Put the church on a milk carton!

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....for it is MISSING!
There is a two word verse that reads 'Jesus wept'. John 11:35. Does anyone doubt that this verse is true? Do you believe that Jesus wept at this point? Maybe it's a lie?? GASP!! 'Yet...now we all know for sure you are batty, crazy, out of your head. Yep! We knew it all along. Now we have the proof along with the pudding! You are a fraud. A lunatic. A deceiver. A false prophet, teacher, and cultist!! We gotcha now! Telling us that a verse in the bible might be false, a mis-print. How dare you Yet?'

Ok. Moving on now. You think you're mad at me now, just wait.

There are about 50 verses in 1Cor.12, Ephesians 4, and Romans 12 that I continuously teach on to the dismay of most.

These scriptures are soundly rejected by organized religion, the 'church', falsely called.

Do you suspect an inconsistency here? I'm just a simple man with a simple mind.

Most everything the ecclesia is suppose to be, isn't. And what it isn't suppose to be, is.

The true biblical dynamic of the scriptural body of Christ is MISSING, and has been for nearly 1800 years.

My question is should we put the 'church' on a milk carton and hope someone can spot it somewhere?
 
Brainfreeze

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If it's missing .... It needs to be found. Doesn't mean it's dead... Something has to be done!

ps that's also the shortest verse in the Bible " Jesus wept ".

-BF
 
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The church is failing and that is why we are in such a conundrum at this point in the USof A. Most churches (not all) no longer preach Christ because they might offend some one and they don't want that because of the money.
 
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RobbyEarl said:
Blain

The church is failing and that is why we are in such a conundrum at this point in the USof A. Most churches (not all) no longer preach Christ because they might offend some one and they don't want that because of the money.
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What you just said is only your opinion.
Now we all agree that some, maybe many churches may be are failing, but to say MOST is something you can not prove.
I would suggest that you and Yet be very careful in judging a local church when you have never attended that church.
The church at Corinth had many many failings, but Paul still recognized it as one of the Lord's churches.
Whille I may choose to not fellowship with a local church,
I will leave it to my Lord to decide when it is no lnoger His.
 
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Persuaded said:
What you just said is only your opinion.
Now we all agree that some, maybe many churches may be are failing, but to say MOST is something you can not prove.
I would suggest that you and Yet be very careful in judging a local church when you have never attended that church.
The church at Corinth had many many failings, but Paul still recognized it as one of the Lord's churches.
Whille I may choose to not fellowship with a local church,
I will leave it to my Lord to decide when it is no lnoger His.
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If the church was not failing we would not be where we are in this time. 10 years ago would we be facing men in women's bathrooms and gay marriage? Judgement starts at the house of God doe's it not? Nor would we as nation have killed over 60 million babies.
 
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RobbyEarl said:
If the church was not failing we would not be where we are in this time. 10 years ago would we be facing men in women's bathrooms and gay marriage? Judgement starts at the house of God doe's it not? Nor would we as nation have killed over 60 million babies.
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How many local churches do you have knowledge of.
I have never seen you in the church is serve as pastor and I am sure that is true of every one on this forum and yet you want to pass judgment on us.
Just how is it Christian to speak evil of churches and pastors you have never attended or know.
That is wrong.
Now If you want to give us the name of the church you know is evil than do so.
 
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How many local churches do you have knowledge of.
I have never seen you in the church is serve as pastor and I am sure that is true of every one on this forum and yet you want to pass judgment on us.
Just how is it Christian to speak evil of churches and pastors you have never attended or know.
That is wrong.
Now If you want to give us the name of the church you know is evil than do so.
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If your in a church that supports abortion or homo, we should know better. If your in a church that supports zionist Israel, people need to WAKE UP, and learn better.. No one has to pick them out, people need to pick themselves out of them.
 
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Brainfreeze said:
If your in a church that supports abortion or homo, we should know better. If your in a church that supports zionist Israel, people need to WAKE UP, and learn better.. No one has to pick them out, people need to pick themselves out of them.
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But to go on this forum and say all or most are guilty when you just don't know is telling lies.
Yet condems churches he has never attended and pastors he has never met as evil and demands that every one should avoid ALL churches. And some agree with him.
As I said give me names and cities if you can, but no one has done so.
I am just sick and tired of people calling evil and condemning people and churches they know nothing about.
 
