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p_rehbein

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Yes sir that is why we should not get baptised cause Jesus Christ is our baptism.

Ok, so why exactly did Christ give us the example of being water baptized, and why did He allow His disciples to baptize folks who became His followers, and why did He allow the Apostles to teach water baptism AFTER His ascension to the Throne?

Guess He was just "fooling with us huh"
 
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FreeNChrist

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No but now it's almost considered a sin by some to do anything and even baptism is considered a work. Not doing anything is not resting either. You're only busy to not buy food, not do this, not do that. I went to a very strict hotel in Israel once. They let the Arabs serve the food on saturday and you had those lines I heard for how much you could walk on a day. That's not really the Spirit of the law I think. Sabbath is for the people, not the other way around. I'm more into the soaky soaky spend time with God and then get fired up to pray, but don't be so busy praying that you forget to listen to Him.
One extreme is do this, do that so you earn His Love and the other extreme is relax and don't even pray and fall asleep spiritually.
And for you that Sabbath rest is one day of the week?
 
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thepsalmist

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MATT 5:19

""For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."

I will add nothing to those words of Jesus ... make of it what you will ...
 
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No it has to be always when you abide in Him and every day take time with Him apart. Wigglesworth said:
“I never pray for more than 15 minutes at a time, but I never go more than 15 minutes without praying.

https://getjuicedup.wordpress.com/tag/smith-wigglesworth/

I'm not there yet I must admit.
Wow not at all.
Good. Because as Christians we have the priviledge of resting in Christ continually, everyday.
 

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Men evolve many arguments to evade the commandments of God
—because the carnal mind is hostile to God, and is not subject to His law! (Romans 8:7).

When men reject the commandments of God, that they may hold to their traditions
(see Mark 7:6-9), they must devise arguments to justify their rebellion.

One of the arguments is that God’s commandments
did not exist until the children of Israel reached Mt. Sinai.



-Adam was created and living when sunset came that sixth
day of creation week—when God rested from His work.
Adam knew which was the seventh day, he was with God on that day.


-Jesus called Abel “righteous”(Matthew 23:35), so Abel kept the Sabbath.

and “all thy commandments are righteousness” (Psalm 119:172).

Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth,
and having on the breastplate of righteousness;Ephesians 6:14

For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation
upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing,
and was clad with zeal as a cloak. Isaiah 59:17


-Enoch “walked with God,” God keep the Sabbath,so Enoch must have kept the Sabbath
—and he was “translated” less than a hundred years before Noah.


They knew which day was the same seventh day all through this time.
Adam lived 243 years with Methuselah, and until Lamech was
56 years of age. These men knew which day was the seventh.
Methuselah lived 600 years with Noah, and Lamech lived with Noah 595 years.


-Noah certainly learned from them, and others, which was the same seventh day.
he also knew Gods calander, to be able to record when the flood events happened.

And Noah kept it, because Noah was a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5)


-Shem was also righteous, and he lived until Abraham was 150 years old.
Noah died only about two years before Abraham was born.
No, time was not lost down to the time of Abraham


Abraham kept God’s commandments 430 years before
his descendants reached Sinai.

“Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge,
MY COMMANDMENTS, MY STATUTES, AND MY LAWS” (Genesis 26:5).
God is speaking. He is explaining [why] He made the great promises to Abraham.


-Abraham kept God’s Sabbath!


The Egyptians observed no Sabbath. They lashed the Israelites in their slave-labor,
on the Sabbaths the same as other days. for some 150 to 175 years—several
generations—were not permitted to keep the Sabbath.They had no priesthood

Probably they knew little about the Sabbath. Time could have been lost
—to them. But, if so, God revealed it by amazing miracles!

These Israelites, some 3 or 4 million in total number (600,000 men above age 20),
came to the wilderness of Sin two months after leaving Egypt, and some two weeks
before arriving at Mt. Sinai. Remember,

this is weeks before giving them the Ten Commandments.

“Then said the [Eternal] unto Moses, Behold, I will rain
bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and
gather a certain rate every day”—why?—“that I may prove
them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.”

