Anyone know what this means ?

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Miri

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Ecclesiastes 11:1 NKJV
[1] Cast your bread upon the waters, For you will find it after many days.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Ecclesiastes 11:1 NKJV
[1] Cast your bread upon the waters, For you will find it after many days.

I don't know, but around here, between the bluegills and the ducks, you wouldn't find any bread even after just a few minutes.
 
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psychomom

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it's not about beneficence? since the teacher has been going on a bit about enjoying the fruits of one's labors oneself?
 
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JesusIsAll

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When E.F. Hutton talks...

In the New Living Translation, it's much clearer, and sounds like good investment advice, and/or being industrious, which passage context also supports.

Ecclesiastes 11:1-2 Send your grain across the seas, and in time, profits will flow back to you. But divide your investments among many places, for you do not know what risks might lie ahead.


Sometimes going places like Biblehub.com can give you some good insights from comparative translations, where, at least, you have some professional translation effort of the word of God, as opposed to commentators reaching for opinions on these more obscure verses.
 
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psychomom

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I don't know, but around here, between the bluegills and the ducks, you wouldn't find any bread even after just a few minutes.
and the goats and tares, don't forget about them! ;)
 

blue_ladybug

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Ecclesiastes 11:1 NKJV
[1] Cast your bread upon the waters, For you will find it after many days.

In other words, do good things to others, and the good you do will come back to you tenfold after awhile.. :)
 
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When E.F. Hutton talks...

In the New Living Translation, it's much clearer, and sounds like good investment advice, and/or being industrious, which passage context also supports.

Ecclesiastes 11:1-2 Send your grain across the seas, and in time, profits will flow back to you. But divide your investments among many places, for you do not know what risks might lie ahead.


Sometimes going places like Biblehub.com can give you some good insights from comparative translations, where, at least, you have some professional translation effort of the word of God, as opposed to commentators reaching for opinions on these more obscure verses.
I agree. There is wisdom in the MULTITUDE of council. God agrees too!:p
 
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JesusIsAll

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In other words, do good things to others, and the good you do will come back to you tenfold after awhile.. :)
Yes, it would be a foregone conclusion that, say, having supplied food to surrounding nations, if you were to come on a time of famine, the goodwill would be considered a good investment. Any businessman knows the value of goodwill, good trading partners and clients. The passage goes on to describe the futility of doing nothing, which there can be no reward in.
 
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Miri

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I've heard it used in various contexts over the years and I just came
across it today again.

Some people seem to suggest it means something along the lines give and it will
be given back, a full measure pressed down etc.

Ive heard others use it in the context that you can't out give a God.

Still others have referred to it in the context or prayer.

Maybe it is to do with commerce or maybe it has a deeper spiritual meaning.

I still don't have a clue. :)

Maybe someone can throw light on the original meaning in Hebrew?
 
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psychomom

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When E.F. Hutton talks...

In the New Living Translation, it's much clearer, and sounds like good investment advice, and/or being industrious, which passage context also supports.

Ecclesiastes 11:1-2 Send your grain across the seas, and in time, profits will flow back to you. But divide your investments among many places, for you do not know what risks might lie ahead.


Sometimes going places like Biblehub.com can give you some good insights from comparative translations, where, at least, you have some professional translation effort of the word of God, as opposed to commentators reaching for opinions on these more obscure verses.

but is it literal or spiritual? :mad: :p

(JIA? i kinda appreciate somma the commentators :eek:)
 
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coby2

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When E.F. Hutton talks...

In the New Living Translation, it's much clearer, and sounds like good investment advice, and/or being industrious, which passage context also supports.

Ecclesiastes 11:1-2 Send your grain across the seas, and in time, profits will flow back to you. But divide your investments among many places, for you do not know what risks might lie ahead.


Sometimes going places like Biblehub.com can give you some good insights from comparative translations, where, at least, you have some professional translation effort of the word of God, as opposed to commentators reaching for opinions on these more obscure verses.
Oooh that makes much more sense. Sawing and reaping.
 
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JesusIsAll

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but is it literal or spiritual? :mad: :p

(JIA? i kinda appreciate somma the commentators :eek:)
I'm not one to ask that, being one to always take scripture at its ordinary meaning, don't believe in reading things into scripture that are not there. I also appreciate commentaries, but have commentaries that go on for paragraphs, finding all sorts of things in a couple verses that aren't there. Spiritualizations are often much like symbolizing things, where there has been no "thus saith the Lord." This has to do with what school one believes in, and I'm of that very literal school, to always first seek that the Bible means exactly what it is saying, unless there's clear contextual reasons otherwise. But to each his own, this only my take and what I was taught by betters.
 
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AuntieAnt

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I believe Ecclesiastes was written by Solomon in his old age. He was gifted with wisdom more than any other man and yet he came to the conclusion that he had lived with an overabundance of pleasure most of his young life. "All is vanity", he proclaimed.

He ultimately tells us that to love God and enjoy the fruit of your labor is the way to live.

That verse about casting your bread upon the water is saying we have no control over circumstances. Things may or may not turn out the way we plan. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket," so to speak. :rolleyes:
 
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psychomom

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I'm not one to ask that, being one to always take scripture at its ordinary meaning, don't believe in reading things into scripture that are not there. I also appreciate commentaries, but have commentaries that go on for paragraphs, finding all sorts of things in a couple verses that aren't there. Spiritualizations are often much like symbolizing things, where there has been no "thus saith the Lord." This has to do with what school one believes in, and I'm of that very literal school, to always first seek that the Bible means exactly what it is saying, unless there's clear contextual reasons otherwise. But to each his own, this only my take and what I was taught by betters.
i quite agree, take it literally unless there's a reason not to.
 
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psychomom

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I believe Ecclesiastes was written by Solomon in his old age. He was gifted with wisdom more than any other man and yet he came to the conclusion that he had lived with an overabundance of pleasure most of his young life. "All is vanity", he proclaimed.

He ultimately tells us that to love God and enjoy the fruit of your labor is the way to live.

That verse about casting your bread upon the water is saying we have no control over circumstances. Things may or may not turn out the way we plan. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket," so to speak. :rolleyes:

and chicken counting :p

eh, i stink at math. ;)
 
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Miri

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I wonder if it was a common saying at the time but had a deeper meaning.

So if for example someone today wrote a book that included don't put all your
eggs in one basket. Then fast forward a few centuries someone might read it
and just take it as literal advice, when originally it had a far deeper meaning etc.

I would imagine the casting your bread etc, has a deeper meaning but it's just that we
no longer understand it. :)