your salvation.