This was more than two weeks before they received the Ten Commandments,
before the Old Covenant had so much as been proposed—before the law of Moses.

But God’s law was in force and effect. God was going to prove
them, whether they would obey one of its points. Exodus 16:

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It is evident that the Eternal (who, in human flesh,later became Christ)
first preached to man on the first Sabbath. Adam was created on the sixth day
of creation week. Evidently he was created in the late afternoon,
since the creation of man was the last act of creation on that day.

When the sun had set, immediately after Adam’s creation, [God preached to him],
offering him the gift of eternal life (through the tree of life),
and warning that the wages of sin is death (Genesis 2:15-17).

And here God is again preaching to Israel, through Moses,on the Sabbath.
Read the next verses in Exodus 16. Verse 9,

Moses and Aaron gathered the people. Verse 10,
they all saw the glory of the Eternal. Verses 11-13,
between the two evenings—at dusk—

immediately after sunset on that Sabbath, God sent the quails
for food, and next morning the manna was on the ground.
God sent a miracle every day for 6 days, showing a work day.

Now notice the next miracle. Verse 20: Some tried to save
a supply of manna over until next morning, contrary to God’s
command. “t bred worms, and stank.”

On the six weekdays God had Himself gone to the work of raining
down manna. But God Himself did none of this work on His Sabbath


-holy to Him! On this seventh day God Himself rested from sending them manna!

Millions of people have been taught that Moses gave the children
of Israel the Ten Commandments.


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22For I spake not unto your fathers, [nor commanded them] in [the day] that I brought them
out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be
my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.


God never wanted sacrifices from the begining,



“[T]he [ETERNAL] hath given you the Sabbath.” Nowhere in all God’s Word
can you find any statement that “The Eternal hath given you Sunday.”
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“For by him [Christ] were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and
invisible …. And he is the head of the body, the church …”
(Colossians 1:16, 18).

Very few realize it today—but the Sabbath was made by Jesus Christ ,
and He said plainly that He is Lord also of the Sabbath! (Mark 2:28).

If it was made for mankind, not just for the jews but[ all flesh] even animals.

On the seventh day He MADE THE SABBATH! But the Sabbath was
made, not by work, but by rest. What He ended on the seventh day
was the work of creation—that which was created by work! On
the seventh day He rested! He created the Sabbath by resting.

Was He so fatigued He was forced to stop and rest?
Positively not, for God “fainteth not, neither is weary”! (Isaiah 40:28).

Yet, this was a real rest, because in Exodus 31:17 it is written: “…
in six days the Lord [Christ] made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested,
and was refreshed.” Since He was “refreshed” by this rest, it was a real rest.

Yet He was not tired or weary! Why did He rest? To put His divine presence in that day!
He made the Sabbath day by resting, whereas He had made all other things by working!

Notice further! Also He “blessed the seventh day, and sanctified
it”! What does “sanctified” mean? Look in your dictionary.
It means “set apart, for holy use or purpose.” He set apart this day
from other days—set it apart for holy use—for a day of physical
rest, in which His people may assemble and worship God!

Therefore what God did—and God did it by Christ—
was to make future TIME holy!

No man has power to make anything holy. God alone is
holy—or whatever God has made holy! No group or organization
of men has authority to make future time holy!

Gods presence is Holy

“Moses! Moses!” called God, “… put off thy shoes from off thy feet,
for the place whereon thou standest is HOLY GROUND” (Exodus 3:2-5).

The ground a mile away was not holy. Why did it make any difference whether Moses
took off his shoes—or where? Here is why! The ground where he then stood was holy .
He was required, by God, to treat holy ground with a respect he did not treat other ground.

And why? Well, what made that particular bit of ground holy?
God’s very presence was in that ground! God is holy !
God’s presence in that bush made the ground around it holy!

In the very same manner, God’s presence is in His Sabbath.
He rested on that first Sabbath to put His presence in that day!

