Christian life should be 24/7

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Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited
How,
1- we just go to church on Sunday
2- we pray there only
3- if we pray at home we do not do it with heart
4-we ask God to what we need , we do not ask God , what's God will
5-we do not read Bible
6- if we read we do not understand and follow
7- we do not care others and forgive
we need to live in God 24/7 , means 7 days and 24 hours of a day . read Bible and follow his will and pray in him and live in him
we are light , our works will be shown we are his sons and live in blood
we should limited in world and unlimited in God 24/7
 
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PurerInHeart

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I'm not one of them. I'm a full time Christian. I pray without ceasing for the most part, I have a hymn book at home and use it, I study the bible at home, often with my daughter, I physically serve others in order to serve God- which is my physical act of worship, and I come here almost every day to "go into all the world" teaching God's truth.
 

fredoheaven

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Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited
How,
1- we just go to church on Sunday
2- we pray there only
3- if we pray at home we do not do it with heart
4-we ask God to what we need , we do not ask God , what's God will
5-we do not read Bible
6- if we read we do not understand and follow
7- we do not care others and forgive
we need to live in God 24/7 , means 7 days and 24 hours of a day . read Bible and follow his will and pray in him and live in him
we are light , our works will be shown we are his sons and live in blood
we should limited in world and unlimited in God 24/7
Thank you for a bit reminders and posting of this one Knowingly been guilty sometimes specifically in #4, may the Lord have mercy on me.

God bless:)
 

breno785au

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Actually, I reread the original post, I'd say all of them. God, I need to lean on the power of your strength and not my own. I have tripped and fallen more than I have stepped. Bare me up by your mercy, teach me to know your ways.
 

fredoheaven

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yap what we really need is to live in God 24/7. In total agreement...
 
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Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited
How,
1- we just go to church on Sunday
2- we pray there only
3- if we pray at home we do not do it with heart
4-we ask God to what we need , we do not ask God , what's God will
5-we do not read Bible
6- if we read we do not understand and follow
7- we do not care others and forgive
we need to live in God 24/7 , means 7 days and 24 hours of a day . read Bible and follow his will and pray in him and live in him
we are light , our works will be shown we are his sons and live in blood
we should limited in world and unlimited in God 24/7
Well, this is all well and good and I'm sure everyone here will agree with you.

But do you have some scripture that will back up what you say?

HOW do we follow God 24/7?
Do you have some scripture along those lines?

This is bible study. We should be using the bible, no?

Fran
 

fredoheaven

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yap what we really need is to live in God 24/7. In total agreement...
This might be he verse in reference, having "Christ in you" makes living with God 24/7 though sometimes we fail but God's promises certainly will not fail us.:)

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
 
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To get a revelation of the below truth would go along ways to seeing who we really are in Christ and thus walk out His life that is in us..

Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.


Colossians 3:3 (NASB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP] For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
 

p_rehbein

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Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited
How,
1- we just go to church on Sunday
2- we pray there only
3- if we pray at home we do not do it with heart
4-we ask God to what we need , we do not ask God , what's God will
5-we do not read Bible
6- if we read we do not understand and follow
7- we do not care others and forgive
we need to live in God 24/7 , means 7 days and 24 hours of a day . read Bible and follow his will and pray in him and live in him
we are light , our works will be shown we are his sons and live in blood
we should limited in world and unlimited in God 24/7

While I agree that we are to live for Christ every minute of our days, I am not buying the broad brush condemnation of Christians you are painting. And, there are a couple of mistakes in your assumptions/assertions.

One glaring mistake is #4: Jesus Himself told us to pray for our needs.....and to pray for the needs of our brothers.

Now, as to the assertion "a large number of Christians," can you please provide the research data you have amassed to show that you actually interviewed a "large number of Christians" to reach your conclusion(s)?

Thanks........
 
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This might be he verse in reference, having "Christ in you" makes living with God 24/7 though sometimes we fail but God's promises certainly will not fail us.:)

Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Hi Fredoheaven

In reference to not following Jesus, I like this verse:

Mathew 15:8-9
'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.
NASB

Which is referring to a verse in
Isaiah 29:13
13Then the Lord said,
“Because this people draw near with their words
And honor Me with their lip service,
But they remove their hearts far from Me,
And their reverence for Me consists of tradition learned by rote,

And for living the Christian life, there are many verses. Here's one:

2 Corinthians 5:17
17Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.

There are more... Maybe others would like to post some...

