endtimes. new world order, one world goverment israel mark of the beast

[stef]

I'm with Glenwood. That's enough of this subject for me, but thanks for your explanation

moons, sun signs...yikes
this was meant to dictate the prelivingbygrace....

 

[seer]

I'm just saying, Alan, that Revelations is extremely symbolic and allegorical, and we need to remember that God doesn't conform to our little ideas of Him. He will shatter the bonds and destroy the barriers that we place around Him. I have done so many end-times studies and read so many books about it, that I was sure of everything that was going to happen, but I got really convicted one day and just started reading one of the gospels, and that's when it hit me. He will come like a thief in the night, it will be business as usual right up until He shows up, and nobody knows the hour....nobody. We need to focus on loving those who God put in our lives and let Him worry about the end-times.

do know were your coming from mate i just look to the bible and its amazing how many prophecies are coming to pass now so many the lord is returning soon... but its ok i know what your saying..about how people can be convinced of stuff and get carried away. i see so much around the earth that gods showing me is fufillment of his word that it has eaten me up

 

[seer]

back on site later............................ seer

 

[CuriousCheshire]

during the great tribulation the temprature of the sun rises and men will be scorched by the sun read.... revelation ch 16 v 8 v 9 it wont vaporize the whole earth though... thank god his judgements are limited.............

No....the sun is gonna explode taking all the inner planets with it

 

[easygoing]

I try as best as i can to keep up with current events in not just my country but the world as a whole and there are things all over right now especially that do have some overtones of some of the signs we are to be keeping watch for. Right now the world is getting ready to be introduced to a nuclear iran, i do know that they state it is just for energy purposes, but along with the nuclear facility that is near completion, a uranium enrichment facility is under way. Enriched uranium to a certain enrichment value equals the ability to build nuclear weapons. They have also been purchasing long range rockets capable of delivering "certain" payloads. Irans number one enemy is Israel. When this goes down and just going by past conflicts and statements i believe it will, is going to get a world war going.

In the U.S right now there are talks of a work card being developed that every person will have to obtain in order to get into the workplace. It will have all of our information on it and possibly fingerprint. Now that being said i don't think that this is the mark of the beast but i do think that after this card is issued and everyone has had a chance to warm up to the idea of carrying it that it will be a pre cursor to the mark. Just picture us all carrying cards with all of our information on it and not just adults but children as well because i am sure kids will have to have it to go to school which isn't that farfetched because right now you have to obtain medical records, birth certificates, and residential proof before a child can be enrolled into school. Then someone figures out a way to abuse it and it becomes too easy to steal information. Well then what would be a possible next step? verichip I.D. or some form of I.D. on your person at all times?

The U.S. government is trying to pass into law, and this is a very, very big topic here right now, that the government wants to take over healthcare. I can tell you all reading this that the U.S. is extremely divided on this. Not just officials, but citizens also. One of the topics or one of the major topics is that if the government takes over healthcare that people who do not support abortion will still have to pay for people getting abortions. I guess i should say also that every american will be required to carry health insurance. If not then there will be penalty fees passed along to those people. With 70% of americans saying they are against a government controlled healthcare, the government officials are trying to force the bill through by any means necessary and by any loophole they can find.

The earthquakes that have riddled the world over the last 10 years have been increasing with not only frequency but in magnitudes as well.

Please add more current events that are going on in your region or any i have left out (due to trying to keep this as short as possible), We may very well be going through the birth pangs that the bible speaks about. If it is then we should rejoice because the time to meet our lord is not far off.

 

[loveschild]

Yes everything that is happening is the sign that Lord is coming for us. Sing for joy!

