lucifer , the holy roman catholic church .and the antichrist

[seer]

revelation ch 16 v 13 v 14. and i saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon[lucifer] and out of the mouth of the beast[ antichrist] . and out of the mouth of the false prophet.[a pope]for they are the spirit of devils. working miracles wich go forth unto the kings of the earth. and of the whole world. to gather them to the battle of that great day of god almighty. the satanic unholy trinty of lucifer is himself giving his power to the antichrist who rules a one world goverment and the false prophet a pope who will cause the world to worship the false messiah in jerusalem..........there is a one world religion uniting onder the authority of the holy roman catholic church ,,in the name of world peace working alongside the un .. [gods prophetic word reveals many false prophets will rise and decive many] all religions will unite and be ruled over by a pope in the future who will rule over this spiritual abomination..what is happening in the world today is this....a one world religion a one world goverment and soon a one world economy at the heart of this political and spiritual movement is the european union..................there will be a satanic anointing of lucifer.that will bring a demonic movement through the catholic church soon that will bring a wave of supernatrual power and miracles to bring the nations into the worship of the antichrist and recieve the mark we as christains need to study the word of god and see the political events in light of biblical prophecy and know that when this move comes the world religions will be one and pope will direct people to worship the antichrist who will sit in the rebuilt temple in jerusalem and proclaim himself that he is god.. but before this there will be a release of great demonic deception to complete satans plan for a one world religion bringing about a one world currency and enslave the nations through the economic mark of the antichrist....we as christains must start opening our eyes we are about to enter the great tribulation.................

[aspen]

You know seer

I think there aren't enough Catholic bashing threads on this board - make sure you come up with enough to cover the entire page ok?

[seer]

Originally Posted by aspen

You know seer

I think there aren't enough Catholic bashing threads on this board - make sure you come up with enough to cover the entire page ok?

i totally understand it looks harsh man it s a bold thing to be teaching but im not bashing catholics themselves,,, not at all.. but the teachings of the catholic church dont agree with the new testament,, thats another subject though, the catholic church meeting with other religions to bring world peace is in itself a good idea,[ to the world that is] but to chistains it is an abomination . to god am i saying all catholics are not saved no .. my family is from rome i was born in edinburgh but my mother is from rome and her family and they have been devout catholics for generations ,, is christainity the only truth is jesus the only way to heaven yes ,,, then what we are seeing is a formation of a one world religion and it is an abomination to god....alan

[aspen]

Originally Posted by seer

i totally understand it looks harsh man it s a bold thing to be teaching but im not bashing catholics themselves,,, not at all.. but the teachings of the catholic church dont agree with the new testament,, thats another subject though, the catholic church meeting with other religions to bring world peace is in itself a good idea,[ to the world that is] but to chistains it is an abomination . to god am i saying all catholics are not saved no .. my family is from rome i was born in edinburgh but my mother is from rome and her family and they have been devout catholics for generations ,, is christainity the only truth is jesus the only way to heaven yes ,,, then what we are seeing is a formation of a one world religion and it is an abomination to god....alan

Hmmm.....so I can bash American on these boards without bashing Americans?

Something tells me that I would not get too far without hearing about how I am attacking American's way of life.

BTW, I have no problem with people bringing up real differences between Catholics and Protestants - it is just the conspiracy, David Hunt, Ed Decker garbage, full of distorted, half truths that I have a problem with.

I didn't like it when the serpent used half truths to tempt Adam and Eve in the Garden, and I do not like it when anti-catholics use half truths about my church to promote their hatred.

[1still_waters]

Dude, I think you're grinding an ax that's been ground already to the stubs of the ax handle.

May God bless you for helping to fix us pore mixed up Catholics, but you will be Catholic someday!!!

[phil36]

Originally Posted by motojojo

May God bless you for helping to fix us pore mixed up Catholics, but you will be Catholic someday!!!

Mmmm, we are catholic, just not the roman persuasion, which as you say God Bless as you will one day be a tru Catholic..Evangelical.

[loveschild]

Any Christian who has done any study at all knows the Catholic church is a giant part of the anti christ. Why would any Christian be bashing a man for saying what is so?

[aspen]

Originally Posted by loveschild

Any Christian who has done any study at all knows the Catholic church is a giant part of the anti christ. Why would any Christian be bashing a man for saying what is so?

I am a Christian and I am Catholic and I am not an exception!

[1still_waters]

Originally Posted by loveschild

Any Christian who has done any study at all knows the Catholic church is a giant part of the anti christ. Why would any Christian be bashing a man for saying what is so?

There's a difference between truth telling and repetitive, over done, ax grinding.

This board has its fill of expose the Catholics posts, which are true. I think at a certain poont truth telling just crosses the line in to unneeded ax grinding.

it seems mean, how can you look at another with like beliefs and call them as antichrist?


would feel quite wrong to me

If the Catholic Church are anti-christ, and the definition of 'anti-christ' is someone that does not believe in Christ coming in the flesh, thats the Biblical definition, then they are only pretending to believe that Christ came in the flesh??? Also If the Catholic Church, to whom which the vast majority of Christians have belonged to then they to are liars as well? this would be a significant problem, it would the same as saying the the majority of believing Christians that ever lived were in fact, anti-christs, pretending to be christians, which would be a conumdrum, for the definition of a Christian is confession that Jesus Christ came in the flesh (1 John 4)!

the antichrist is the anti thesis of christ..... this does not mean he does not believe as satan was there in the heavens (he was kicked out of heaven if you remember) so he does beleive, it is simply what he wants to do is to lead people AWAY from the truth, usually by mixing truth with falsehood, thereby decieving even the elect if that were possible.....

this is only an exact definition without finger pointing or name calling......