This made it holy time! Four thousand years later, when this same “Logos,” or “Word,”
was made flesh—when He came as Jesus Christ in the human flesh—
He was still putting His presence in that same weekly recurring Sabbath—

He went into the synagogues as His custom was!
 

prove-all

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Physical circumcision and keeping the Sabbath were the covenant signs
of the Old Covenant, which I am not under.
1 Corinthians 7:19 “Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing,
but the keeping of the Commandments of God.”

In the Bible we find that there are over 40 verses from Paul alone as to why circumcision is
not done anymore. How important are the Ten Commandments in comparison to circumcision?

If Paul says that the Ten Commandments are what matters and Circumcision is nothing, and
we have more than forty verses and up to ten verses at a time explaining that Circumcision
of the flesh is not relevant anymore, then how many scriptures should we expect to have
telling us that the Sabbath is changed to Sunday?


The fact of the matter is that there is not one scripture that says, “The Sabbath is now Sunday.”
 
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MATT 5:19
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""For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."

I will add nothing to those words of Jesus ... make of it what you will ...
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What I make of it is that either all is accomplished, or you are responsible for keeping every jot and tittle of the law.

Furthermore, Paul taught against physical circumcision, which was a foundational law of the old covenant. Will he be called least in the kingdom of heaven?

make of it what you will ...
 
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coby

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What I make of it is that either all is accomplished, or you are responsible for keeping every jot and tittle of the law.

Furthermore, Paul taught against physical circumcision, which was a foundational law of the old covenant. Will he be called least in the kingdom of heaven?

make of it what you will ...
I'd say: It is finished.
 

prove-all

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Enter His rest.

Heb 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering
into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

-how did they came short?

Heb 4:2 For indeed we have had good tidings preached unto us,
even as also they: but the word of hearing did not profit them,
because it was not united by (faith) with them that heard.

-they did not have faith.

Heb 4:3 For we who have believed do enter into that rest;even as
he hath said, As I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest:
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Heb 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise,
And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;

-notice entering into that rest is connected with the seventh day.

Heb 4:5 and in this place again, They shall not enter into my rest.
Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some should enter thereinto,
and they to whom the good tidings were before preached
failed to enter in because of disobedience,

-God said they will not enter His rest, but they failed because of [disobedience].
about the 7th day Sabbath command.

Heb 4:7 he again defineth a certain day, To-day, saying in David
so long a time afterward (even as hath been said before),
To-day if ye shall hear his voice, Harden not your hearts.

Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken
afterward of another day.

-David said "today" long after Joshua took them into the promised land
so thus proving that there is a rest still to be entered.

Heb 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest hath himself also rested from his works,
as God did from his. Let us therefore give diligence to enter into that rest,

that no man fall after the same example of [disobedience].

-A rest remains, but notice the issue is do not disobey.

Heb 9:3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holy of holies;
Heb 9:4 having a golden altar of incense, and the ark of the covenant overlaid
round about with gold, wherein was a golden pot holding the manna,
and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

-the pot of manna was put in the most Holy

Deu 8:2 And thou shalt remember all the way which Jehovah thy God hath led thee
these forty years in the wilderness, that he might humble thee, to prove thee, to know
what was in thy heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or not.
Deu 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna,
which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know

that man doth not live by bread only, but by everything that proceedeth
out of the mouth of Jehovah doth man live.

-God tested them for 40 years to humble them to see what was in their hearts.
that they should live by every word (10 commandments spoken by Gods own mouth)
not by bread alone.

-what did the bread teach?

Exo 16:4 Then said Jehovah unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you;
and the people shall go out and gather a day's portion every day, that I may prove them,
whether they will walk in my law, or not.

Exo 16:5 And it shall come to pass on the sixth day, that they shall prepare that which
they bring in, and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.

-and how long did God prove them with the manna?

Exo 16:32 And Moses said, This is the thing which Jehovah hath commanded, Let
an omerful of it be kept throughout your generations, that they may see the bread
wherewith I fed you in the wilderness, when I brought you forth from the land of Egypt.

Exo 16:33 And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a pot, and put an omerful of manna therein,
and lay it up before Jehovah, to be kept throughout your generations.

As Jehovah commanded Moses, so Aaron laid it up before the Testimony, to be kept.
And the children of Israel did eat the manna forty years, until they came to a land inhabited;
they did eat the manna, until they came unto the borders of the land of Canaan.

