Two Trees In The Garden

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Magenta

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Jesus is not the tree of life, God created the tree's in the garden on the third day of creation, so how does Jesus create Himself on the third day. While existing before the creation of the world. And Hebrews 1:10 says that Jesus created the heavens and earth. "You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands."

So how did Jesus create Himself? He already existed before the world was created. John 17:5 "
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed."
It is metaphorical. Do you understand metaphor? Also, it does not say those two specific trees were created on that day, only that they were also there. You may as well ask how did Jesus cause Mary to become pregnant so she could give birth to Him.

The LORD God planted a garden toward the east, in Eden; and there He placed the man whom He had formed. Out of the ground the LORD God caused to grow every tree that is pleasing to the sight and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Now a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden; and from there it divided and became four rivers.…
 
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It’s something I have been looking at .It would seem to indicate three trees. (1)Tree that provide food Another(2) Christ, the tree of life that provide eternal life and last (3) the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which could represent the letter of the law that kills .

Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree(1) that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree (2) of life also in the midst of the garden, and the (3) tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Not sure why the word and is added between the two?

It would seem if both the tree of life and the tree of knowledge were the same it would read ; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, as the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

If they would eaten of Christ (the tree of eternal life) rather than the tree of the knowledge of good and evil they would of lived forever.
 

Magenta

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It’s something I have been looking at .It would seem to indicate three trees. (1)Tree that provide food Another(2) Christ, the tree of life that provide eternal life and last (3) the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which could represent the letter of the law that kills .

Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree(1) that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree (2) of life also in the midst of the garden, and the (3) tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Not sure why the word and is added between the two?

It would seem if both the tree of life and the tree of knowledge were the same it would read ; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, as the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

If they would eaten of Christ (the tree of eternal life) rather than the tree of the knowledge of good and evil they would of lived forever.
Every tree represent all the tees that were there for food, so it could have been quite a few, nut trees as well as fruit trees and even trees good for sap such as maple. I agree that Adam and Eve did not eat from the tree of life... in fact, after they sinned, God placed cherubim to guard it so they could not eat from it and live forever in their sinful state. Some claim A&E must have eaten from it in order just to be alive but this is false, as God had given them life. The tree of life prefigures Christ and our need of Him to be reborn spiritually into new life, after first being born of the flesh after the fashion of the first Adam.
 

stonesoffire

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Jesus is not a real Lamb either. I believe the two trees in the garden are belief systems. One - the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is trying to be like God apart from God - by whether we do or not do good or evil. It is what "we do" even if it is for good by our own will-power and flesh.

All D.I.Y. self-righteousness/holiness mindsets are still living from the fruit of eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

The tree of Life represents living by the life of Christ which is totally dependent on Him alone. This belief system is what the New Covenant is all about. Christ is in us and we are saved by His life manifesting in and through us.

The two trees are representations of belief systems. It is a shadow of the real things. A typology - same as the Law of Moses was.
Totally agree..

The natural man knows what is good and what is evil. The spiritual man knows the heavens, and the Kingdom of God. The tree of life.

We are also a garden in our hearts....The scriptures in the OT are alive with symbolism of what occurred...what is occurring...and what is future.
 
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BTW...

Who is this tree?

Ezekiel 31:8
"The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty"
 

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BTW...

Who is this tree?

Ezekiel 31:8
"The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty"

Ezekiel 31:8 (NASB)
‘The cedars in God’s garden could not match it;
The cypresses could not compare with its boughs,
And the plane trees could not match its branches.
No tree in God’s garden could compare with it in its beauty.

Begin with verse 1 and read in context. It tells you who's being talked about.
 

stonesoffire

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BTW...

Who is this tree?

Ezekiel 31:8
"The cedars in the garden of God could not hide him: the fir trees were not like his boughs, and the chesnut trees were not like his branches; nor any tree in the garden of God was like unto him in his beauty"
Pharoah/ Lucifer/ satan
 
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Johnny_B

God states in Hosea 14:8 that He [God] is like a great fir tree

Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Tree of life or the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil were created on the third day.
 
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Every tree represent all the tees that were there for food, so it could have been quite a few, nut trees as well as fruit trees and even trees good for sap such as maple.
I would agree different kinds of food. When they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil it was like drinking the poison of an Asp, used to represent Satan, the father of lies. I would liken it to the letter of the law which kills while the tree of life the Spirit of the “law of faith” which creates new life.

I agree that Adam and Eve did not eat from the tree of life... in fact, after they sinned, God placed cherubim to guard it so they could not eat from it and live forever in their sinful state. Some claim A&E must have eaten from it in order just to be alive but this is false, as God had given them life. The tree of life prefigures Christ and our need of Him to be reborn spiritually into new life, after first being born of the flesh after the fashion of the first Adam.
I think it is represented by three, three being the end of the matter when using three in parables. Sort of a picture of the three crosses with Christ in the center as the tree of life.

I think the word and in Genesis 2:9 means another as in adding or otherwise it would read the tree of life as the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It was the tree of knowledge and evil that they did eat from. I am speculating but most likely an almond tree which is used in many places to indicate a sign to the rebellious.

If the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil where the same there would be a conflict , I believe at least for this day (not a salvation issue). God did not want them to learn from experience but did desire that they follow the commandment.

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
 
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Pharoah/ Lucifer/ satan
This is precisely the answer I was looking for. Thank you for that.

:cool:

Not only was Lucifer/Satan a Serpent in the Garden of Eden, he was also a Cedar Tree.

On top of that, there was ENVY in the Garden of Eden. Envy is a SIN.

Thus, there was sin in the Garden of Eden...

Ezekiel 31:9
"I have made him fair by the multitude of his branches: so that all the trees of Eden, that were in the garden of God, envied him"


I find it very interesting that this topic is never talked about.

Lucy was a Tree?

Was the Forbidden Fruit Pine Cones?



Don't forget how the New Agers and Gnostics LOVE their Pineal Gland worship.

What does the Pine Gland do?

It releases Melatonin... the SLEEP chemical...

1 Thessalonians 5:7
"For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night"

Now study the Parable of the Two Eagles and the Cedar Tree and see that it is a picture of the Ark of the Covenant with the Cedar in the middle...





And then compare that to the Two Witnesses who were Candle Sticks and Trees at the same time...


 

Magenta

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If the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil where the same there would be a conflict, I believe at least for this day (not a salvation issue). God did not want them to learn from experience but did desire that they follow the commandment.
I have never heard anyone suggesting they were the same tree. Always it is two different trees :)