Daniels 70 weeks

[dalconn]

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Seventy Weeks of Prophecy (Daniel 9:20-27)


Chapter 9 verse 25 tells us that the event that will trigger the 490 years is a decree (see Neh 2:5) permitting the Jews to go back to Jerusalem and rebuild the city. (It is interesting that the event that will trigger the last seven years of this period will be the covenant of the Antichrist to protect the Jews. We find a decree at the beginning and at the end of the 490 years.) History tells us there were four different decrees relating to Jerusalem: Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes all made decrees concerning the rebuilding of the temple (Ezra 1; 6, and 7); and Artaxerxes decreed that Nehemiah could return to rebuild the walls (Neh 2). This was in 445 B.C., and it is the decree Dan 9:25 is talking about; it took place nearly 100 years after Daniel received the message from God. Gabriel said that there would be a total of sixty-nine weeks, seven and sixty-two, between the giving of the decree and the arrival of Messiah, the Prince, in Jerusalem (69 x 7 = 483 years). Keep in mind that "prophetic years" in the Bible are not 365 days, but 360 days long. It has been calculated by scholars that there were 483 prophetic years between the decree in 445 B.C. and the day that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday (cf. The Coming Prince by Sir Robert Anderson, Kregel, 1967).


But Gabriel divided these 483 years into two parts-seven weeks (7 x 7 = 49 years), and sixty-two weeks (62 x 7 = 434 years). Why? Well, it took forty-nine years to rebuild Jerusalem, and this was done (as Gabriel said) "in troublesome times." Read Nehemiah and see how difficult a task it was to restore the city. Then, 434 years later we come to Messiah, the Prince, who is "cut off' (His death on the cross) for the sins of the world. It was His death on the cross that accomplished the purposes given in v. 24. What followed His death? Did Israel accept Him and His message? No. They lied about Him, persecuted His messengers, stoned Stephen, and refused to acknowledge His kingship. What happened? Rome came and destroyed the city and wrecked the temple. The nation "cut off" Jesus Christ, so He cut them off from being a nation. Until May 14, 1948, Israel was not a free nation.


Rome is called "the people of the prince that shall come." Who is this prince? Not "Messiah the Prince," because that refers to Christ. "The prince that shall come" is Antichrist. He will be the leader of the restored Roman Empire. So, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 was but an illustration of a future invasion and destruction to be led by Antichrist. This prince will make an agreement with the Jews to protect them from the other nations, and this agreement will be set for seven years. This final seven years is the completion of Daniel's 490-year period. Between the death of Christ and the signing of this covenant you have the entire Age of the Church, a "great parenthesis" in God's program. The 490 years are in operation only when Israel is in God's will as God's people. When Israel crucified Christ, she was set aside and the "prophetic clock" stopped ticking. But when the Antichrist signs his pact with Israel, then the last seven years of Daniel's "seventy weeks" will start being fulfilled. This seven-year period is known as the Tribulation, or the time of Jacob's trouble. It is described in Rev 6-19.


After three and a half years, Gog and her allies will invade Palestine (see Ezek 38-39), and God will judge them. Antichrist will invade the land, break his covenant, and set himself up as world dictator. He will stop all worship at the Jewish temple (see 2 Thess 2) and force the world to worship him and his image. This is the abomination of desolation (see Matt 24:15; John 5:43; Rev 13:1). How will this period end? Jesus Christ will return to earth, meet the rebel armies at Armageddon, and defeat them (Rev 19:11-21).

 

[valiant]

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Seventy Weeks of Prophecy (Daniel 9:20-27)


Chapter 9 verse 25 tells us that the event that will trigger the 490 years is a decree (see Neh 2:5) permitting the Jews to go back to Jerusalem and rebuild the city.

It doesn't mention a decree (we pick the one that suits our interpretation). It says 'from the going forth of the word to rebuild Jerusalem.

That going forth of the word is spoken of in v23, 'at the beginning of your supplications the word went forth,' so its time is given. But it doesn't suit the theories.

