Locust beans

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Plenty of yummy insects in Florida.
S'alright. You can go for it. I'm good. (Notice: will eat rodents but I draw the line at bugs. lol)
 
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All my life I have been told a vegetarian will not eat anything with eyes.............What kind of vegetarians are there? Forgive the wanter off OP.
They won't eat potatoes?


(I have to ask. You're a brave guy when it comes to food. Would you or have you eaten bugs?)
 

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Only as a last resort......

They won't eat potatoes?


(I have to ask. You're a brave guy when it comes to food. Would you or have you eaten bugs?)
 
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Nom nom nom.... yummy locust!






I want one of these guys to keep spiders away. :eek:

 
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I found out recently that John the Baptist was more likely eating locust beans and honey. Not locusts. I looked up locust beans on the internet. There's some grown in Africa that are different from those grown in Isreal. Which are carob pods. The yummy insects are not always available.
I am curious where it was you "found out recently that John the Baptist was more likely eating locust beans and honey. Not locusts."
 

mar09

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Only as a last resort......
I have not been able to check the Leviticus passage yet (if someone has it now, can u post it, thanks), but I am not sure if the June bug or beetle is among the clean animals mentioned. I am only remembering visits to relatives in central Luzon, where the salagubang (trans. beetle) is a common fare. Now I do not remember if I personally ate that because I was quite young, but maybe I did! What I recall also is that we played with this and the salaguinto, its relative wc has shinier wings. [There is a folksong wc goes Sitsiritsit, alibangbang, salaginto, salagubang... Now I haven't even got a translation of what alibangbang is.]

But this lady speaks of the june bug.. see what she has to say: For a change, something exotic–‘adobong salagubang’ | Inquirer lifestyle

SHE GREW up eating adobong salagubang. And, to this day, Aileen Joson-Syyap
still enjoys this exotic dish the way she enjoys eating butong pakwan (dried
watermelon seeds), while watching TV or entertaining friends with a glass of
wine in her house in Capitol Hills, Quezon City.

While growing up in Cabanatuan City, Nueva Ecija, where salagubang (june
beetle or june bug) thrives and is a household staple, Syyap never had an
inkling that eating salagubang could be such a big deal for others. Yes, most
people find the quirky winged-insect yucky and disgusting.

Yet, Syyap savors the experience of running her hands through a mound of
crispy salagubang, picking out the stoutest member, breaking the beetle in half
through its head and sipping the flesh out from its belly...

And another, from southern Luzon.
Eating Bugs In The Philippines | Invasivore.org

Each year in Batangas, Philippines, a festival is held to help eradicate a major crop pest. Guest contributor Karen Uy describes the festival, which centers on a cooking contest with a unique featured ingredient: June beetles (Leucopholis irrorata), or as locals call them, salagubang. I was first introduced to this insect as a young city girl living in Manila, Philippines. At the time, I sincerely believed insects belong crushed to death under flip flops and never in one’s mouth. So when my mother served beetles sautéed in soy sauce, my first thought was “No Way!” After a long consideration, I decided to try one as a dare. To my surprise, the dare became an awakening experience as I realized eating the bugs was fun and tasty!
 
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I am curious where it was you "found out recently that John the Baptist was more likely eating locust beans and honey. Not locusts."

Doing an 'indepth' study of Matthew. He mentioned it was a possibility. After googling it, it is mentioned on the internet by several sources. But, I suppose since it isnt a foreigner thing in other cultures, and God knew they ate bugs since He mentioned it, probably was real locusts since protein is filling. I lasted two days being a vegetarian. Haha. I tried it like three or four times, I give up.
I guess there was no bugs for the Israelites in the deserts they wandered in since all they had was manna. But I thought locusts only swarmed. And were grasshoppers that morphed into locusts, so I was thinking that wouldn't makes sense because there had to be a pestilence to have locusts.
 
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Pamella

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I have not been able to check the Leviticus passage yet (if someone has it now, can u post it, thanks), but I am not sure if the June bug or beetle is among the clean animals mentioned. I am only remembering visits to relatives in central Luzon, where the salagubang (trans. beetle) is a common fare. Now I do not remember if I personally ate that because I was quite young, but maybe I did! What I recall also is that we played with this and the salaguinto, its relative wc has shinier wings. [There is a folksong wc goes Sitsiritsit, alibangbang, salaginto, salagubang... Now I haven't even got a translation of what alibangbang is.]

But this lady speaks of the june bug.. see what she has to say: For a change, something exotic–‘adobong salagubang’ | Inquirer lifestyle

SHE GREW up eating adobong salagubang. And, to this day, Aileen Joson-Syyap
still enjoys this exotic dish the way she enjoys eating butong pakwan (dried
watermelon seeds), while watching TV or entertaining friends with a glass of
wine in her house in Capitol Hills, Quezon City.

While growing up in Cabanatuan City, Nueva Ecija, where salagubang (june
beetle or june bug) thrives and is a household staple, Syyap never had an
inkling that eating salagubang could be such a big deal for others. Yes, most
people find the quirky winged-insect yucky and disgusting.

Yet, Syyap savors the experience of running her hands through a mound of
crispy salagubang, picking out the stoutest member, breaking the beetle in half
through its head and sipping the flesh out from its belly...

