One Foot in Hell?

[JesusIsAll]

Romans 8:12-17​

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Since the child of God is regenerated and the Spirit of God dwells in his heart to impart strength and power, enabling him to live above the fleshly desires and above the world: he is no longer debtor to the flesh, to live after the flesh, for to do so is death. The death referred to here is separation from God, not only in time, but throughout all eternity.

In verses 9-10, But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness, the apostle distinguishes between those in their number who might be unregenerated and those genuinely born again. As John wrote of the unregenerated people in the church, when a crisis came, They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they are not of us (1 John 2:19).

Doubtless there were those in the church at Rome who were considered to be Christians but who had never been born again. Of course they were living after the flesh. Their ultimate doom will be banishment from the presence of God and the glory of His might.

Those led by the Spirit are sons of God. Others who do not put themselves under His influence may be church members, but they are not sons of God. The born again believer has received the spirit of adoption, crying out to God, "Abba," or "Father." Paul, writing to the Roman church in Greek, here used both the Aramaic (Abba) and the Greek words for father.

In essence, your works salvation and legalist deny the power of, don't really have trust in, the Holy Spirit given the one who is in Christ, enabling him to live above the sordid things of life. In turn, they deny salvation is a gift of grace, rather salvation is grace plus their efforts, which will only cause a person to look inward to try and save themselves, try to establish a delusional self righteousness, instead of looking to Christ. It is a position of doubt, not faith, which only shows a person's weakness of faith, if they are even being honest they believe this false gospel.

We should neither fail to mention another modern, prevalent false gospel, that of easy believism, where the faith is a Chinese menu some will have a big helping of grace from, but skip on repentance. Lately, there is a heretical teaching appearing where the claim is repentance has nothing to do with being convicted of sin and turning from wickedness, rather is merely an intellectual assent to the basic facts of who Christ is. How very foolish any should believe God saves those who don't even agree with Him on the major issue of their sin and need for salvation! As James well put it, Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble (James 2:19).

So, do you think God is impotent and needs your help to save, that He is impressed by your filthy rags works and religion, or do you think you have a get out of hell free card, that allows you to live on cheapened grace and cheapened blood of the Lord Jesus, with one unrepentant foot in hell? Time to think again, while you can!

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.​

John 4:24
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Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Galatians 6:7


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[Grace777x70]

Well said!

2 Timothy 2:24-26 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,

[SUP]25 [/SUP] with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,

[SUP]26 [/SUP] and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Repentance, one of the most important words in the Bible. Repentance: don't leave home without it.

Metanoia (met-an'-oy-ah);
Word Origin: Greek, Noun Feminine

a change of mind, as it appears to one who repents, of a purpose he has formed or of something he has done; change in one's way of life resulting from penitence or spiritual conversion; especially the change of mind of those who have begun to abhor their errors and misdeeds, and have determined to enter upon a better course of life, so that it embraces both a recognition of sin and sorrow for it and hearty amendment, the tokens and effects of which are good deeds (Lactantius, 6, 24, 6 would have it rendered in Latin byresipiscentia); that change of mind by which we turn from, desist from, the old behavior; a reversal of decision

Thayer then defines the noun metanoia as 1. A change of mind, as it appears in one who repents of a purpose he has formed or of something he has done. He also continues with: "The change of mind of those who have begun to abhor their errors and misdeeds, and have determined to enter upon a better course of life... the tokens and effects of which are good deeds." Thayer further states that metanoia is "that change of mind by which we turn from, desist from dead works."

A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament by William F. Arndt and F. Wilbur Gingrich 1957 on page 513 defines the first word metanoeo and the noun metanoia as: 1. Change of mind, then feel remorse, repent, be converted. Likewise the noun means: "change of mind, remorse, repentance, turning about, conversion, as a turning away from dead works." And when Arndt and Gingrich deal with the second word under consideration - metamelomai - they tell us on page 512 that it means: "to feel regret, to repent, it can also mean to change one's mind."

Repentance is a change of mind with respect to man's relationship to God. It is neither sorrow nor penance, though penitent sorrow may lead to a change of mind. Repentance is always an element of saving faith, and repentance involves remorseful acknowledgement of and agreement with God as to our sinful state and need of salvation, a realization of our vile, unclean condition before a God of absolute holiness. Repentance is a change of mind that turns from rejection of Jesus Christ to faith in Jesus Christ.

