I used to be all for "rapture". Now; if it happens or not, just remaines to be seen. The best evidense against the rapture is Pastor Steven Andersons; "After the trib". The best evidense for; "The rapture movie 2015". I do think the end of the world is this century. I think the mark; is the Verichip.
The "Rapture"?
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Why are you so worried about the mark?
Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
If you hear an angel talk in a loud voice about the mark then you know whatever they are talking about is the mark. There will be no guesswork then.
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
If you can't buy or sell without the mark then you know that it is the mark of the beast. If you use the word "verichip" then the Bible isn't taken literally. It is about a mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.
People can now print a circuit board on their body and they can also use conductive ink.
People use to think that credit cards were the mark of the beast. If the beast was to accomplish this system, he should probably keep the cost low and make it a mark or else it might not be affordable with several billions of people.
But God doesn't reveal what the mark is and I'm not exactly worried about it because the Church will be raptured.
Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
If you hear an angel talk in a loud voice about the mark then you know whatever they are talking about is the mark. There will be no guesswork then.
Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
If you can't buy or sell without the mark then you know that it is the mark of the beast. If you use the word "verichip" then the Bible isn't taken literally. It is about a mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.
People can now print a circuit board on their body and they can also use conductive ink.
People use to think that credit cards were the mark of the beast. If the beast was to accomplish this system, he should probably keep the cost low and make it a mark or else it might not be affordable with several billions of people.
But God doesn't reveal what the mark is and I'm not exactly worried about it because the Church will be raptured.
i don't think it's a literal physical mark
but think of marks throughout history. Leader's left their marks as a stamp or wax seal that was unique to them. It had their name, title and dominion. For Jesus it would be- Lord Jesus Christ, Creator and Saviour of the heavens and Earth.
I believe the beast will set up his power so that we spiritually have his mark, and if we don't submit to the name title and dominion we wont be able to buy and sell.
but think of marks throughout history. Leader's left their marks as a stamp or wax seal that was unique to them. It had their name, title and dominion. For Jesus it would be- Lord Jesus Christ, Creator and Saviour of the heavens and Earth.
I believe the beast will set up his power so that we spiritually have his mark, and if we don't submit to the name title and dominion we wont be able to buy and sell.
Hi TMS,
The fact that the technology for sub-dermal chip implants is here and will continue to evolve, this in itself is a testimony to truth and accuracy of God's word. This is exactly why the system of electronic crediting and debiting has evolved. Currently, cards and phone apps. allow a person to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts, but this will eventually be replaced by the coming mark. Click on the link below:
Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News
The fact that the technology for sub-dermal chip implants is here and will continue to evolve, this in itself is a testimony to truth and accuracy of God's word. This is exactly why the system of electronic crediting and debiting has evolved. Currently, cards and phone apps. allow a person to electronically credit and debit their bank accounts, but this will eventually be replaced by the coming mark. Click on the link below:
Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News
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You've got to willingly accept the coming false messiah first before receiving his mark of Rev.13. The mark is for buying and selling per the end of Rev.13, but if one is deceived by that coming false messiah then they already have his spiritual mark are prepared to bow to him in place of Jesus Christ.
Matt. 25:13 ...know neither the DAY nor the hour....
April 13 something is suppose to happen. The rapture? Forget it.
Luke 12:40. He'll come in an hour that you think not....
So maybe it will be April 13 because I think not! I need to go take a nap. I hope I wake up in the clouds after a trumpet blast spoils my nap. I'm just saying.... I want outta here!
April 13 something is suppose to happen. The rapture? Forget it.
Luke 12:40. He'll come in an hour that you think not....
So maybe it will be April 13 because I think not! I need to go take a nap. I hope I wake up in the clouds after a trumpet blast spoils my nap. I'm just saying.... I want outta here!
The "mark" is spiritual. You don't need an actual "mark" in order to buy or sell. The passage is clear:
Revelation 13:17
and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
You can have one of three things: 1) the Mark, 2) the Name, or 3) the Number of his name. Thus all this talk about a computer chip is nonsense.
The "mark" simply means you are "set aside" and/or "identified" such as it is used here:
Genesis 4:15
And the Lord said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him.
Job 10:14
If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity.
Psalm 37:37
Mark the blameless man, and observe the upright; For the future of that man is peace.
Ezekiel 9:4
and the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
Ezekiel 44:5
And the Lord said to me, “Son of man, mark well, see with your eyes and hear with your ears, all that I say to you concerning all the ordinances of the house of the Lord and all its laws. Mark well who may enter the house and all who go out from the sanctuary.