(It is interesting that the event that will trigger the last seven years of this period will be the covenant of the Antichrist to protect the Jews.

the covenant for one seven is made either by the Messiah or God, Covenant is only used in Daniel of the covenant of God,

We find a decree at the beginning and at the end of the 490 years.) History tells us there were four different decrees relating to Jerusalem: Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes all made decrees concerning the rebuilding of the temple (Ezra 1; 6, and 7); and Artaxerxes decreed that Nehemiah could return to rebuild the walls (Neh 2). This was in 445 B.C., and it is the decree Dan 9:25 is talking about; it took place nearly 100 years after Daniel received the message from God.

why should you pick that one? who says it is the one in 445 bc. YOU

Gabriel said that there would be a total of sixty-nine weeks, seven and sixty-two, between the giving of the decree and the arrival of Messiah, the Prince, in Jerusalem (69 x 7 = 483 years). Keep in mind that "prophetic years" in the Bible are not 365 days, but 360 days long. It has been calculated by scholars that there were 483 prophetic years between the decree in 445 B.C. and the day that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday (cf. The Coming Prince by Sir Robert Anderson, Kregel, 1967).

totally unjustified. who calls Robert Anderson a SCHOLAR? Its all invention, Years are not mentioned in Daniel 9.

But Gabriel divided these 483 years into two parts-seven weeks (7 x 7 = 49 years), and sixty-two weeks (62 x 7 = 434 years). Why? Well, it took forty-nine years to rebuild Jerusalem, and this was done (as Gabriel said) "in troublesome times." Read Nehemiah and see how difficult a task it was to restore the city.

LOL it was built in a short time.

Then, 434 years later we come to Messiah, the Prince, who is "cut off' (His death on the cross) for the sins of the world. It was His death on the cross that accomplished the purposes given in v. 24. What followed His death? Did Israel accept Him and His message? No. They lied about Him, persecuted His messengers, stoned Stephen, and refused to acknowledge His kingship. What happened? Rome came and destroyed the city and wrecked the temple. The nation "cut off" Jesus Christ, so He cut them off from being a nation.

so ended the prophecy.

Until May 14, 1948, Israel was not a free nation.

'Israel' contains people from many nations, and the majority of the Jews are not in Israel

Rome is called "the people of the prince that shall come." Who is this prince?

Titus?

Not "Messiah the Prince," because that refers to Christ.

the most natural interpretation is that it is Christ. His death is the reason His people are mentioned. Why else should he use a unique description?,,

"The prince that shall come" is Antichrist. He will be the leader of the restored Roman Empire.

pure fantasy. nowhere suggested in the passage

So, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 was but an illustration of a future invasion and destruction to be led by Antichrist. This prince will make an agreement with the Jews to protect them from the other nations, and this agreement will be set for seven years. This final seven years is the completion of Daniel's 490-year period. Between the death of Christ and the signing of this covenant you have the entire Age of the Church, a "great parenthesis" in God's program. The 490 years are in operation only when Israel is in God's will as God's people. When Israel crucified Christ, she was set aside and the "prophetic clock" stopped ticking. But when the Antichrist signs his pact with Israel, then the last seven years of Daniel's "seventy weeks" will start being fulfilled. This seven-year period is known as the Tribulation, or the time of Jacob's trouble. It is described in Rev 6-19.

there is no hint in the passage of a break. and if one was to come it should come after 70 ad. and the destruction should be
within the sevens, it is all cock and bull.

 

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Brother dalconn,

Please read post #9 in Who's afraid of the Big Bad Lk., I don't want to write it out again.

Brother John

 

[jb]

...Daniels 70 weeks...

You can find a few thoughts Here on it...

 

[dalconn]

maybe we could abbreviate the challenges to this posted view by stating which view you hold, otherwise this turns into drudgery:

1) Preterist
2) Premillennialist
3) Amillennialist
4) Postmillennialist

 

[Ahwatukee]

Looking for others input on Daniels prophecy shown below


Seventy Weeks of Prophecy (Daniel 9:20-27)


Chapter 9 verse 25 tells us that the event that will trigger the 490 years is a decree (see Neh 2:5) permitting the Jews to go back to Jerusalem and rebuild the city. (It is interesting that the event that will trigger the last seven years of this period will be the covenant of the Antichrist to protect the Jews. We find a decree at the beginning and at the end of the 490 years.) History tells us there were four different decrees relating to Jerusalem: Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes all made decrees concerning the rebuilding of the temple (Ezra 1; 6, and 7); and Artaxerxes decreed that Nehemiah could return to rebuild the walls (Neh 2). This was in 445 B.C., and it is the decree Dan 9:25 is talking about; it took place nearly 100 years after Daniel received the message from God. Gabriel said that there would be a total of sixty-nine weeks, seven and sixty-two, between the giving of the decree and the arrival of Messiah, the Prince, in Jerusalem (69 x 7 = 483 years). Keep in mind that "prophetic years" in the Bible are not 365 days, but 360 days long. It has been calculated by scholars that there were 483 prophetic years between the decree in 445 B.C. and the day that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday (cf. The Coming Prince by Sir Robert Anderson, Kregel, 1967).