-40 years. this is the issue being spoken of in Hebrews:

Heb 3:16 For who, when they heard, did provoke? nay, did not all they
that came out of Egypt by Moses?

Heb 3:17 And with whom was he displeased forty years?
was it not with them that sinned, whose bodies fell in the wilderness?
Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest,
but to them that were disobedient?
Heb 3:19 And we see that they were not able to enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:4-10 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise,
And God did rest the seventh day from all his works [Gen. 2:2-3].

And in this [place again],

If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth
that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in
because of unbelief [sound familiar?]: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David,
To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest [see below] to the people of God. For he that is entered
into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his."

rest (G4520) sabbatismos
1. a keeping sabbath
2. the blessed rest from toils and troubles looked for in the age to come by
the true worshippers of God and true Christians
from a derivative of G4521

(G4521) sabbaton
1. the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites
were required to abstain from all work
1a. the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b. a single sabbath, sabbath day
2. seven days, a week
of Hebrew origin H7676


-once God has blessed something, can it be undone?

Numbers 23:19-20 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man,
that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall
he not make it good? Behold, I have received commandment to bless:

and he hath blessed; and [I cannot reverse it]."
 

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The Voice

GENESIS 26
[3]Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee,
and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I WILL PERFORM THE OATH
WHICH I SWARE UNTO ABRAHAM thy father;

[4] And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed
all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

[5] BECAUSE THAT ABRAHAM OBEYED MY VOICE, and kept my charge,
MY COMMANDMENTS, my statutes, and MY LAWS.

Abraham was observing to keep Gods 10 commandments
He heard and obeyed Gods "voice".

DEUT. 27
[8] And thou shalt write upon the stones all the words of this law very plainly.

[9] And Moses and the priests the Levites spake unto all Israel, saying, Take heed,
and hearken, O Israel; this day thou art become the people of the Lord thy God .

[10] Thou shalt therefore OBEY THE VOICE of the Lord thy God, and
DO HIS COMMANDMENTS and his statutes, which I command thee this day.

The voice

DEUT. 4 [12] And the Lord spake unto you out of the midst of the fire:
ye heard THE VOICE of the words, but saw no similitude; only ye heard a voice.

[13] And he declared unto you his covenant, which HE COMMANDED YOU TO PERFORM,
EVEN [TEN COMMANDMENTS]; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.



ZEPHANIAH 3
[1] Woe to her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city!

[2] SHE OBEYED NOT THE VOICE; she received not correction; she trusted not in the
LORD; she drew not near to her God. [3] Her princes within her are ROARING LIONS;
her judges are evening WOLVES; they gnaw not the bones till the morrow.

[4] Her prophets are light and treacherous persons: her priests have polluted the sanctuary,
THEY HAVE DONE VIOLENCE TO THE LAW.



JOHN 10
[27] MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE, and I know them, and they follow me:
[28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish,
neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.


Also Gods sheep shall also hear His “voice”.

HEBREWS 4 [6] Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they
to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time;

as it is said, TO DAY IF YE WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, harden not your hearts.



Was this prophecied to happen?

DEUTERONOMY 4
[26] I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish
from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it; ye shall not prolong your days
upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.

[27] And THE LORD SHALL SCATTER YOU AMONG THE NATIONS, and ye shall
be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.

[28] And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone,
which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.

[29] But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God, thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

[30] When thou art in TRIBULATION, and all these things are come upon thee,
even in THE LATTER DAYS, if thou turn to the LORD thy God,

and shalt be OBEDIENT UNTO HIS VOICE;

[31] (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God he will not forsake thee, neither
destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
 
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Psalm 92
A Psalm or Song for the sabbath day.


1It is a good thing to give thanks unto the Lord, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High:

2To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night,

3Upon an instrument of ten strings, and upon the psaltery; upon the harp with a solemn sound.

4For thou,Lord, hast made me glad through thy work: I will triumph in the works of thy hands.

5O Lord, how great are thy works! and thy thoughts are very deep.