 

[giantone]

ok ill give a brief outline of were im at i believe there is now a one world goverment and that the antichrist will come to power soon from the european union and that their will be a one world bank one world currency one world religion that the nation of israel will be the dominated by the antichrist who will sign a peace treaty for 7 yrs and the false prophet. and that there will be a micro ---bio-chip implanted into the human race worldwide it will be the only source of buying and selling it will replace cash. the idol of the antichrist will be set up in the temple of jerusalem then the wrath of god will be unleashed ... ... ok ill let the conversations flow now share your views or ask ....fire away,,,,seer

How they are doing it worldwide is to make the currencies worthless by printing money out of thin air using some of it to bribe the poorer nations to join the rest of the world .and once hyperinflation is rampant the solution will be electronic money and then electronic money worldwide to even the worth of the different currencies. Its a huge conspiracy but many people are forced to participate not by choice but to keep surviving. All it took was a little compromise here and there and murders and manipulation over the last 100 years or so mainly. As far I can see two groups have been working for controlling the world for close to 500 years or so. For those who think i'm a conspiracy nut, I am. The Devil has been conspiring since the beginning. These people plan things decades in advance or more and make small steps to there goals. They think God is on there side.

I doubt a chip will be necessary, cooperation is what is rely wanted. About the seven year tribulation, I think it is likely there will be some sort of counterfeit tribulation as well as a counterfeit Antichrist And then the real thing, I doubt things will be as they appear (or as we think they should appear) Sometimes what is bad for some is good for others.

I've restrained myself from discussing some of these things Because this is Bible discussion and for me this topic would likely lead to many other things that are not useful here. I used to be all bent out of shape seeing what goes on behind the scenes and the corruption and deception everywhere, The one thing I can depend on is the Word of God, anything else can and likely is altered in some way.

Regardless, people will receive the wages for what they do and who they serve, pay day's a commin'

 

[ProudLibertarian]

I can't help myself... I have to reply. I've tried, but i cant.

First of all, you doomsayers have been feeding us this same message for 2000 years! People were JUST AS SURE the end was near 500 years ago as they are today! Sorry, I DONT BUY INTO IT!!! Fool me once, shame of you. Fool me twice...

And , FYI, the word microchip is no where in the bible nor is the term European union!

 

[ProudLibertarian]

http://www.aolnews.com/science/article/recent-spate-of-quakes-is-not-unusual-scientists-say/19401319

http://www.connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?id=424762

Seismic activity is NORMAL!!!!

 

[flyboy01]

ok ill give a brief outline of were im at i believe there is now a one world goverment and that the antichrist will come to power soon from the european union and that their will be a one world bank one world currency one world religion that the nation of israel will be the dominated by the antichrist who will sign a peace treaty for 7 yrs and the false prophet. and that there will be a micro ---bio-chip implanted into the human race worldwide it will be the only source of buying and selling it will replace cash. the idol of the antichrist will be set up in the temple of jerusalem then the wrath of god will be unleashed ... ... ok ill let the conversations flow now share your views or ask ....fire away,,,,seer

What if this is 1000 or 2000 years from now, and micro bio chips would be things of the 2000's we are talking of year 3000 or 4000? how can you jump into conclusions like that? Come on! I think when the end of times come, they will come, and I won't have to worry about it, I'm saved.

 

[ProudLibertarian]

What if this is 1000 or 2000 years from now, and micro bio chips would be things of the 2000's we are talking of year 3000 or 4000? how can you jump into conclusions like that? Come on! I think when the end of times come, they will come, and I won't have to worry about it, I'm saved.

Yeah.. really...

 

[Red_Tory]

- I think that as an economic union, the EU is a long ways off from being a "world government". If anything, it will all be like Huntington's Clash of Civilizations.

- A microchip into the entire human race? I find it extremely improbable that anyone would actually bother to implant a microchip into every Dirka Dirka or African so that they can buy and sell things... Buying what and with what? They can't drink their tap water and they're hiding in the hills! They don't have any money! I doubt they will jump to microchips because it's simply not worth implanting buying-and-selling chips into the population chunk of the world which scratches out an existence in the dirt.

If it is "one world government" and "microchips", then it's hundreds (if not a thousand!) years off.