But Gabriel divided these 483 years into two parts-seven weeks (7 x 7 = 49 years), and sixty-two weeks (62 x 7 = 434 years). Why? Well, it took forty-nine years to rebuild Jerusalem, and this was done (as Gabriel said) "in troublesome times." Read Nehemiah and see how difficult a task it was to restore the city. Then, 434 years later we come to Messiah, the Prince, who is "cut off' (His death on the cross) for the sins of the world. It was His death on the cross that accomplished the purposes given in v. 24. What followed His death? Did Israel accept Him and His message? No. They lied about Him, persecuted His messengers, stoned Stephen, and refused to acknowledge His kingship. What happened? Rome came and destroyed the city and wrecked the temple. The nation "cut off" Jesus Christ, so He cut them off from being a nation. Until May 14, 1948, Israel was not a free nation.


Rome is called "the people of the prince that shall come." Who is this prince? Not "Messiah the Prince," because that refers to Christ. "The prince that shall come" is Antichrist. He will be the leader of the restored Roman Empire. So, the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 was but an illustration of a future invasion and destruction to be led by Antichrist. This prince will make an agreement with the Jews to protect them from the other nations, and this agreement will be set for seven years. This final seven years is the completion of Daniel's 490-year period. Between the death of Christ and the signing of this covenant you have the entire Age of the Church, a "great parenthesis" in God's program. The 490 years are in operation only when Israel is in God's will as God's people. When Israel crucified Christ, she was set aside and the "prophetic clock" stopped ticking. But when the Antichrist signs his pact with Israel, then the last seven years of Daniel's "seventy weeks" will start being fulfilled. This seven-year period is known as the Tribulation, or the time of Jacob's trouble. It is described in Rev 6-19.


After three and a half years, Gog and her allies will invade Palestine (see Ezek 38-39), and God will judge them. Antichrist will invade the land, break his covenant, and set himself up as world dictator. He will stop all worship at the Jewish temple (see 2 Thess 2) and force the world to worship him and his image. This is the abomination of desolation (see Matt 24:15; John 5:43; Rev 13:1). How will this period end? Jesus Christ will return to earth, meet the rebel armies at Armageddon, and defeat them (Rev 19:11-21).

Hello Dalconn,

It is edifying to see when someone has the same Spirit and the same word of prophecy. To add to that, from the time that the Anointed One was cut off (Christ crucified) God left off with that last seven and began to build his church. Once the church has been completed the Lord will appear and remove the dead and living in Christ taking them back to the Father's house according to his promise. At that time God will pick up where He left off fulfilling that last seven years with that ruler, the antichrist, establishing his seven year covenant, with the Lord returning shortly after the end of that seven years, some time after the 7th bowl has been poured out.

and force the world to worship him and his image.

Regarding the above, I would say that, that is more directed to the great tribulation saints, for below will be the attitude of the inhabitants of the world towards this coming ruler:

"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against him?”

So, the inhabitants of the earth will be in awe of this coming ruler and will freely worship him. He is that eighth king, the beast who once was and now is not and who will come up out of the Abyss. The meaning behind the fatal wound that he receives is that it is not something that is survivable, but he does. And because of this, the inhabitants of the earth will be astonished and will be in awe of him. In addition, the false prophet, whom I believe will be one of the future pope's, will perform those miracles, signs and wonders which will authenticate his claim of being God. It is the great tribulation saints, those introduced in Rev.7, who will keep the testimony of Jesus and the word of God and who will not worship the beast, his image nor receive his mark. We see the result of their faith in Rev.20:4-6 when John writes that "I saw the souls of those who were beheaded."

Regarding the abomination, I have always believed that the "Image" that the false prophet has the inhabitants of the earth set up as described in Rev.13:14-15 is the abomination spoken of in Dan.9:27 and Mt.24:15.