[dscherck]

Why is it whenever there's a post about some weird conspiracy theory regarding the Catholic Church, they never seem to break it up into paragraphs or use proper punctuation. Yah know, for something that supposedly so serious, you'd think they'd at least take the time to make it legible.

Anyways, did anyone else really understand what the original poster was talking about? Us Catholics are worshipping the anti-christ or something because the Pope dared to talk to other religious leaders?

Originally Posted by Zeni

the antichrist is the anti thesis of christ..... this does not mean he does not believe as satan was there in the heavens (he was kicked out of heaven if you remember) so he does beleive, it is simply what he wants to do is to lead people AWAY from the truth, usually by mixing truth with falsehood, thereby decieving even the elect if that were possible.....

this is only an exact definition without finger pointing or name calling......

John gives the definition of the anti-christ: "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the anti-christ"

John goes onto say that the confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and come in the flesh is the definition of the Christian believer and is 'of God' "Whosoever confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God."


So the only biblical definition given is that the anti-christs, do no confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and He as God did not come in the flesh, that is the only definition given in the Bible.

Satan never confessed that Jesus was the Son of God, or that God came in the flesh, Satan demanded that Jesus worship him. Satan said "IF thou be the Son of God?" Jesus said "Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve."

- 'Then the devil leaveth'

The Devil did not confess Christ as Lord or that He was the Son of God, but tempted and questioned the Son of God.

It therefore stands as John says that he who does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh as the Son of God, is not from God, and is the anti-christ.

The Roman Catholic Church indeed confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and is come in the flesh, therefore the RCC cannot meet the biblical definition of an anti-christ.

[seer]

Originally Posted by aspen

Hmmm.....so I can bash American on these boards without bashing Americans?

Something tells me that I would not get too far without hearing about how I am attacking American's way of life.

BTW, I have no problem with people bringing up real differences between Catholics and Protestants - it is just the conspiracy, David Hunt, Ed Decker garbage, full of distorted, half truths that I have a problem with.

I didn't like it when the serpent used half truths to tempt Adam and Eve in the Garden, and I do not like it when anti-catholics use half truths about my church to promote their hatred.

im not being motivated by hatred ill share more i came from a catholic background i led all my family to the lord when i shared the gospel with them debating the teachings of the catholic hurch is another thread in itself what i will say is sincerley iam not against catholics but i will tell you were i stand the teaching of the vatican is not new testament christianity... that will offend no matter how i say it... but i know my heart and it isnt unloving in anyway the thread was about the reality of the vatican uniting all religions into one...and deosnt tell a muslim they need jesus and he is the only way it deosnt stand for jesus being the absolutley only way to heaven but pope benedict can stand in a mosque in instanbul and a muslim leader can pray to allah and the pope can face mecca and im somehow being anticatholic ,,no iam against the teachings of the catholic church not the people ...alan..

[HolyTriX]

Sometimes the truth hurts, but atleast take the pain..

[seer]

Originally Posted by loveschild

Any Christian who has done any study at all knows the Catholic church is a giant part of the anti christ. Why would any Christian be bashing a man for saying what is so?

appreciate your support sister,,,,,, alan

[seer]

Originally Posted by Cup-of-Ruin

John gives the definition of the anti-christ: "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God, and this is the spirit of the anti-christ"

John goes onto say that the confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and come in the flesh is the definition of the Christian believer and is 'of God' "Whosoever confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God."


So the only biblical definition given is that the anti-christs, do no confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and He as God did not come in the flesh, that is the only definition given in the Bible.

Satan never confessed that Jesus was the Son of God, or that God came in the flesh, Satan demanded that Jesus worship him. Satan said "IF thou be the Son of God?" Jesus said "Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve."

- 'Then the devil leaveth'

The Devil did not confess Christ as Lord or that He was the Son of God, but tempted and questioned the Son of God.

It therefore stands as John says that he who does not confess that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh as the Son of God, is not from God, and is the anti-christ.

The Roman Catholic Church indeed confess that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and is come in the flesh, therefore the RCC cannot meet the biblical definition of an anti-christ.

you are completley wrong about you definition of what the bible actually says about the antichrist,, 2 thessalonians,, ch 2 v 3] that day shall not come unless there comes a falling away first and that [ man] of sin be revaled the son of perdition. there is a falling away from the true christain faith .including the vatican and the antichrist here spoken of by the apostle paul is called the man not a spirit he wil be a real man...i could share alot of scriptures but this one at least proves what your saying is totally wrong....alan

[aspen]

Originally Posted by seer

im not being motivated by hatred ill share more i came from a catholic background i led all my family to the lord when i shared the gospel with them debating the teachings of the catholic hurch is another thread in itself what i will say is sincerley iam not against catholics but i will tell you were i stand the teaching of the vatican is not new testament christianity... that will offend no matter how i say it... but i know my heart and it isnt unloving in anyway the thread was about the reality of the vatican uniting all religions into one...and deosnt tell a muslim they need jesus and he is the only way it deosnt stand for jesus being the absolutley only way to heaven but pope benedict can stand in a mosque in instanbul and a muslim leader can pray to allah and the pope can face mecca and im somehow being anticatholic ,,no iam against the teachings of the catholic church not the people ...alan..

Let me be clear; it is your conspiracy theories, disinformation and lack of understanding of Catholic doctrine, presented as fact that is offensive. I find nothing offensive about pointing out differences between Catholic and Protestant doctrine.