6A brutish man knoweth not; neither doth a fool understand this.

7When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity
do flourish; it is that they shall be destroyed for ever:

8But thou, Lord, art most high for evermore.

9For, lo, thine enemies, O Lord, for, lo, thine enemies shall perish; all the workers
of iniquity shall be scattered. But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn:
I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
 
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MATT 5:19

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven." Quoted from Jesus Christ



 
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MATT 5:19

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven." Quoted from Jesus Christ



The law

And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Leviticus 12:3


Paul

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Galatians 5:2-4
 

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The law
And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Leviticus 12:3


Paul
Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. Galatians 5:2-4
The key is all should be accomplished. While some remains to be accomplished, like judgment and eradication of sin and the new earth. Some has already been accomplished like circumcision and reconciliation etc.

For example Jesus in these passages clearly sees do not murder as one that will continue but not a mere shallow reading but a true reading of the law reveals as Jesus states a deeper meaning.
 

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law is much broader in the Bible than we allow also, For the Jew and Jesus the law included the whole of the writings of Moses. This includes the story of creation, Abraham, etc.

For example Cain and able's story show us exactly what Jesus said about being angry with your brother without a cause is murder. etc. The creation story will always be true.
 
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Men evolve many arguments to evade the commandments of God
—because the carnal mind is hostile to God, and is not subject to His law! (Romans 8:7).

When men reject the commandments of God, that they may hold to their traditions
(see Mark 7:6-9), they must devise arguments to justify their rebellion.

One of the arguments is that God’s commandments
did not exist until the children of Israel reached Mt. Sinai.



-Adam was created and living when sunset came that sixth
day of creation week—when God rested from His work.
Adam knew which was the seventh day, he was with God on that day.


-Jesus called Abel “righteous”(Matthew 23:35), so Abel kept the Sabbath.

and “all thy commandments are righteousness” (Psalm 119:172).

Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth,
and having on the breastplate of righteousness;Ephesians 6:14

For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation
upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing,
and was clad with zeal as a cloak. Isaiah 59:17


-Enoch “walked with God,” God keep the Sabbath,so Enoch must have kept the Sabbath
—and he was “translated” less than a hundred years before Noah.


They knew which day was the same seventh day all through this time.
Adam lived 243 years with Methuselah, and until Lamech was
56 years of age. These men knew which day was the seventh.
Methuselah lived 600 years with Noah, and Lamech lived with Noah 595 years.


-Noah certainly learned from them, and others, which was the same seventh day.
he also knew Gods calander, to be able to record when the flood events happened.

And Noah kept it, because Noah was a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5)


-Shem was also righteous, and he lived until Abraham was 150 years old.
Noah died only about two years before Abraham was born.
No, time was not lost down to the time of Abraham


Abraham kept God’s commandments 430 years before
his descendants reached Sinai.

“Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge,
MY COMMANDMENTS, MY STATUTES, AND MY LAWS” (Genesis 26:5).
God is speaking. He is explaining [why] He made the great promises to Abraham.


-Abraham kept God’s Sabbath!


The Egyptians observed no Sabbath. They lashed the Israelites in their slave-labor,
on the Sabbaths the same as other days. for some 150 to 175 years—several
generations—were not permitted to keep the Sabbath.They had no priesthood

Probably they knew little about the Sabbath. Time could have been lost
—to them. But, if so, God revealed it by amazing miracles!

These Israelites, some 3 or 4 million in total number (600,000 men above age 20),
came to the wilderness of Sin two months after leaving Egypt, and some two weeks
before arriving at Mt. Sinai. Remember,

this is weeks before giving them the Ten Commandments.

“Then said the [Eternal] unto Moses, Behold, I will rain
bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and
gather a certain rate every day”—why?—“that I may prove
them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.”

This was more than two weeks before they received the Ten Commandments,
before the Old Covenant had so much as been proposed—before the law of Moses.

But God’s law was in force and effect. God was going to prove
them, whether they would obey one of its points. Exodus 16:

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It is evident that the Eternal (who, in human flesh,later became Christ)
first preached to man on the first Sabbath. Adam was created on the sixth day
of creation week. Evidently he was created in the late afternoon,
since the creation of man was the last act of creation on that day.