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i like the church i attend :eek:
 
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Persuaded said:
How many local churches do you have knowledge of.
I have never seen you in the church is serve as pastor and I am sure that is true of every one on this forum and yet you want to pass judgment on us.
Just how is it Christian to speak evil of churches and pastors you have never attended or know.
That is wrong.
Now If you want to give us the name of the church you know is evil than do so.
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The fruit brother the fruit. How can I possibly attend every local church in the US of A. I attend my church. But if you look at the overall picture and what people support now days as apposed to 10, 15 years ago and these people go to a so called church and say that the word of God is Hate. The church nationally is failing or is not speaking and saying oh well God will bring us out. If the church was succeeding then these issues would be mute and they would still be in the closet.

Your local church may very well still be preaching Christ and Him Crucified, but many arena sized churches preach psychology and very little mention of Christ. Many have bars for their children, saying they gone do it anyway let them do it here so they want get put in jail. Many are pushing a one world government and doing it through environment and sustainability. They say do not offend but accept and love. This is not what Jesus preached, Jesus said I have come to turn Father against son and son against father and do not think that I have come to bring peace but division. I can give the verses if need be. They no longer preach sin and do not have alter calls and no Sunday night service because football is on tv. The Holy Spirit forget about it they have no need for Him as well.
 
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Persuaded said:
But to go on this forum and say all or most are guilty when you just don't know is telling lies.
Yet condems churches he has never attended and pastors he has never met as evil and demands that every one should avoid ALL churches. And some agree with him.
As I said give me names and cities if you can, but no one has done so.
I am just sick and tired of people calling evil and condemning people and churches they know nothing about.
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I think people are just shocked at how massively it all is.. this just shouldn't be.
 
posthuman

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Yet said:
There is a two word verse that reads 'Jesus wept'. John 11:35. Does anyone doubt that this verse is true? Do you believe that Jesus wept at this point?
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this was when He came to wake Lazarus up from sleeping.
He was moved and greatly troubled when He found Mary weeping over Him, saying that if He was there, Lazarus would not have died.

i think it's a very interesting question: why did He weep in this instance?
for Lazarus?
for Mary's sorrow?
for unbelief?
for her statement “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.” -- and the implication of it?


He wasn't weeping here because the church was missing.
was He?
 
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Yet said:
The true biblical dynamic of the scriptural body of Christ is MISSING
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no it's not.
did you give up looking? don't.

i wish you could come with me on wednesday nights :(
 
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Brainfreeze said:
I think people are just shocked at how massively it all is.. this just shouldn't be.
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Please stop judging the thousands of local churches by what you see on tv.
Give me names if you can. Can you give me the name of 10 churches that are evil? Can you?
If you can not give me names, you should just be quite.
 
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It is estimated that there are 350,000 local churches in the US. 1000 qualify as mega churches (2000 plus) members.
To make a blanket statement as to the state of these churches is just foolishness.
I am sure some have had bad experiences, and there are churches that may be evil in what they preach and practice, but It seem that some on this forum want to use that bad experience as an excuse to no be a part of a local church and go so far as to condemn all and say all should be avoided.
Do you see how foolish that make you look?
 
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Persuaded said:
Please stop judging the thousands of local churches by what you see on tv.
Give me names if you can. Can you give me the name of 10 churches that are evil? Can you?
If you can not give me names, you should just be quite.
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There's probably over 3 million that support modern Israel, abortion, homo, lawless grace etc.. Most televised ministries as well, with 100s of millions of viewers. I would be listing all day. It's the people's job to look up and see what they are supporting. There's one thing I won't be though... & that's silent.
 
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Brainfreeze said:
There's probably over 3 million that support modern Israel, abortion, homo, lawless grace etc.. Most televised ministries as well, with 100s of millions of viewers. I would be listing all day. It's the people's job to look up and see what they are supporting. There's one thing I won't be though... & that's silent.
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I left the PCUSA because it has become so liberal its contrary to Scripture.
 
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