Those who follow the Beast, which is Islamic Empire to the North of Israel, will be marked, or known to God. They will also be known to the Beast. The Beast Islamic Empire will force all those under their control to swear allegiance to them or they will be punished by not being able to buy or sell. We have nothing to worry about here. The "mark" only applies to Muslims and people living under their control.
Revelation 13:17
and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
You can have one of three things: 1) the Mark, 2) the Name, or 3) the Number of his name. Thus all this talk about a computer chip is nonsense.
The "mark" simply means you are "set aside" and/or "identified" such as it is used here:
Genesis 4:15
And the Lord said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him.
Job 10:14
If I sin, then You mark me, And will not acquit me of my iniquity.
Psalm 37:37
Mark the blameless man, and observe the upright; For the future of that man is peace.
Ezekiel 9:4
and the Lord said to him, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
Ezekiel 44:5
And the Lord said to me, “Son of man, mark well, see with your eyes and hear with your ears, all that I say to you concerning all the ordinances of the house of the Lord and all its laws. Mark well who may enter the house and all who go out from the sanctuary.
Those who follow the Beast, which is Islamic Empire to the North of Israel, will be marked, or known to God. They will also be known to the Beast. The Beast Islamic Empire will force all those under their control to swear allegiance to them or they will be punished by not being able to buy or sell. We have nothing to worry about here. The "mark" only applies to Muslims and people living under their control.
It actually says this:
Revelation 16:2
So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.
It doesn't say the sores appear where the "mark" is, just that those with the mark receive sores.
Revelation 16:2
So the first went and poured out his bowl upon the earth, and a foul and loathsome sore came upon the men who had the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image.
It doesn't say the sores appear where the "mark" is, just that those with the mark receive sores.
Notice that it takes understanding or wisdom.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
The Christian scripture here does not spell the numbers out long-hand, but uses gematria. This was a common practice in both Hebrew and Greek. In this case, the Christian scripture used three Greek characters representing 600, 60, and 6.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
The Christian scripture here does not spell the numbers out long-hand, but uses gematria. This was a common practice in both Hebrew and Greek. In this case, the Christian scripture used three Greek characters representing 600, 60, and 6.
Reading from left to right, the first Greek letter, χ (pronounced “chi”) has a numerical value of 600.
The middle Greek letter, ξ, is pronounced “xi”, and it has a numerical value of 60.
The third Greek letter, ς, is pronounced “stigma”. Although its numerical value has changed since the first century, back in the first century, the stigma had a numerical value of 6. We might also note that the stigma has a literal meaning of “scar, mark, or badge of service”. (“In the name of Allah” = Bismillah = 666)
Islam teaches that there is no god but Allah, Allah has no son and is not a father. The belief that God has no Son is encoded in the Koran in several places. It is embossed inside the Dome of the Rock in two foot high Arabic letters. I John 2:22 says: “Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist.” It is apparent and simply stated that the belief of Islam is antichrist.
The middle Greek letter, ξ, is pronounced “xi”, and it has a numerical value of 60.
The third Greek letter, ς, is pronounced “stigma”. Although its numerical value has changed since the first century, back in the first century, the stigma had a numerical value of 6. We might also note that the stigma has a literal meaning of “scar, mark, or badge of service”. (“In the name of Allah” = Bismillah = 666)
Islam teaches that there is no god but Allah, Allah has no son and is not a father. The belief that God has no Son is encoded in the Koran in several places. It is embossed inside the Dome of the Rock in two foot high Arabic letters. I John 2:22 says: “Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He who denies the Father and the Son is antichrist.” It is apparent and simply stated that the belief of Islam is antichrist.
Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
This is the battle of Armageddon,when all nations attack Israel under the rule of the man of sin,and the Bible says that God comes back with His saints,so He would of had to have taken them out of the world,to come back with them.
God will step down on the Mount of Olives,which the 2 angels told the disciples that Jesus would return the same way He ascended up,which He was ascended up from the Mount of Olives.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
This is the battle of Armageddon,when Jesus fights the world,and saves Israel,and His army is with Him,which is the saints which were in heaven.
God will take His saints out of the world,and come back with His saints to fight the world.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
This is the battle of Armageddon,when all nations attack Israel under the rule of the man of sin,and the Bible says that God comes back with His saints,so He would of had to have taken them out of the world,to come back with them.
God will step down on the Mount of Olives,which the 2 angels told the disciples that Jesus would return the same way He ascended up,which He was ascended up from the Mount of Olives.
Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
This is the battle of Armageddon,when Jesus fights the world,and saves Israel,and His army is with Him,which is the saints which were in heaven.
God will take His saints out of the world,and come back with His saints to fight the world.
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