John 21:25
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Something i saw once in seattle written in concrete in the university district when i literally got my first watch at 20 years old.
"Real
Not fade away." It was by a mural site iirc.
His love is effective, it's a major source of light and truth. Has to be or it wouldn't be so controversial.
He's bigger than all the trials and such, he knows much more about what is happening on the grand scale as well as locally than any of us do individually or collectively and his perfect plan will not fail.
He loves us. All he does here ultimately is because he loves us. US. We're each like a grain on a beach, all of us, and yet of immeasurable worth to Dad.
I think about it, myself, how mysterious and wonderful he is, how wise our creator must be to hold all that is together for the good and yet love us so as individuals, and i think that maybe life isn't so bad after all here on third rock ^^
"Real
Not fade away." It was by a mural site iirc.
His love is effective, it's a major source of light and truth. Has to be or it wouldn't be so controversial.
He's bigger than all the trials and such, he knows much more about what is happening on the grand scale as well as locally than any of us do individually or collectively and his perfect plan will not fail.
He loves us. All he does here ultimately is because he loves us. US. We're each like a grain on a beach, all of us, and yet of immeasurable worth to Dad.
I think about it, myself, how mysterious and wonderful he is, how wise our creator must be to hold all that is together for the good and yet love us so as individuals, and i think that maybe life isn't so bad after all here on third rock ^^
You know, I had been looking at this before when it come up in the context of trying to justify extra RC doctrines that were supposedly passed on through the big "T" (Tradition) and one of the typical power grabs would be for that "books verse". They might point to the verse and say, look, see? Jesus did so many others things that the world couldnt contain the books should they all be written. But pointing that out was really in the context of seeking to justify these extra teachings (not in the scripture) or confirmed by them.
I see where it speaks more specifically there of what Jesus DID (not said) and I wouldnt doubt that because he would be the same yesterday, today and forever.
Although Jesus did things in secret (or they were just not written, whether they were done within the presence of his disciples or outside their presence) he did say he did not say anything in secret.
Luke writes of both what Jesus began to do and to teach
Acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus both began to do and to teach.
So I was looking at the many other things Jesus did and said, or that he did do and did teach (as they might be mentioned in that manner)
For example here, it speaks of other "signs" Jesus did not written
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
And then goes onto say,
John 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: (and so there were other things he had done in their presence not written down in Johns book)
But these are written for this purpose
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
And John also records what his disciples did not see Jesus doing (which was outside their presence)
For example here,
John 7:3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
There is what Jesus DID in the presence of his disciples (which were not written down) and the things Jesus DID outside of his disciples presence (which were also not written down) as he did things in secret (like when he went to up the feast, he did so in secret) but thats not a secret to us (because that was disclosed). And when he was being examined he stated he said nothing in secret John 18:20
As his brethren point out his disciples are not with him here (doing things outside of their presence)
John 7:4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.
Even here it says,
John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one,I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Which would make sense according to both of these scenarios combined given the number of lives touched.
Then this one
John 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.
So he stated he said nothing in secret. Then he gave them the words given him (to them) saying
John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
And these words include (within it) the knowlegde of what was not written (of the other things which Jesus did) and his words that in secret he said nothing.
The second verse
Ecc 12:11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. (John 17:8, Dueteronomy 18:18 -19, John 5:47, John 12:49, John 17:8, Acts 7:37, Hebrews 3:5 )
Ecc 12:12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh. (So then John 21:25 would confirm this one to the end also)
So I was looking at "many other things Jesus did" some of which were in the presence of the disciples others not but that Jesus also stated that he said nothing in secret. Besides, he could speak openly and others could have have ears and not hear any way, but I thought that was helpful to me in that other conversation when someone might be selling you a bill of goods. Its probably not here or there I guess, just something that had interested me
It's a good thing that Peter listened to the vision he had when he was praying in order to go with the people that came to him from Cornelius. This helped to usher in the gospel going to the gentiles.
All things needed to be tested but to deny dreams and visions that line up with the word of God is not wise.
Just because someone says - I had a vision - this does not make it wrong nor does it make it right. It needs to be tested with scripture and this doesn't necessarily mean what we think scripture says according to my church or my understanding of what religious teachings I was taught.
All things needed to be tested but to deny dreams and visions that line up with the word of God is not wise.
Just because someone says - I had a vision - this does not make it wrong nor does it make it right. It needs to be tested with scripture and this doesn't necessarily mean what we think scripture says according to my church or my understanding of what religious teachings I was taught.
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Amen.
Psalm 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.
John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Psalm 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.
John 17:17
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
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As time goes by and we are reading His Word., we learn how to also hear the Holy Spirit. Some believers hear more from the Word of God than other believers because they keep on hearing and hearing and hearing. I think believers who take the time to read and meditate will find out much much more that was not written down word for word but that had to be studied and gleaned out and held on to by sheer faith alone.