And another, from southern Luzon.
Eating Bugs In The Philippines | Invasivore.org

Each year in Batangas, Philippines, a festival is held to help eradicate a major crop pest. Guest contributor Karen Uy describes the festival, which centers on a cooking contest with a unique featured ingredient: June beetles (Leucopholis irrorata), or as locals call them, salagubang. I was first introduced to this insect as a young city girl living in Manila, Philippines. At the time, I sincerely believed insects belong crushed to death under flip flops and never in one’s mouth. So when my mother served beetles sautéed in soy sauce, my first thought was “No Way!” After a long consideration, I decided to try one as a dare. To my surprise, the dare became an awakening experience as I realized eating the bugs was fun and tasty!

Glad you found it to be fun. I will pass, tho. :)
 
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Doing an 'indepth' study of Matthew. He mentioned it was a possibility. After googling it, it is mentioned on the internet by several sources. But, I suppose since it isnt a foreigner thing in other cultures, and God knew they ate bugs since He mentioned it, probably was real locusts since protein is filling. I lasted two days being a vegetarian. Haha. I tried it like three or four times, I give up.
I guess there was no bugs for the Israelites in the deserts they wandered in since all they had was manna. But I thought locusts only swarmed. And were grasshoppers that morphed into locusts, so I was thinking that wouldn't makes sense because there had to be a pestilence to have locusts.
I think I'd rather eat manna than locusts.
 

mar09

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I think I'd rather eat manna than locusts.
Would say that too... but finally got this.
Lev 11:21

Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
Lev 11:22

Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
Lev 11:23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

But come to think of it, to some cultures, beef is a no-no, to others, pork is. But whatever, I u have recipe for manna, do tell us.
 
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I found out recently that John the Baptist was more likely eating locust beans and honey. Not locusts. I looked up locust beans on the internet. There's some grown in Africa that are different from those grown in Isreal. Which are carob pods. The yummy insects are not always available.
Mat 3:4 And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey.

אַרְבֶּה
'arbeh
ar-beh'
From H7235; a locust (from its rapid increase): - grasshopper, locust.

We see that in the Old Testament it describes locust as this.

ἀκρίς
akris
ak-rece'
Apparently from the same as G206; a locust (as pointed, or as lighting on the top of vegetation): - locust.

But in the New Testament describing what John ate it describes it like this.

Rev_9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
Rev_9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

But in Revelation is describes these locusts as the same as the locusts John ate,which the only thing that makes sense to describe these locusts,if it is describing the flying insect,for a plant food would not make sense,nor apply.

So when it says lighted upon vegetation-locust,it must be describing the flying insect that lands atop the vegetation to eat it,if it has the same meaning for what John ate,and the locust in Revelation,which can only apply to the flying insect,for those locusts moved around like the flying insect,which they would not move around like a plant.

It would seem like he actually ate the flying insect.
 

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We just studied this in Greek, in the Mark passage.

As several have posted - it definitely was a clean insect and that is what John the Baptist ate.

I don't think it has anything to do with vegetarians, more the western dislike for eating insects. It is amazing what nonsense you can find on the internet these days.
 

Pamella

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We just studied this in Greek, in the Mark passage.

As several have posted - it definitely was a clean insect and that is what John the Baptist ate.

I don't think it has anything to do with vegetarians, more the western dislike for eating insects. It is amazing what nonsense you can find on the internet these days.
Well, I got the info from a pastor/teacher. And no one person knows everything in that huge bible, even if they are called by God as a teacher/pastor. I'm not sure anybody thought this topic had to do with vegetarians?
 
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Angela53510

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Well, I got the info from a pastor/teacher. And no one person knows everything in that huge bible, even if they are called by God as a teacher/pastor. I'm not sure anybody thought this topic had to do with vegetarians?

Well, I am a pastor, and I am taking 2nd year seminary Greek. My prof is on the translation committees for the ESV and NIV. We looked it up in Bauer (BAGD) a huge lexicon. It was "insects."

Not to put your pastor down, but he probably heard it somewhere, just like I did a long time ago, and my preference was for some kind of bean, esp. because I am a vegetarian. But it simply does not reflect the truth of either Hebrew or Greek.

Enough people here have already posted the actual word in Greek. But feel free to look it up on-line, but in a reputable and scholarly source, not some blog or opinion of some hopeful western who doesn't want to eat insects.

Besides, it only makes sense. John lived in the wilderness (as in desert). No beans growing there, only insects.
 

tanakh

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Is a name of an insect in Ancient Hebrew so similar to a name of a bean in Ancient Hebrew? I'm thinking what are the chances that a language that old would use the same words we use in English?

After all, there are no rabbits in the Bible. It's just a word translators guessed at unaware that geography was that different. (There are rabbits now in that part of the Middle East, but they were imported centuries later from the same place every other continent got them from -- Great Britain.)

If someone is trying to convince me two words are alike in a foreign language simply because they're alike in English, I'm a skeptic.
Just thought to mention that Rabbits didn't originate from Britain. They came from Spain. The Romans arrived in Spain around 200BC found Rabbits and started breeding them. So its one less thing Great Britain can be blamed for lol
 

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I found out recently that John the Baptist was more likely eating locust beans and honey. Not locusts. I looked up locust beans on the internet. There's some grown in Africa that are different from those grown in Isreal. Which are carob pods. The yummy insects are not always available.
John the baptist must have been very slim. How many Locusts would you need to eat for a decent meal? If his diet was Locust beans did he have a flatulence problem? Either way there must have been poor pickings in the wilderness.