 

[studentofgod]

i have just started learning about end time prophecy.One thing i have been thinking about alot is Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. There is almost an earthquake every three days over a 6.0 on average, so how will we know when there are earthquakes in divers places, and do many of you think that is happening now

 

[seer]

I think the census they are doing right now is the works of the anti christ. That they are wanting to know where to find us when they try to force us to be chipped. The health care thing is the new world order. New world order and new world gov is the same thing.
Its just all part of our future. Its written. WE just glorify God. Don't get that chip. It dooms you to hell. If we die on this earth then we get our immortal bodies in heaven.
Have no fear for the Lord your God is with you.

agree with you totally..... alot lof people think its a conspiracy theory its not its all happening ..... alan

 

[seer]

I try as best as i can to keep up with current events in not just my country but the world as a whole and there are things all over right now especially that do have some overtones of some of the signs we are to be keeping watch for. Right now the world is getting ready to be introduced to a nuclear iran, i do know that they state it is just for energy purposes, but along with the nuclear facility that is near completion, a uranium enrichment facility is under way. Enriched uranium to a certain enrichment value equals the ability to build nuclear weapons. They have also been purchasing long range rockets capable of delivering "certain" payloads. Irans number one enemy is Israel. When this goes down and just going by past conflicts and statements i believe it will, is going to get a world war going.

In the U.S right now there are talks of a work card being developed that every person will have to obtain in order to get into the workplace. It will have all of our information on it and possibly fingerprint. Now that being said i don't think that this is the mark of the beast but i do think that after this card is issued and everyone has had a chance to warm up to the idea of carrying it that it will be a pre cursor to the mark. Just picture us all carrying cards with all of our information on it and not just adults but children as well because i am sure kids will have to have it to go to school which isn't that farfetched because right now you have to obtain medical records, birth certificates, and residential proof before a child can be enrolled into school. Then someone figures out a way to abuse it and it becomes too easy to steal information. Well then what would be a possible next step? verichip I.D. or some form of I.D. on your person at all times?

The U.S. government is trying to pass into law, and this is a very, very big topic here right now, that the government wants to take over healthcare. I can tell you all reading this that the U.S. is extremely divided on this. Not just officials, but citizens also. One of the topics or one of the major topics is that if the government takes over healthcare that people who do not support abortion will still have to pay for people getting abortions. I guess i should say also that every american will be required to carry health insurance. If not then there will be penalty fees passed along to those people. With 70% of americans saying they are against a government controlled healthcare, the government officials are trying to force the bill through by any means necessary and by any loophole they can find.

The earthquakes that have riddled the world over the last 10 years have been increasing with not only frequency but in magnitudes as well.

Please add more current events that are going on in your region or any i have left out (due to trying to keep this as short as possible), We may very well be going through the birth pangs that the bible speaks about. If it is then we should rejoice because the time to meet our lord is not far off.

thanks for your reply insightfull thankyou .....its clear from bible prophecy that the antichrist will rise to power through a ten king confederancy.. i believe that we are now in a world govement,,and that in the us and britian it deosnt matter if you vote republican or democrate or in britain labour or conservative they are all members of the bildeberg group and the new world order its a fact we are in a one world goverment alan..

 

[seer]

How they are doing it worldwide is to make the currencies worthless by printing money out of thin air using some of it to bribe the poorer nations to join the rest of the world .and once hyperinflation is rampant the solution will be electronic money and then electronic money worldwide to even the worth of the different currencies. Its a huge conspiracy but many people are forced to participate not by choice but to keep surviving. All it took was a little compromise here and there and murders and manipulation over the last 100 years or so mainly. As far I can see two groups have been working for controlling the world for close to 500 years or so. For those who think i'm a conspiracy nut, I am. The Devil has been conspiring since the beginning. These people plan things decades in advance or more and make small steps to there goals. They think God is on there side.

I doubt a chip will be necessary, cooperation is what is rely wanted. About the seven year tribulation, I think it is likely there will be some sort of counterfeit tribulation as well as a counterfeit Antichrist And then the real thing, I doubt things will be as they appear (or as we think they should appear) Sometimes what is bad for some is good for others.

I've restrained myself from discussing some of these things Because this is Bible discussion and for me this topic would likely lead to many other things that are not useful here. I used to be all bent out of shape seeing what goes on behind the scenes and the corruption and deception everywhere, The one thing I can depend on is the Word of God, anything else can and likely is altered in some way.

Regardless, people will receive the wages for what they do and who they serve, pay day's a commin'

thanks for your comments.. there is alot of theorys that are off the wall will agree there .regarding these topics about the endtimes agree with your economic views.. and i stay on bible prophecy myself.what is happening politically around the nations is fullfilling bible prophecy. and that we are in a place were we need to be alert and watch..................