 

[JesusIsAll]

That's a very good summary, though just one small thing. Many would differ that Gog has anything to do with the mid-tribulation or Armageddon, this not what Ezekiel teaches. There is no scripture foundation for that statement about Gog. I'd have left out the comment on Gog for this being raw speculation, regardless whether anybody agrees with what some of us conclude from scripture, if for no other reason than the timing of Gog has such a range of disagreement that it should not be in a conversation on Daniel, when there is also no mention of Gog and Magog in Daniel, nor any that can be inferred.

There's too much terrible eschatology in the pop culture from people selling sensational books, this the source of speculative error people are merely parroting, without thorough investigation of contradictory truths, details, in scripture. If the gift horse is from the likes of Bill Salus or Johnathan Cahn, you'd be best advised to check the teeth.

 

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Brother Jesus Is All,

I think you are speaking to me, you didn't say.
I think you misunderstood.

The reference to Ezek was in response to the question from Zmouth in regards to God bringing armies to destroy Jerusalem.
The Ezek passage was brought up to show that God leads armies.
You are right that the Ezek passage has nothing to do with Lk 21 except for the illustration given about the armies being led by God.
Yes?

Brother John

 

[JesusIsAll]

Brother Jesus Is All,

I think you are speaking to me, you didn't say.
I think you misunderstood.

The reference to Ezek was in response to the question from Zmouth in regards to God bringing armies to destroy Jerusalem.
The Ezek passage was brought up to show that God leads armies.
You are right that the Ezek passage has nothing to do with Lk 21 except for the illustration given about the armies being led by God.
Yes?

Brother John

I'm sorry, no, don't know what you're referring to. I was narrowly addressing the statement about Gog in the OP, that's all, had nothing in mind regarding eschatology in Luke or any concept of God leading armies, especially of the world? (Don't have horse in whatever that race is.)

 

[abcdef]

Brothers, Sticking with the subject of this thread,

How can you switch from the weeks being 70 yrs, to meaning a literal seven years?
This is not in the context of the passage.

It begins talking about the 70 weeks in v 24, and continues in that representation through out the rest of the passage.
You want to suddenly change the meaning to a literal 7 yrs. in v27.

The whole chapter is talking about the coming of the Messiah and the destruction of Jerusalem by 70 ad.

You are trying so hard to say that this is the future.

You know that your dates are not "exact", they are someone's estimate.
I'll just call them "artificial facts".

Yes?

Brother John

 

[Ahwatukee]

Hi John,

How can you switch from the weeks being 70 yrs, to meaning a literal seven years? This is not in the context of the passage

I already explained this to you John, that this was fulfilled through Nehemiah when he received letters to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. If you were to try to find fulfillment using "weeks" there is none. Weeks of years is what is being spoken of in the decree for Israel and her holy city Jerusalem. Sixty-nine of those seven year periods (483 years) has been fulfilled via the seven year periods (49 years) and the sixty-two seven year periods (434 years) culminating when the Anointed One was cut off, which was Christ crucified. God put a hold on that last seven years in dealing with the nation Israel and began to build his church. Once the church is completed, then the Lord will appear and remove us from the earth. After that, God will take up where he left off, initiating that last seven years in fulfillment of the seventy seven year periods as decreed, with Christ returning to the earth to end the age immediately after.

The whole chapter is talking about the coming of the Messiah and the destruction of Jerusalem by 70 ad.

The ruler of the people, i.e. that antichrist is the one who is in view in Dan.9:27. The "He" in the verse cannot be hrist Because the one in verse performs the following:

1). "He" makes a firm covenant with Israel

2). "He" puts a stop to the sacrifices and offerings

3). In the middle of the seven "He" sets up an abomination that causes the desolation

Since there is only one person mentioned in the verse, the "He" will then perform all three listed above. You might be able to get away with claiming Christ as performing the first two, but when it comes to number three it ends that whole idea of the "He" being Christ. The word "Bdelugma" translated "abomination" is defined as a detestable stench going up before God. Therefore, Christ cannot be the "He" in the verse because it would mean that he would be the one setting up the abomination in the holy place within the temple and by doing so blaspheming God the Father and himself. For this very reason Christ cannot be the one spoken of in Dan.9:27.

Regarding the seventy 'sevens' please enlighten us with historical proof using seventy weeks instead of years to demonstrate the restoring and rebuilding of Jerusalem and the Anointed One being cut off. You will find no fulfillment, but seventy weeks of years fits perfectly from the time that Nehemiah received the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to Christ crucified fulfills the prophecy.