The literal meaning of repentance is "after-thought" or "reconsideration." By "change of mind" we do not mean a "change of opinion"; a "change of mind" is the substitution of a new mind for the old. It is new in character. True repentance is a change of mind which will lead to a change of action, but let us be warned that it is possible to have a change of action without a change of mind. A good example of repentance is found in Mathew 21:28-29, from the very lips of our blessed Lord Jesus:

"But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work today in my vineyard. He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went."

Repentance manifests in: Change in the Intellect. Change of Feeling. Change of Will. Change of Action.

 

[Gr8grace]

Romans 8:12-17​

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Since the child of God is regenerated and the Spirit of God dwells in his heart to impart strength and power, enabling him to live above the fleshly desires and above the world: he is no longer debtor to the flesh, to live after the flesh, for to do so is death. The death referred to here is separation from God, not only in time, but throughout all eternity.

In verses 9-10, But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the spirit is life because of righteousness, the apostle distinguishes between those in their number who might be unregenerated and those genuinely born again. As John wrote of the unregenerated people in the church, when a crisis came, They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they are not of us (1 John 2:19).

Doubtless there were those in the church at Rome who were considered to be Christians but who had never been born again. Of course they were living after the flesh. Their ultimate doom will be banishment from the presence of God and the glory of His might.

Those led by the Spirit are sons of God. Others who do not put themselves under His influence may be church members, but they are not sons of God. The born again believer has received the spirit of adoption, crying out to God, "Abba," or "Father." Paul, writing to the Roman church in Greek, here used both the Aramaic (Abba) and the Greek words for father.

In essence, your works salvation and legalist deny the power of, don't really have trust in, the Holy Spirit given the one who is in Christ, enabling him to live above the sordid things of life. In turn, they deny salvation is a gift of grace, rather salvation is grace plus their efforts, which will only cause a person to look inward to try and save themselves, try to establish a delusional self righteousness, instead of looking to Christ. It is a position of doubt, not faith, which only shows a person's weakness of faith, if they are even being honest they believe this false gospel.

We should neither fail to mention another modern, prevalent false gospel, that of easy believism, where the faith is a Chinese menu some will have a big helping of grace from, but skip on repentance. Lately, there is a heretical teaching appearing where the claim is repentance has nothing to do with being convicted of sin and turning from wickedness, rather is merely an intellectual assent to the basic facts of who Christ is. How very foolish any should believe God saves those who don't even agree with Him on the major issue of their sin and need for salvation! As James well put it, Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble (James 2:19).

So, do you think God is impotent and needs your help to save, that He is impressed by your filthy rags works and religion, or do you think you have a get out of hell free card, that allows you to live on cheapened grace and cheapened blood of the Lord Jesus, with one unrepentant foot in hell? Time to think again, while you can!

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.​

John 4:24
​

​

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Galatians 6:7


​

This is lordship salvation(false.) I sure hope others can see it. John Mac and Johnny Piper would put their stamp of approval on this.

I won't and sure hope others can see this subtle deception. It is such a good counterfeit, that it is deceiving many today.

What must I do to be saved?

New American Standard Bible
They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
“Whosoever believes in me will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Jn 3:15
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Jn 3:16
“He that believes on him is not condemned, but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has notbelieved in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” Jn 3:18
“He that believes the Son has everlasting life, and he that believes not the Son, shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” Jn 3:36
“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one that which sees the Son, and believes on him, will have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”Jn 6:40
“Truly I say unto you, he that believes on me, has everlasting life.” Jn 6:47
.

 

[JesusIsAll]

This is lordship salvation(false.) I sure hope others can see it. John Mac and Johnny Piper would put their stamp of approval on this.

I won't and sure hope others can see this subtle deception. It is such a good counterfeit, that it is deceiving many today.

What must I do to be saved?

New American Standard Bible
They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
“Whosoever believes in me will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Jn 3:15
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Jn 3:16
“He that believes on him is not condemned, but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has notbelieved in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” Jn 3:18
“He that believes the Son has everlasting life, and he that believes not the Son, shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” Jn 3:36
“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one that which sees the Son, and believes on him, will have everlasting life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”Jn 6:40
“Truly I say unto you, he that believes on me, has everlasting life.” Jn 6:47
.

I know Him as the Lord Jesus. He is thus in scripture. But don't get me wrong, seeing other things you've posted, I am encouraged by your attack. At some point, you may try learning the whole Bible, instead of just a pamphlet.