 

[seer]

- I think that as an economic union, the EU is a long ways off from being a "world government". If anything, it will all be like Huntington's Clash of Civilizations.

- A microchip into the entire human race? I find it extremely improbable that anyone would actually bother to implant a microchip into every Dirka Dirka or African so that they can buy and sell things... Buying what and with what? They can't drink their tap water and they're hiding in the hills! They don't have any money! I doubt they will jump to microchips because it's simply not worth implanting buying-and-selling chips into the population chunk of the world which scratches out an existence in the dirt.

If it is "one world government" and "microchips", then it's hundreds (if not a thousand!) years off.

the technology is here and they plant to use it it will happen no stopping it....................

 

[Israel]

Ephesians 12:6

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Romans 13:1-7

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves ****ation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.


1 Timothy 2:1-2

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

I believe the mark of the beast has nothing to do with microchips or any other visible sign of alligance. Buying and selling has nothing to do with tangile, literal goods and services. We know that there is no literal beast that's going to rise out of the sea. We need only to apply that same logic here as well. This is spiritual. The beast already has control over everything mainstream. Governments, television, music, and anything else that reaches the masses.

Ephesians 5:3-7

But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Revelation 13:16

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!

Revelation 14:9-11

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

We've all recieved the mark of disobedience, but what's the difference between those who shall drink the wine of the wrath of God and those who don't?

Ephesians 5:8-10

For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth 10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

The mark was and still is sin. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Sin in the Bible is defined as transgression (disobedience) to the law.

Revelation 14:12-13

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Buying and selling is about the truth of God. Whatever it is, including religion: if it is promoted by the mainstream, the beast system allows it because it is not the truth. Most people believe whatever is promoted by the media. Television shapes our view of the world. But if the beast system controls television, we then base our reality on what it promotes.

Revelation 3:17-18

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

 

[seer]

revelation ch 13 v 16 .... and he caused all both small and great rich and poor.free and bond to recieve a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads and that no man might but or sell save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.......... the purpose of the new world order is to get everyone microchipped we are conditioned by the one world goverment already...............their purpose is to have every human being under surveillance and control the bio- chip will be introduced voluntarily then when world economic markets crash they will be made cumpusory. first through making it difficult to live in the system without one .the chips we have in our cards are a step towards one day puting a chip under the skin.. the veri-chip can be tracked by global positioning satellite tracking systems and will connect with the internet. peoples every move will be tracked on the planet.............we are living in an electronic world and the word of god is being fullfilled this will become the mark of the antichrist.......... through this people will be followed everwere and wont be able to buy or sell is this a theory or sceince christain fiction..............no its happening............ it could never have happened in any other age we are living in the last days before the great tribulation

 

[seer]

Ephesians 12:6

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Romans 13:1-7

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves ****ation.
3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 7Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.


1 Timothy 2:1-2

I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

I believe the mark of the beast has nothing to do with microchips or any other visible sign of alligance. Buying and selling has nothing to do with tangile, literal goods and services. We know that there is no literal beast that's going to rise out of the sea. We need only to apply that same logic here as well. This is spiritual. The beast already has control over everything mainstream. Governments, television, music, and anything else that reaches the masses.

Ephesians 5:3-7

But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Revelation 13:16

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

We talk about the mark and when it's to be enforced and who will accept or refuse, but the scriptures say that all recieve it. EVERYONE!

Revelation 14:9-11

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

We've all recieved the mark of disobedience, but what's the difference between those who shall drink the wine of the wrath of God and those who don't?

Ephesians 5:8-10

For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth 10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

The mark was and still is sin. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Sin in the Bible is defined as transgression (disobedience) to the law.

Revelation 14:12-13

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

Buying and selling is about the truth of God. Whatever it is, including religion: if it is promoted by the mainstream, the beast system allows it because it is not the truth. Most people believe whatever is promoted by the media. Television shapes our view of the world. But if the beast system controls television, we then base our reality on what it promotes.

Revelation 3:17-18

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

thanks for your reply i disagree on the mark as it is clearly to buy or sell......... thanks for reply.................be blessed