SCRIPTURES TEACHING US OF HEALING

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p_rehbein

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SUBJECT: (see title of OP)

CONTEXT: (see Scriptures provided)

(Particular to me are the EMBOLDEN)

Isaiah 41:10 - Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Jeremiah 17:14 - Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou [art] my praise.
1 Peter 2:24 - Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Jeremiah 33:6 - Behold, I will bring it health and cure, and I will cure them, and will reveal unto them the abundance of peace and truth.

Isaiah 53:5 - But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Psalms 103:2-4 - Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: (Read More...)

James 5:15 - And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

James 5:14 - Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

James 5:16 - Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

3 John 1:2 - Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Proverbs 17:22 - A merry heart doeth good [like] a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

Matthew 10:1 - And when he had called unto [him] his twelve disciples, he gave them power [against] unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

Psalms 127:3 - Lo, children [are] an heritage of the LORD: [and] the fruit of the womb [is his] reward.

Matthew 10:8 - Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Deuteronomy 7:15
- And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all [them] that hate thee.
 

blue_ladybug

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Then why do *some* of those who cry out to Him for healing, NOT get healed?? Hmmm? God's healing of today is NOT for every one..
 

John146

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We are His spiritual children and we have been healed spiritually. I'll take that healing over any bodily healing.
 
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Psalm 103:2-5 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
 

un2him

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Psalm 147:3

He heals the brokenhearted
and binds up their wounds.

Sounds like heart surgery ...the heart is also emotions He cares about a healed heart.


1 Samuel 2:1
[ Hannah’s Prayer ] Then Hannah prayed and said: “My heart rejoices in the Lord; in the Lord my horn is lifted high. My mouth boasts over my enemies, for I delight in your deliverance.


1 Samuel 12:24
But be sure to fear the Lord and serve him faithfully with all your heart; consider what great things he has done for you.

The mind and heart connection brings forth healing. The laws of agreement.
 

valiant

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Psalm 103:2-5 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
David was speaking on behalf of himself' and he referred to natural healing in a general way not miraculous healing..
 

BenFTW

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Then why do *some* of those who cry out to Him for healing, NOT get healed?? Hmmm? God's healing of today is NOT for every one..
One could compare it to a believer praying that the Lord give them the Holy Spirit, when He already has. Likewise, someone begging/crying for healing is asking for something He has already provided through Jesus Christ's sufferings. Healing is available to all, but it is received by faith (I.e, the same way you received forgiveness of sins). VVe have to believe.

The very fact that your mindset is that healing is not for all expresses itself in your own results. That is a little forward to say, and I'm sorry ahead of time. However, consider that God speaks of expectation in prayer and He says, "believe that you receive and it shall come to pass." If you don't believe healing is for everyone, then that excludes you. As a matter of fact, many people have came to that conclusion because of their own lack of results. They then accept this mindset of doubt and disbelief, and no longer have faith to be healed but only hope that they get healed. This is problematic.

I myself am in need of healing. Do you want to guess what the Holy Spirit told me? "Believe." It is rather simple, and isn't just an acknowledgement that God can heal me. Its an expectation that He will, and has through Jesus. I can believe God can do a lot of things, but do I believe He will? His capability isn't in question, and His willingness is revealed in Jesus. I only need to believe.
 
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wolfwint

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SUBJECT: (see title of OP)

CONTEXT: (see Scriptures provided)

(Particular to me are the EMBOLDEN)

Isaiah 41:10 - Fear thou not; for I [am] with thee: be not dismayed; for I [am] thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Jeremiah 17:14 - Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou [art] my praise.
1 Peter 2:24 - Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Jeremiah 33:6 - Behold, I will bring it health and cure, and I will cure them, and will reveal unto them the abundance of peace and truth.

Isaiah 53:5 - But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Psalms 103:2-4 - Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: (Read More...)

James 5:15 - And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

James 5:14 - Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

James 5:16 - Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

3 John 1:2 - Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Proverbs 17:22 - A merry heart doeth good [like] a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.

Matthew 10:1 - And when he had called unto [him] his twelve disciples, he gave them power [against] unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

Psalms 127:3 - Lo, children [are] an heritage of the LORD: [and] the fruit of the womb [is his] reward.

Matthew 10:8 - Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Deuteronomy 7:15
- And the LORD will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all [them] that hate thee.


