The SIN of the GOLDEN CALF

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breno785au

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An intriguing read, I actually read all of it! * I have a question, as I'm reading, I'm seeing a lot of Gods nature and His ways throughout so this is why I ask.
You said that God had put things on hold until He decided what to do...did you word that right or is that what you meant to say? I'm thinking I cant see God sitting working out what to do, but He already knows if you know what I mean?
Care to expand on that?
 

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An intriguing read, I actually read all of it! * I have a question, as I'm reading, I'm seeing a lot of Gods nature and His ways throughout so this is why I ask.
You said that God had put things on hold until He decided what to do...did you word that right or is that what you meant to say? I'm thinking I cant see God sitting working out what to do, but He already knows if you know what I mean?
Care to expand on that?
Well actually, it was God who said that he would have to decide what to do. I merely used his words. "Put of your ornaments from you that I may know what I shall do with you." It was not that God was indecisive in the matter. What he as waiting for was the intercession of Moses. What he would do with Israel would be determined by how Moses functioned in his role as mediator. God is allowing Moses to fulfill the type and God will listen to the mediator. This is why we see the bargaining going on for a period of days between God and Moses in the tent of meeting.

Thank you for taking the time to read all of that. I know it was a lot of information to sort through.
 
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A clear distinction between the things, as traditions of God and those oral traditions of sinful men must be made if we are to hear God aright. It is where the spirit of the antichrist, Satan gets his foot hold in the door.

In order to set the standard of walking by faith in respect to the spiritual not seen in order to witness to us God is not served by human hands in any way shape or form. God with his own hand hewn from stone used to represent the hard heart of natural man, separated from God , and with the finger of God wrote the loving commandment in respect to his eternal covenant with man.

Natural man who needs to walk by sight, as sources of faith that they can have in regard to that seen through and oral tradition of men apposed the things of God making his written tradition to no effect. .

Oral traditions like the golden calf were needed to put there misguided faith in, are Christ nemesis.

The body of precepts, which in the opinion of the apostate Jews were orally delivered by Moses and orally transmitted in unbroken succession to subsequent generations, which precepts, both illustrating and expanding the written law, as they did were to be obeyed with equal reverence as that which is written by the finger of God..

When Moses saw the calf, the stones were shattered to show that the oral tradition of men offend God. The second set God again hewn out stones but this time Moses was moved according to the will of God to re-write the laws..... again to show he is not served by human hands in any way shape or form.

This shows us I believe the idea of a succession of men from one generation to the next again apposes that which is written making it to no effect .This is seeing no man can serve two master as one final authority in matters of faith (the unseen )

It is why I believe he put the book of the law the Bible on the side(outside of the ark) to reveal as a witness to what was inside.and as that which is against us seeing he is perfect and we are not. It alone is the reforming authority in any generation that we call sola scriptura. All things written in the law and the prophets.

And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness “against thee” For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death? Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record "against them".For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands. Deu 31:24

Again as if he was served by human hands and he who has no needs but satisfies all, needed something from the clay he forms Christ in.

Putting ones faith in gold might get a person a bigger barn to store their idols but provides no way to soften our stony hearts .That is a work that God performs in us is according the working of his faith..... again as it is written .
 

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The law written on the stone was written by the hand of God the first time. "The tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets." Ex.32:15-16. The second time Moses was commanded to write the same things which were were written the first time. "Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments." Ex 34:27-28
 
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LOL. All the points I made in these three posts and all anyone can comment on is the stupid bull? LOL
He did say his on a train lol...

thank you for the knowledge and time you've placed into your writings.
 

breno785au

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Well actually, it was God who said that he would have to decide what to do. I merely used his words. "Put of your ornaments from you that I may know what I shall do with you." It was not that God was indecisive in the matter. What he as waiting for was the intercession of Moses. What he would do with Israel would be determined by how Moses functioned in his role as mediator. God is allowing Moses to fulfill the type and God will listen to the mediator. This is why we see the bargaining going on for a period of days between God and Moses in the tent of meeting.

Thank you for taking the time to read all of that. I know it was a lot of information to sort through.
That's really interesting, thanks for answering.

There's so much in that..
 
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The law written on the stone was written by the hand of God the first time. "The tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets." Ex.32:15-16. The second time Moses was commanded to write the same things which were were written the first time. "Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments." Ex 34:27-28
WOW..forty days without food or water. He must have had the Spirit of God on his flesh to do that. That's great information..thanks.

I noticed that the 10 commandments in the New Covenant are called the ministry of death by Paul. It's interesting how the New Covenant is so different from the Old Covenant. The 10 commandments were good and holy but they condemned us humans instead of creating holiness.

Thank God that our Lord fulfilled all the law and now His life in us is how we are to live. Love fulfills the law. We live by the law of the spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and the law of faith and love.. This New Covenant is so much better for us! Thank you Jesus!
 

oldhermit

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I am going to be gone for a few days. Going hog hunting. May be gone 4,5 maybe 10 days. Just depends on how I feel about it at the time. I'll try to catch to you comments when I get back. Be leaving in the morning.
 
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I am going to be gone for a few days. Going hog hunting. May be gone 4,5 maybe 10 days. Just depends on how I feel about it at the time. I'll try to catch to you comments when I get back. Be leaving in the morning.

Get one of these buddy and you'll eat for a year!..I wish you well in hunting. Bless you!


 
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I am going to be gone for a few days. Going hog hunting. May be gone 4,5 maybe 10 days. Just depends on how I feel about it at the time. I'll try to catch to you comments when I get back. Be leaving in the morning.
Whew whhhoo wish I was going.
 

oldhermit

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Get one of these buddy and you'll eat for a year!..I wish you well in hunting. Bless you!


That hog is probably about 600+ pounds. One that size would not be fit to eat. He wouldn't even be worth the time to process.
 
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That hog is probably about 600+ pounds. One that size would not be fit to eat. He wouldn't even be worth the time to process.
I hear ya' I'm a moose hunter and I always liked getting the younger bulls that weren't too big as they were much better eating.
 
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I am going to be gone for a few days. Going hog hunting. May be gone 4,5 maybe 10 days. Just depends on how I feel about it at the time. I'll try to catch to you comments when I get back. Be leaving in the morning.

Sounds like boaring fun. I go to piggy wiigly for mine
 
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The law written on the stone was written by the hand of God the first time. "The tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets." Ex.32:15-16. The second time Moses was commanded to write the same things which were were written the first time. "Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments." Ex 34:27-28

Thanks for offering those verses they are in respect to the point I was trying to make.