Because these spiritual truths could only be revealed by His Spirit and how familiar each of us are with Him. Faith to know you are saved and that Jesus is the Son of God and the propitiation for our sins and about the God head and heaven and hell and judgment and mercy and grace... These subjects alone take years to really down load into one's being. There is much more to them than first meets the eye and heart.
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Yes., another reason why our familiar walk with the Holy Spirit (personally) will give us discernment in such times and things. (each one of us is responsible for this) And also why being in a church body with other believers who we become friends with and we share joys and burdens with and where iron sharpening iron takes place is so important.
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I remember being at another man’s home at the invitation of his family members. He too was suffering from cancer. When I entered his home, the man had his television on. I started sharing Christ with him but he was not at all interested in what I was saying. He continued watching the television program. I knew then that his healing was a lost cause because faith for healing comes by hearing God’s Word, not by watching television, reading newspapers or listening to your favorite music.
Don’t get me wrong. I am not against these things, but they are not going to heal you. When you are sick, what you want is God’s healing flowing in your body. How does that happen?
One of the primary ways in which it happens is when you read your Bible, soaking up everything on Jesus. Before you know it, His divine health flows into your body, driving out every symptom of pain, sickness and disease. Even your discouragement dissolves effortlessly. You find yourself encouraged, refreshed and your darkness giving way to light. You see, there is no way you can feed on Jesus through reading and hearing His Word, and still remain the same. He said, “The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they arelife.” (John 6:63)
My friend, God wants Jesus to be food for you. We feed on Christ by seeing Him unveiled in the Word, by seeing and meditating on what the Holy Spirit reveals of His beauty and glory, and His finished work at Calvary. That is how we enjoy Jesus. It is like having a good meal. And when you do that, Jesus Himself promises that “he who feeds on Me will live because of Me”!
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I have found this to be true. Speaking as a person who looks for all means of distraction from the horrors and problems of life, I have been one who escaped in tv especially. It took my whole mind and captured my attention 100% and I liked it that way. My mind engaged in TV and nothing more but the feelings about what was on TV. I had learned this from childhood. TV was an escape.
It kept me from really dwelling on the problem AND most importantly dwelling on the solution. It seemed like there was NO solution and to dare to believe there could be one may sorely disappoint me should it not be so once I dared believe.
But when Jesus came into the equation and I began to "consider" Him as my focus and what He is and does., health came in along with the Lord's leading. Healthy thinking began flowing and not my own ideas and thoughts. Feeding on Jesus does accomplish all things in our lives.., and then we see there is even more than what we see today and then more to come for the next day., and the next., and the next and so on.
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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"]Some time ago, I visited a friend of a church member who had cancer and wanted healing. He was all ears, lapping and soaking up everything I shared with him. Today, he worships with us in our church and is completely healed of cancer.
I remember being at another man’s home at the invitation of his family members. He too was suffering from cancer. When I entered his home, the man had his television on. I started sharing Christ with him but he was not at all interested in what I was saying. He continued watching the television program. I knew then that his healing was a lost cause because faith for healing comes by hearing God’s Word, not by watching television, reading newspapers or listening to your favorite music.
Don’t get me wrong. I am not against these things, but they are not going to heal you. When you are sick, what you want is God’s healing flowing in your body. How does that happen?
One of the primary ways in which it happens is when you read your Bible, soaking up everything on Jesus. Before you know it, His divine health flows into your body, driving out every symptom of pain, sickness and disease. Even your discouragement dissolves effortlessly. You find yourself encouraged, refreshed and your darkness giving way to light. You see, there is no way you can feed on Jesus through reading and hearing His Word, and still remain the same. He said, “The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they arelife.” (John 6:63)
My friend, God wants Jesus to be food for you. We feed on Christ by seeing Him unveiled in the Word, by seeing and meditating on what the Holy Spirit reveals of His beauty and glory, and His finished work at Calvary. That is how we enjoy Jesus. It is like having a good meal. And when you do that, Jesus Himself promises that “he who feeds on Me will live because of Me”!
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I have found this to be true. Speaking as a person who looks for all means of distraction from the horrors and problems of life, I have been one who escaped in tv especially. It took my whole mind and captured my attention 100% and I liked it that way. My mind engaged in TV and nothing more but the feelings about what was on TV. I had learned this from childhood. TV was an escape.
It kept me from really dwelling on the problem AND most importantly dwelling on the solution. It seemed like there was NO solution and to dare to believe there could be one may sorely disappoint me should it not be so once I dared believe.
But when Jesus came into the equation and I began to "consider" Him as my focus and what He is and does., health came in along with the Lord's leading. Healthy thinking began flowing and not my own ideas and thoughts. Feeding on Jesus does accomplish all things in our lives.., and then we see there is even more than what we see today and then more to come for the next day., and the next., and the next and so on.