Dear brother, i dont know anybody who likes to be sick and handycapded, suffering under Diabetic, cancer, depression, rheumatism and so on. And for shure every sick person would welcome what you are stating from the scripture.
But can we really live in 2016 as our brother and sisters in f.e. in 52?
I dont think that we can simply take verses from the bibel which were spoken into a specific situation, to specific persons, out of the context for to say: so is it also 2016!
James is talking that healing is in the authority of the eldest in a church. And that the sick person should make the first step. Today so far i know this is very rare in the praxis.
Matth. 10 speaks from a special order from our Lord to the 12 apostels: he namend them, sent them only to the jews, they dont should take anything for their ministrie, wearing sandals and so on.

Deuteronomy 7:15 is a promiss to Gods folk of Isarael! and not for us christians today.

If we dont accept this, we will expierience disapointings and a "weak" christianity. Because we promiss something what God has not promissed to us! And what he not stands behind.

Of course the Lord heals today, but not in the way as he did in Jesus earth days and the apostels times. Yes, and in mission fields he is doing more, because of showing to people which serve another gods, that he is the only god.

Our order today is not to heal the people, but to preach and tell the gospel. Its better to go sick into heaven, then healthy into hell!
 

valiant

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One could compare it to a believer praying that the Lord give them the Holy Spirit, when He already has. Likewise, someone begging/crying for healing is asking for something He has already provided through Jesus Christ's sufferings. Healing is available to all, but it is received by faith (I.e, the same way you received forgiveness of sins). VVe have to believe.

The very fact that your mindset is that healing is not for all expresses itself in your own results. That is a little forward to say, and I'm sorry ahead of time. However, consider that God speaks of expectation in prayer and He says, "believe that you receive and it shall come to pass." If you don't believe healing is for everyone, then that excludes you. As a matter of fact, many people have came to that conclusion because of their own lack of results. They then accept this mindset of doubt and disbelief, and no longer have faith to be healed but only hope that they get healed. This is problematic.

I myself am in need of healing. Do you want to guess what the Holy Spirit told me? "Believe." It is rather simple, and isn't just an acknowledgement that God can heal me. Its an expectation that He will, and has through Jesus. I can believe God can do a lot of things, but do I believe He will? His capability isn't in question, and His willingness is revealed in Jesus. I only need to believe.
we await the result with bated breath
 
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I'll stand with you brother in obtaining what the Lord has provided for you in His death and resurrection....purchased by His blood...I bless you!


One could compare it to a believer praying that the Lord give them the Holy Spirit, when He already has. Likewise, someone begging/crying for healing is asking for something He has already provided through Jesus Christ's sufferings. Healing is available to all, but it is received by faith (I.e, the same way you received forgiveness of sins). VVe have to believe.

The very fact that your mindset is that healing is not for all expresses itself in your own results. That is a little forward to say, and I'm sorry ahead of time. However, consider that God speaks of expectation in prayer and He says, "believe that you receive and it shall come to pass." If you don't believe healing is for everyone, then that excludes you. As a matter of fact, many people have came to that conclusion because of their own lack of results. They then accept this mindset of doubt and disbelief, and no longer have faith to be healed but only hope that they get healed. This is problematic.

I myself am in need of healing. Do you want to guess what the Holy Spirit told me? "Believe." It is rather simple, and isn't just an acknowledgement that God can heal me. Its an expectation that He will, and has through Jesus. I can believe God can do a lot of things, but do I believe He will? His capability isn't in question, and His willingness is revealed in Jesus. I only need to believe.
 
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Faith is the medical treatment to heal and what was it the Lord said? When I return will I find any faith?. And then there was the blind man who was thrown into prison into a pitch dark room who's only prayer was Lord give me my sight.
 

BenFTW

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Dear brother, i dont know anybody who likes to be sick and handycapded, suffering under Diabetic, cancer, depression, rheumatism and so on. And for shure every sick person would welcome what you are stating from the scripture.
But can we really live in 2016 as our brother and sisters in f.e. in 52?
I dont think that we can simply take verses from the bibel which were spoken into a specific situation, to specific persons, out of the context for to say: so is it also 2016!
James is talking that healing is in the authority of the eldest in a church. And that the sick person should make the first step. Today so far i know this is very rare in the praxis.
Matth. 10 speaks from a special order from our Lord to the 12 apostels: he namend them, sent them only to the jews, they dont should take anything for their ministrie, wearing sandals and so on.

Deuteronomy 7:15 is a promiss to Gods folk of Isarael! and not for us christians today.

If we dont accept this, we will expierience disapointings and a "weak" christianity. Because we promiss something what God has not promissed to us! And what he not stands behind.

Of course the Lord heals today, but not in the way as he did in Jesus earth days and the apostels times. Yes, and in mission fields he is doing more, because of showing to people which serve another gods, that he is the only god.