When the sun had set, immediately after Adam’s creation, [God preached to him],
offering him the gift of eternal life (through the tree of life),
and warning that the wages of sin is death (Genesis 2:15-17).

And here God is again preaching to Israel, through Moses,on the Sabbath.
Read the next verses in Exodus 16. Verse 9,

Moses and Aaron gathered the people. Verse 10,
they all saw the glory of the Eternal. Verses 11-13,
between the two evenings—at dusk—

immediately after sunset on that Sabbath, God sent the quails
for food, and next morning the manna was on the ground.
God sent a miracle every day for 6 days, showing a work day.

Now notice the next miracle. Verse 20: Some tried to save
a supply of manna over until next morning, contrary to God’s
command. “t bred worms, and stank.”

On the six weekdays God had Himself gone to the work of raining
down manna. But God Himself did none of this work on His Sabbath


-holy to Him! On this seventh day God Himself rested from sending them manna!

Millions of people have been taught that Moses gave the children
of Israel the Ten Commandments.


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22For I spake not unto your fathers, [nor commanded them] in [the day] that I brought them
out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:

23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be
my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.


God never wanted sacrifices from the begining,



“[T]he [ETERNAL] hath given you the Sabbath.” Nowhere in all God’s Word
can you find any statement that “The Eternal hath given you Sunday.”
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“For by him [Christ] were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and
invisible …. And he is the head of the body, the church …”
(Colossians 1:16, 18).

Very few realize it today—but the Sabbath was made by Jesus Christ ,
and He said plainly that He is Lord also of the Sabbath! (Mark 2:28).

If it was made for mankind, not just for the jews but[ all flesh] even animals.

On the seventh day He MADE THE SABBATH! But the Sabbath was
made, not by work, but by rest. What He ended on the seventh day
was the work of creation—that which was created by work! On
the seventh day He rested! He created the Sabbath by resting.

Was He so fatigued He was forced to stop and rest?
Positively not, for God “fainteth not, neither is weary”! (Isaiah 40:28).

Yet, this was a real rest, because in Exodus 31:17 it is written: “…
in six days the Lord [Christ] made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested,
and was refreshed.” Since He was “refreshed” by this rest, it was a real rest.

Yet He was not tired or weary! Why did He rest? To put His divine presence in that day!
He made the Sabbath day by resting, whereas He had made all other things by working!

Notice further! Also He “blessed the seventh day, and sanctified
it”! What does “sanctified” mean? Look in your dictionary.
It means “set apart, for holy use or purpose.” He set apart this day
from other days—set it apart for holy use—for a day of physical
rest, in which His people may assemble and worship God!

Therefore what God did—and God did it by Christ—
was to make future TIME holy!

No man has power to make anything holy. God alone is
holy—or whatever God has made holy! No group or organization
of men has authority to make future time holy!

Gods presence is Holy

“Moses! Moses!” called God, “… put off thy shoes from off thy feet,
for the place whereon thou standest is HOLY GROUND” (Exodus 3:2-5).

The ground a mile away was not holy. Why did it make any difference whether Moses
took off his shoes—or where? Here is why! The ground where he then stood was holy .
He was required, by God, to treat holy ground with a respect he did not treat other ground.

And why? Well, what made that particular bit of ground holy?
God’s very presence was in that ground! God is holy !
God’s presence in that bush made the ground around it holy!

In the very same manner, God’s presence is in His Sabbath.
He rested on that first Sabbath to put His presence in that day!

This made it holy time! Four thousand years later, when this same “Logos,” or “Word,”
was made flesh—when He came as Jesus Christ in the human flesh—
He was still putting His presence in that same weekly recurring Sabbath—

He went into the synagogues as His custom was!


Go, Herbert W.!!!!!!! LOL
 

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MATT 5:19

"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven." Quoted from Jesus Christ.


That's a quote from Christ written by Matthew inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Also inspired by the Holy Spirit...

But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
(1Co 1:30)

For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
(Rom 5:17)

For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
(Rom 5:19)