7 years x 7 years = 49 years (restore and rebuild Jerusalem)

7 years x 62 = 434 years

49 years + 434 years = 483 years

Nehemiah received the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem around 446 BC

446 - 483 = 37 AD (Christ crucified)

Taking into consideration weeks as years, this puts us right in the ball park.

 

[valiant]

Hi John,



I already explained this to you John, that this was fulfilled through Nehemiah when he received letters to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. If you were to try to find fulfillment using "weeks" there is none. Weeks of years is what is being spoken of in the decree for Israel and her holy city Jerusalem. Sixty-nine of those seven year periods (483 years) has been fulfilled via the seven year periods (49 years) and the sixty-two seven year periods (434 years) culminating when the Anointed One was cut off, which was Christ crucified. God put a hold on that last seven years in dealing with the nation Israel and began to build his church. Once the church is completed, then the Lord will appear and remove us from the earth. After that, God will take up where he left off, initiating that last seven years in fulfillment of the seventy seven year periods as decreed, with Christ returning to the earth to end the age immediately after.



The ruler of the people, i.e. that antichrist is the one who is in view in Dan.9:27. The "He" in the verse cannot be hrist Because the one in verse performs the following:

1). "He" makes a firm covenant with Israel

2). "He" puts a stop to the sacrifices and offerings

3). In the middle of the seven "He" sets up an abomination that causes the desolation

Since there is only one person mentioned in the verse, the "He" will then perform all three listed above. You might be able to get away with claiming Christ as performing the first two, but when it comes to number three it ends that whole idea of the "He" being Christ. The word "Bdelugma" translated "abomination" is defined as a detestable stench going up before God. Therefore, Christ cannot be the "He" in the verse because it would mean that he would be the one setting up the abomination in the holy place within the temple and by doing so blaspheming God the Father and himself. For this very reason Christ cannot be the one spoken of in Dan.9:27.

Regarding the seventy 'sevens' please enlighten us with historical proof using seventy weeks instead of years to demonstrate the restoring and rebuilding of Jerusalem and the Anointed One being cut off. You will find no fulfillment, but seventy weeks of years fits perfectly from the time that Nehemiah received the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to Christ crucified fulfills the prophecy.

7 years x 7 years = 49 years (restore and rebuild Jerusalem)

7 years x 62 = 434 years

49 years + 434 years = 483 years

Nehemiah received the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem around 446 BC

446 - 483 = 37 AD (Christ crucified)

Taking into consideration weeks as years, this puts us right in the ball park.

where does it say in scripture that God put a hold on seven years?

 

[valiant]

The ruler of the people, i.e. that antichrist is the one who is in view in Dan.9:27. The "He" in the verse cannot be hrist Because the one in verse performs the following:

1). "He" makes a firm covenant with Israel

2). "He" puts a stop to the sacrifices and offerings

3). In the middle of the seven "He" sets up an abomination that causes the desolation

anyone of any intelligence knows that no.3 is totally INACCURATE,

 

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Brother Ahwatukee,

Jesus was born o ad (est.), that is when Messiah arrived. When He was born. 70 yrs to the destruction of Jerusalem.

I agree with you about the Antichrist being the the one linked to those events in v 27, they are all linked to the Messiah being cut off.

Everything after where it says in v 26, about the Messiah being cut off , but not for Himself, is about the Antichrist, from there on.
How did you come to the conclusion that I was linking any of that to the Messiah? I didn't say it.

If Jerusalem fell in 70 ad, the the date your looking for should be about 420 bc.
That is within 10-20 yrs of your estimate.

You remember that I did explain about the covenant, and have again in the thread, Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Lk 21.
Post #9 I think.

Again, How can you leave the context of the passage and change the meaning of the week to a literal 7 yrs?
So you can say that this never happened?

Everything mentioned here happened by 70 ad.

Brother John

 

[MsSuzanna]

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[Ahwatukee]

Brother Ahwatukee,

Jesus was born o ad (est.), that is when Messiah arrived. When He was born. 70 yrs to the destruction of Jerusalem.

I agree with you about the Antichrist being the the one linked to those events in v 27, they are all linked to the Messiah being cut off.

Everything after where it says in v 26, about the Messiah being cut off , but not for Himself, is about the Antichrist, from there on.
How did you come to the conclusion that I was linking any of that to the Messiah? I didn't say it.