Our order today is not to heal the people, but to preach and tell the gospel. Its better to go sick into heaven, then healthy into hell!
Any time the Gospel was preached, signs and wonders surrounded it to confirm the message. It happened in both the lives of Jesus and the apostles. If they are to be our example in preaching the Gospel, then we too should have confirming signs, wonders, and healing.
 

wolfwint

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Any time the Gospel was preached, signs and wonders surrounded it to confirm the message. It happened in both the lives of Jesus and the apostles. If they are to be our example in preaching the Gospel, then we too should have confirming signs, wonders, and healing.
But they do not! And we should not forgot that these sign were at first for people which dont know Jesus ore as proof that Jesus is the messajah
 

BenFTW

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But they do not! And we should not forgot that these sign were at first for people which dont know Jesus ore as proof that Jesus is the messajah
I beg to differ, there are many people coming to Christ through healing. They see the love of God extended through the healing and come to believe in Jesus Christ. It is a wonderful tool in presenting the heart of the Father.
 

John146

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Signs were always given to the nation of Israel for belief. They were conditioned their entire existence to believe based on signs and miracles. The Jews seek after a sign, but we walk by faith. Once the Jews were cut off, the signs ceased. Even Paul's ability to heal was no more.


Any time the Gospel was preached, signs and wonders surrounded it to confirm the message. It happened in both the lives of Jesus and the apostles. If they are to be our example in preaching the Gospel, then we too should have confirming signs, wonders, and healing.
 

BenFTW

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Signs were always given to the nation of Israel for belief. They were conditioned their entire existence to believe based on signs and miracles. The Jews seek after a sign, but we walk by faith. Once the Jews were cut off, the signs ceased. Even Paul's ability to heal was no more.
Romans 11:18-32 King James Version (KJV)

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
 

blue_ladybug

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One could compare it to a believer praying that the Lord give them the Holy Spirit, when He already has. Likewise, someone begging/crying for healing is asking for something He has already provided through Jesus Christ's sufferings. Healing is available to all, but it is received by faith (I.e, the same way you received forgiveness of sins). VVe have to believe.

The very fact that your mindset is that healing is not for all expresses itself in your own results. That is a little forward to say, and I'm sorry ahead of time. However, consider that God speaks of expectation in prayer and He says, "believe that you receive and it shall come to pass." If you don't believe healing is for everyone, then that excludes you. As a matter of fact, many people have came to that conclusion because of their own lack of results. They then accept this mindset of doubt and disbelief, and no longer have faith to be healed but only hope that they get healed. This is problematic.

I myself am in need of healing. Do you want to guess what the Holy Spirit told me? "Believe." It is rather simple, and isn't just an acknowledgement that God can heal me. Its an expectation that He will, and has through Jesus. I can believe God can do a lot of things, but do I believe He will? His capability isn't in question, and His willingness is revealed in Jesus. I only need to believe.
​I keep telling you, I DO BELIEVE. I DO expect to be healed because I KNOW he can heal me IF he WANTS to. I've been handicapped since age 5, do the math. That's 40 years ago, so where's my healing? It shouldn't have to take an entire lifetime for God to heal someone..
 

John146

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All Israel shall be saved after the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. Israel will be saved in the millennial kingdom.

Romans 11:18-32 King James Version (KJV)

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
 

BenFTW

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All Israel shall be saved after the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. Israel will be saved in the millennial kingdom.
Explain Messianic Judaism. Explain the many Jewish people coming to belief in the Messiah through Christians going to Israel and preaching the Gospel. Explain street healing videos of evangelist going through Israel healing the sick. Explain why we still see signs, wonders, and healing taking place if they have ceased? Maybe you should get out more, or just maybe, step out in faith to heal the sick and see your jaw drop as the Holy Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead is inside of you.
 
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For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, whom we proclaimed among you, Silvanus and Timothy and I, was not Yes and No, but in him it is always Yes. For all the promises of God find their yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. 2 Cor. 1:19,20

Whatever promises were given in the OT for the people of God and whatever promises given in the NT for the people of God are the same for US - God's children, sons/daughters. God's intent/plan from the beginning was GOOD - Satan fell, man fell and we now live in a fallen world where things are not perfect . . . God wanted wholeness in every situation in our lives but because we have an enemy who is also the enemy of God . . . we sometimes suffer. We have an adversary walking about seeking whom he may devour . . . . BUT PRAISE GOD - we know his END . . . We will reign victorious over everything!