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Why is this thread even allowed in a Christian bible forum, this is not a multi-religion forum, take your statement turned into a question and go back where you came from, But before you do let me help you why would Jesus if He was not God call Himself "Almighty" and If he is not who He said He was then He is not a good prophet or a very good teacher as the jw's says that he is But he is a Blasphemer, But if he who he says that he is The Almighty Then quit tearing Him down and worship Him For who He Is, Jehova our Lord God!!!!! Or better yet if this is not Jesus talking in rev, 1 and it is Jehova speaking then could you please tell me when did Jehova get prieced and when did Jehova Die??????????
New World Translation( the JW's own Bible ) this is a part they failed to take out when they changed the cross into the whipping post
7 Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.
8 “I am the Al´pha and the O·me´ga,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
9 I John, YOUR brother and a sharer with YOU in the tribulation and kingdom and endurance in company with Jesus, came to be in the isle that is called Pat´mos for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus. 10 By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet, 11 saying: “What you see write in a scroll and send it to the seven congregations, in Eph´e·sus and in Smyr´na and in Per´ga·mum and in Thy·a·ti´ra and in Sar´dis and in Philadelphia and in La·o·di·ce´a.”
12 And I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me, and, having turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the lampstands someone like a son of man, clothed with a garment that reached down to the feet, and girded at the breasts with a golden girdle. 14 Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes as a fiery flame; 15 and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace; and his voice was as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp, long two-edged sword was protruding, and his countenance was as the sun when it shines in its power. 17 And when I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet.
And he laid his right hand upon me and said: “Do not be fearful. I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one; and I became dead, but, look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Ha´des.
Yeah this is Jesus Talking and He is not a Blasphemer But He is Lord God , not a god, He was not made a god of the gentiles , He is Jehova God Almighty,
New World Translation( the JW's own Bible ) this is a part they failed to take out when they changed the cross into the whipping post
7 Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.
8 “I am the Al´pha and the O·me´ga,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
9 I John, YOUR brother and a sharer with YOU in the tribulation and kingdom and endurance in company with Jesus, came to be in the isle that is called Pat´mos for speaking about God and bearing witness to Jesus. 10 By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet, 11 saying: “What you see write in a scroll and send it to the seven congregations, in Eph´e·sus and in Smyr´na and in Per´ga·mum and in Thy·a·ti´ra and in Sar´dis and in Philadelphia and in La·o·di·ce´a.”
12 And I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me, and, having turned, I saw seven golden lampstands, 13 and in the midst of the lampstands someone like a son of man, clothed with a garment that reached down to the feet, and girded at the breasts with a golden girdle. 14 Moreover, his head and his hair were white as white wool, as snow, and his eyes as a fiery flame; 15 and his feet were like fine copper when glowing in a furnace; and his voice was as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars, and out of his mouth a sharp, long two-edged sword was protruding, and his countenance was as the sun when it shines in its power. 17 And when I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet.
And he laid his right hand upon me and said: “Do not be fearful. I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one; and I became dead, but, look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of Ha´des.
Yeah this is Jesus Talking and He is not a Blasphemer But He is Lord God , not a god, He was not made a god of the gentiles , He is Jehova God Almighty,
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I saw a sticky that no one on this forum is allowed to say anything against Jesus as God in the flesh, so then this thread is against the rules if the poster follows a religion that is against this belief am I correct?
( I am not Christian and I believe that Jesus was created and Ruhullah (Spirit of God?) and Prophet of God and Messiah but created by God nonetheless and after reading that sticky I am under the impression that this part is unable to be discussed here.....)
( I am not Christian and I believe that Jesus was created and Ruhullah (Spirit of God?) and Prophet of God and Messiah but created by God nonetheless and after reading that sticky I am under the impression that this part is unable to be discussed here.....)
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the only terror you may see is the terror of someone searching for the truth and come in here and find these kind of post, you know yourself, that people put their statements in the question form all the time in here. anyone can say that they are a Christian, muslems are doing it all the time, and then getting enough of them in a Chruch then taking over the church. who was more rigid than any, But our Lord when He said He was the WAY, and that no man cometh unto the Father but by Him!!!! Muslems can say that it is ok to kill anyone that is not a muslem and Christians are the ones that are accused of being rigid. I hope That I can hear the Lord Jesus Christ say to me one day , You sure were rigid in your belief in Me. thank you for the compliment, that is a statement, that was made about john and peter one time and I have longed to hear someone say it about me so the compliments in one Post I don't know if I deserve it but thank you they could tell that they were unlearned But that they had been hanging around Jesus, I will take safety in My Lord over intelligence, any day.... it is a good thing to Fear The Lord God Almighty
Ac 4:13Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
I believe it was Jesus that said several times that your fathers have said this But I say this, example; it have said been said of old thou shalt not commit adultery, But I say if you have looked at a woman with lust, you have already commited adultery. oh yeah that really loosen things up didn't it, He didn't destroy the law but fulfilled the law, and as far as me being in the prayer room I also said that I would still defend God, His Word and His House. I believe this thread questions the deity of my God, and I am defending that deity of Jesus Christ my Lord and Saviour and my Jehova, God.
as far a Christians killing , Catholics don't even like to call themselves christians They are CATHOLICS remember, so why do you want to insult them by calling them christians, or is that too flexible for a flexible guy like you???
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Incredible. I would love to see that verse, BTW.
Re 15:4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
De 6:24And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to FEAR THE LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
Ps 15:4In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that FEAR THE LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
Ps 22:23Ye that FEAR THE LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Ps 33:8Let all the earth FEAR THE LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
Ps 34:9O FEAR THE LORD, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.
Ps 115:11Ye that FEAR THE LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.
Ps 115:13He will bless them that FEAR THE LORD, both small and great.
Ps 118:4Let them now that FEAR THE LORD say, that his mercy endureth for ever.
Ps 135:20Bless the LORD, O house of Levi: ye that FEAR THE LORD, bless the LORD.
Pr 3:7Be not wise in thine own eyes: FEAR THE LORD, and depart from evil.
Mt 10:28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Re 15:4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
De 6:24And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to FEAR THE LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
Ps 15:4In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that FEAR THE LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
Ps 22:23Ye that FEAR THE LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all ye the seed of Israel.
Ps 33:8Let all the earth FEAR THE LORD: let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him.
Ps 34:9O FEAR THE LORD, ye his saints: for there is no want to them that fear him.
Ps 115:11Ye that FEAR THE LORD, trust in the LORD: he is their help and their shield.
Ps 115:13He will bless them that FEAR THE LORD, both small and great.
Ps 118:4Let them now that FEAR THE LORD say, that his mercy endureth for ever.
Ps 135:20Bless the LORD, O house of Levi: ye that FEAR THE LORD, bless the LORD.
Pr 3:7Be not wise in thine own eyes: FEAR THE LORD, and depart from evil.
Mt 10:28And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.