If Jerusalem fell in 70 ad, the the date your looking for should be about 420 bc.
That is within 10-20 yrs of your estimate.

You remember that I did explain about the covenant, and have again in the thread, Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Lk 21.
Post #9 I think.

Again, How can you leave the context of the passage and change the meaning of the week to a literal 7 yrs?
So you can say that this never happened?

Everything mentioned here happened by 70 ad.

Brother John

John, the Anointed One being cut off is not referring to when Jesus was born, but when he was crucified. This happens at the end of the 69 seven year periods, with that last seven years yet to be fulfilled.

If Jerusalem fell in 70 ad, the the date your looking for should be about 420 bc. That is within 10-20 yrs of your estimate.

John, the destruction of Jerusalem is not apart of the decree. The events are the restoring and rebuilding of Jerusalem which was the result of the Babylonian captivity and the cities destruction and has nothing to do with the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Nehemiah and those with him were those who restored Jerusalem. 62 seven years periods after that, which would be 434 years, Christ was crucified, which fulfilled 69 of the seventy seven year periods. We have one seven year period left to be fulfilled, which is coming soon. It is during this time that the antichrist will make is seven year covenant and when the wrath of God via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments will begin to be poured out upon the earth. In the middle of the seven is when that antichrist will set up the abomination, which is when Israel will flee out into the wilderness to that place prepared for her by God (Mt.24:15-22, Rev.12:6,14). Again, the destruction of the temple in 70AD has nothing to do with the decree of seventy seven year periods:

7 years X 7 years (49 years) = Jerusalem restored and rebuilt

62 years x 7 years = (434 years = Anointed One cut off, which brings us to the end of 69 seven year periods. The remaining seven years is still future and will be fulfilled when that antichrist is revealed. In order to find out how everything fits together, you have to start from the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem and from there you count 62 seven year periods which is 434 years and it brings you to the neighborhood of 35 AD, which is when Christ was crucified. The last seven years has not taken place yet, for since Christ was crucified, we have not seen the emergence of the antichrist and his seven year covenant nor the abomination.

My advice to you is to stop listening to the teachings of preterism, because your attempt to try and find fulfillment at the destruction of the temple in 70 AD is a signature of their teaching. They believe that all end-time events have already taken place, which is a complete lie! The only way that they can make their interpretation fit is if they spiritualize the end-time events. Stop reading the lies because it is already poisoning you.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

John, the Anointed One being cut off is not referring to when Jesus was born, but when he was crucified. This happens at the end of the 69 seven year periods, with that last seven years yet to be fulfilled.

Messiah being cut off happened in the midst of the 70th week. The text says that the messiah would be cut off, not at the end of 69 weeks, but after THE 69 week period, i.e., in the 70th week. There is a definite article (the) in that verse.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Messiah being cut off happened in the midst of the 70th week. The text says that the messiah would be cut off, not at the end of 69 weeks, but after THE 69 week period, i.e., in the 70th week. There is a definite article (the) in that verse.

Hello HeRose,

No it didn't! Read it again. The Anointed One was cut off after seven sevens and sixty-two sevens, which means he was cut off at the end of sixty-nine seven's. The last seven years are separate and begin after he was cut off.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Messiah being cut off happened in the midst of the 70th week. The text says that the messiah would be cut off, not at the end of 69 weeks, but after THE 69 week period, i.e., in the 70th week. There is a definite article (the) in that verse.

"Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One,[SUP] [/SUP]the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ "

Seven 'sevens' = the restoring and rebuilding of Jerusalem


At the end of Sixty-two 'sevens' = The Anointed one cut off

After seven 'sevens and 62 'sevens' the Anointed One is cut off, which equals sixty-nine 'sevens'. After the 69th 'seven' comes the last seven year period. The scripture shows that the Anointed One is cut at the end of the sixty-nine 'sevens' and not in the middle of the last seven years.

"He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Hello HeRose,

No it didn't! Read it again. The Anointed One was cut off after seven sevens and sixty-two sevens, which means he was cut off at the end of sixty-nine seven's. The last seven years are separate and begin after he was cut off.

No that's not what the Hebrew text says. It says he would be cut off after THE 62 week period (השבעים), which followed the 7-week period. It definitely doesn't say that he would be cut off at the end of 69 weeks (שבעים).