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Well, that is your right. Unfortunately, you are disagreeing with the majority of Christianity before Darby and all of Orthodox Christianity before Luther.
we are not living in that time there are many events happening around the world that are fullfilling bible prophecy...wich is what im sharing these prophecies werent being fullfilled hundreds of years ago then but are now..
 
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2 Peter 3:3-4 First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. The will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our father died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation."

Yes, there have been generations that thought (more likely, hoped) that they were the last, and people scoffed at them, but never before has there been a time where happenings in the world were aligned such as to be possible a literal fulfillment of the prophecies.
I'm not a scoffer. I'm tired of doomsayers lying to us... These people have been saying this for 2000 years! Come on! You have to forgive me for being a little skeptical.

EVERY GENERATION since the time of Christ interpreted events in the history and came to the same conclusion as and and seer: that they were living in the 'end times'. They were ALL wrong, just as this generation will be. You say events today are more alinged with prophesy than any other time in history? Really? What about Emperor Nero who burned the city of Rome, murdered his own family, engaged in pedophilia, and persecuted countless Christians? Or his successor Titus Flavius who destroyed Jerusalem and desecrated the temple by entering the holiest of holies?
 
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since 70 ad when the roman empire destroyed the temple and jerusalem. wich was a fufillment of what jesus prophesied.in matthew ch 24 v 2.. the jewish people were scattered to the gentile nations and their land was desolate though the roman catholic thurch and its 3 crusades tried to make it a possesion of its own and have failed ..and all other attempts to posess the land why.... because god promised they would return to their own land and never again be uprooted from it, after 2000 yrs the jews have returned to the land god promised them through abraham, genisis ch 12 v 2 v 3.. they were sent to the gentiles as a judgement of god. in ezekiel ch 36 v 24, god said to the nation of israel........... i will take you from among the gentiles and gather you of all countries and i will bring you into your own land... this happened and in 1948 it became a state decreed by the un and they have come back to their land also in isaiah ch 49 v 22 god said ..... i will lift up my hand to the gentiles and set up my standard to the people and they shall bring your sons in their arms and your daughters shall be carried upon your sholders. this was fullfilled in 1948. consider this for 2000 yrs they never had a homeland now they do at no other time in the last 2000 yrs could the lord return why ....... because in matthew chapter 24 and the entire book of revelation the jews are in their land and christ comes to the mount of olives and they are in their land this has all happened since 1948 god has not broken his covenant with the nation of israel and never will my point is this, [he is returning soon] one more scripture about what is happening politicaly now in the middle east, its zechariah ch 12 v 2 v 3.. god says.... i will make jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about when they shall be in the siege both against judah and jerusalem i will make jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces though the whole earth be gathered together against it..... here god is talking about the build up to armaggedon it is truly now a political burden to the arab states the un and even washington,, eventually all nations will turn against israel... then in ch 14 v 4. the lord will return and his feet will stand on the mout of olives ....so here we are 2010 and the jewish people are in the land again after 2000 yrs and . it is a political burden and also the lord will return to his people in their land that could never have happened in any other time in history... bible prophecy is coming to pass and the lord is returning........... in our lifetime
 

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going offline be back on later....alan
 
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im ok reasoning. just sharing what the bible says regarding the things that are taking place in the world today...... that israel is in their land after 2000 yrs and that we have a build up to a one world economy and the formation of a one world goverment wich is exactly what the book of revelarion says will happen.... alan
 
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How do you know it hasn't already happened? 1500 years ago? All end-times speculation is based upon the assumption that what is written in the bible is yet to take place in our future. Well if you take that approach to scripture, it's a wonder that you aren't predicting and waiting for the Messiah to be born in Bethlehem in the year 2035.
 
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How do you know it hasn't already happened? 1500 years ago? All end-times speculation is based upon the assumption that what is written in the bible is yet to take place in our future. Well if you take that approach to scripture, it's a wonder that you aren't predicting and waiting for the Messiah to be born in Bethlehem in the year 2035.
i dont think your reasoning is logical.not saying that to be offensive brother... christ has come and fullfilled all the messianic prophecies in the old testament regarding his first coming wich was to give an atonement for sin at calvary......before he could come again according to the biblical prophecies about what is happening in the earth prior to and just before the lords return . the jews had to occupy jerusalem wich the jews took back in the 6 days war of 1967 they took back the ancient city of jerusalem and are it is now a contention and burden politically just as the bible predicted we are not seeing some minor scripture come to pass but world shaking events that all the world can see ... god speaks the end from the beginning through bible prophecy god has used bible prophecy to put his own signiture on the fact that the bible is inspired by the spirit of god it speaks to mans intellect it has to be inspired by a being with all knowledge of the future,, who is eternal and not limited by time.... the messianic hope of israel is the coming of their messiah he will come to israel and his kingdom shall rule over the gentile nations .from the nation of israel thats their destiny isaiah ch 60 v 1 v 12.................and the abrahamic covenant [ genisis ch 12 v 2 v 3] that through them all families of the earth ill be blessed this is being fullfilled by the gospel it was sent from jerusalem but also israel is to be the govermental.headquarters of the kingdom of god on this earth [ not sure if you were saying this statement regarding what someone else said or this was your opinion but thought id reply brother] like to add on the site im just debating and i not in anyway using scripture to fight .....bless.
 
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would you be partial to the idea of a one world government repeating itself over and over through past history? , and expressing itself through the various empires?
 
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would you be partial to the idea of a one world government repeating itself over and over through past history? , and expressing itself through the various empires?
i agree in a way but not completley ill explain revelation ch 13 v 8 it says .. and [all] that dwell upon the earth shall worship him. whose names are not written in the book of life of the lamb slain before the foundation of the world.verse 16 he caused all small and great rich and poor free and bond to recieve a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads. there have been many attempts to conquer the world from genguis khan to alexander the great to the roman empire napoleanand even adolf hitler tried to unify europe and make it a united states of europe wich was their plan .... but failed.. there is only one .one world goverment or empire that will cover the earth wich is unique because it is an empire conisting of all nations there will be a king over it the antichrist.now nebuchadnezzars kingdom has manifested itself through babel and alexander to the greco- roman empire but the 10 kings spoken of in daniel and revaltion shall give their power to the man of sin the antichrist,and all the earth shall worship him not a part but the whole earth shall there is the satanic influence of babel coming through all these kngdoms i agree but what we are seeing today is a one world goverment wich is setting the stage for the appearing of the antichrist wich could not happen in the past without a world goverment.... i do aggree with you that the same spirit is at work through the- babel- greco- roman- empires , but they werent a world goverment
 
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revelation ch 17 v12 there will be ten kings who will make the antichrist the worldwide ruler we now have a one world goverment... the world has never had one in all its history we do now and the ten horns...rulers wich you saw are ten kings wich have recieved no kingdom as yet but recieve power as kings one hour with the beast this is explaining what is taking place in international politics with the new world order now they are joined but soon they will give the antichrist his position as world ruler..
I beg your pardon? I mean if you want to enter the great tribulation be my guest, I'm not. And where does this answer the so smart and mature statement of the microchip?
 
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Well I for one won't be getting chipped. As for it happening, whether one believes it fullfillment of biblical prophecy or not, the fact is it is already happening, not only are animals being inserted with computer chips but humans are as well, it is already happening.
 
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