 

[JennaLeanne]

Awesome thread u guys.... I pray that you continue to spread the meaty chunks of truth like u are here and that our brothers and sisters on here would be receptive.. Love ya all xxx

 

[AuntieAnt]

On one hand you are telling "legalists" that their works don't save them. And on the other hand you are telling those "easy believing" folks that they must do something more than believe Jesus has overcome the world in our flesh.

In John 16:33 Jesus said, "These things I have I spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world." There is only one source of power in life and that is God. We're not of this world because we are now spiritual sons of God, and His kingdom is within us. He reigns in us!

When we have Christ, we are given a new awareness of being. Our soul, our old self, our own understanding is done away with. "It's no more I, but Christ in me." We are spiritual beings. Our rational mind/soul cannot grasp that.

We have to remember that God is not dealing with people's sins. That's not the problem, for He has already dealt with sin on the Cross. Man's carnal nature, His carnal mind that causes him to sin, is the problem. But God has dealt with that problem too, for in Christ He has created a new spiritual man!

"Where sin abounds, grace much more!" When we come to the truth that there is nothing in our own nature/natural mind that can obey God, we will see the grace that saves - Jesus Christ in us.

As long as we live in the nature of dwelling on self, or acknowledging others by their outward man (the flesh), we are walking in our own understanding. It's wrong to expect those who are spiritually blind to live according to a spiritual nature they don't have. And it's just as wrong to expect a Christian to understand God in his conscious soul when his soul has been crucified and he is now a spiritual man because of Christ.

It is the work of God, not of ourselves. The only testimony we have as Christians is Christ in Who makes us to walk by faith and not by sight. The testimony is Jesus Christ alive in us, not our old consciousness resurrected.

"You will keep me in perfect peace when my mind is stayed on You." How can we possibly be in error when our focus is Christ Jesus alone, and not on ourselves? To have the mind of Christ is to abandon our own understanding and believe He has everything under control and is Himself the answer to everyone's need. Even the wind and the sea obey Him, and He is making us to obey Him, too.

It's not up to us to change the nature of other people, or even to change ourselves into worthy specimens of Christianity. Our part is to believe Christ in us is right now testifying of Himself to the world and drawing them to Him. He is the Light of the world and the world can see that Light when our eyes are only on Him.

 

[AuntieAnt]

2 Corinthians 5:19-21
19. To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Christ was not intimate with, did not perceive, did not focus on sin. And when we believe in our hearts that God has reconciled us to himself, we don’t know sin either. We are only intimate with, perceive, focus on Jesus. That’s how the world is overcome in us. That’s the good news!

 

[JesusIsAll]

Awesome thread u guys.... I pray that you continue to spread the meaty chunks of truth like u are here and that our brothers and sisters on here would be receptive.. Love ya all xxx

That can be quite a risk around here, but a bleached carcass you can't even make a broth from and skim milk, if nothing else, make for such a boring diet.

By the way, your blog post? It's great! We can only praise and be very thankful we are blessed with a Lord that is holy, a God that is not capricious, that He is worthy, in all respects. I've thought on this much, in recent times, the all important blessing that our God, the one true God, is absolutely holy. Where would we be, if He were not exactly who He is?

From your blog, if I may repeat it here,

THANKYOU JESUS THANKYOU JESUS THANKYOU JESUS..

My heart blesses your name, with everything I have and with everything I am I bow down to you...

To anyone reading this, take a minute and praise the only one who is worthy...

Amen.

 

[JennaLeanne]

Yes Amen.. Keep speaking the truth that you carry. Your a blessing xx

 

[BeyondET]

If a hand causes a person to stumble cut it off, if a foot causes a person to stumble cut it off as well

 

[JesusIsAll]

Yes Amen.. Keep speaking the truth that you carry. Your a blessing xx

Thank you! I like how you put it, "truth that you carry." I have few ideas of my own, and try to keep them to myself, at least will always express things just opinion or speculation as such. In most everything, I'm merely parroting what is in scripture that is clear, and also the teaching of a long line of gifted Bible teachers, most gone to be with the Lord, now, have all these notes from those who likely forgot more than I know. I must say the world seems so much emptier a place, and the Christian world all the more apostate, for some who've faded into the past, but I'm also happy they're with our Savior now and don't have to see some things. But, anyway, thank you again for your graciousness. You even run the risk of ruining your reputation in the BDF, have mercy!

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

Well said!

2 Timothy 2:24-26 (NASB)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,

[SUP]25 [/SUP] with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth,

[SUP]26 [/SUP] and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.

Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness

I love how they speak in accord