Fran



 
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While I agree that we are to live for Christ every minute of our days, I am not buying the broad brush condemnation of Christians you are painting. And, there are a couple of mistakes in your assumptions/assertions.

One glaring mistake is #4: Jesus Himself told us to pray for our needs.....and to pray for the needs of our brothers.

Now, as to the assertion "a large number of Christians," can you please provide the research data you have amassed to show that you actually interviewed a "large number of Christians" to reach your conclusion(s)?

Thanks........
Where is the condemnation?
What the O.P. is stating is true.
Do you have some data showing that everyone who attends church is living a
Christianly life?

Maybe you go to a really good church. But it's obvious that although Jesus set up a church, I should say Church (both actually) there are a great many problems not only with members of churches but also with churches themselves.

The O.P. has nothing to prove - the proof is all around us if one wants to see it.

Jesus wants His followers to be more spiritual. He called the Pharisees hypocrites many times, Mathwew 23:13... The seven woes - and I think Jesus knew what He was talking about -- and this could also be applied to today.

Fran
 

p_rehbein

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Where is the condemnation?
What the O.P. is stating is true.
Do you have some data showing that everyone who attends church is living a
Christianly life?

Maybe you go to a really good church. But it's obvious that although Jesus set up a church, I should say Church (both actually) there are a great many problems not only with members of churches but also with churches themselves.

The O.P. has nothing to prove - the proof is all around us if one wants to see it.

Jesus wants His followers to be more spiritual. He called the Pharisees hypocrites many times, Mathwew 23:13... The seven woes - and I think Jesus knew what He was talking about -- and this could also be applied to today.

Fran
If it is true, then he should have data to support his assertion right?

I did not ASSERT that everyone attending church was living a Christian life.......I did not broad brush the subject. I didn't even mention "everyone attending church."


When one broad brush asserts, one has the duty to provide date to support their assertion......pretty basic stuff there.

FROM OP:

Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited



There is NO WAY anyone can accurately make this assertion........simply can not, for no one has the necessary evidence/data to support the claim "A LARGE NUMBER."


What is "A LARGE NUMBER?" Subjective at best...........and simple opinion, not Truth. That is the point.

As well, the other points I addressed you seem to have passed over..........hmm
 
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Well, this is all well and good and I'm sure everyone here will agree with you.

But do you have some scripture that will back up what you say?

HOW do we follow God 24/7?
Do you have some scripture along those lines?

This is bible study. We should be using the bible, no?

Fran
“Teacher, which commandment [is] greatest in the law?” And he said to him, “*‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the greatest and first commandment. Matthew 22:36-38
 

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If it is true, then he should have data to support his assertion right?

I did not ASSERT that everyone attending church was living a Christian life.......I did not broad brush the subject. I didn't even mention "everyone attending church."


When one broad brush asserts, one has the duty to provide date to support their assertion......pretty basic stuff there.

FROM OP:

Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited



There is NO WAY anyone can accurately make this assertion........simply can not, for no one has the necessary evidence/data to support the claim "A LARGE NUMBER."


What is "A LARGE NUMBER?" Subjective at best...........and simple opinion, not Truth. That is the point.

As well, the other points I addressed you seem to have passed over..........hmm

This might be the data you are looking for... Matthew 7:13 Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the way that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Peace.
 
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FreeNChrist

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"There are a few things quite so boring as being religious, but there is nothing quite so exciting as being a Christian! Most folks have never discovered the difference between the one and the other, so that there are those who sincerely try to live a life they do not have, substituting religion for God, Christianity for Christ, and their noble endeavors for the energy, joy, and power of the Holy Spirit. In the absence of reality, they can only grasp at ritual, stubbornly defending the latter in the absence of the former, lest they be found with neither!

They are lamps without oil, cars without gas, and pens without ink, baffled at their own impotence in the absence of all that alone can make man functional; for man was so engineered by God that the presence of the Creator within the creature is indispensable to his humanity. Christ came that we may have life - God's life!

There are those who have a life they never live. They have come to Christ and thanked Him only for what He did, but do not live in the power of who He is. They live in a spiritual vacuum, trying with no little zeal to live for Christ a life that only He can live in and through them, perpetually begging for what in Him they already have!" - Major Ian Thomas
 
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psychomom

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for man was so engineered by God that the presence of the Creator within the creature is indispensable to his humanity. Christ came that we may have life - God's life!" - Major Ian Thomas
lol, Ian used to say ALL the time, "Christ didn't come just to get man out of hell and into heaven. He came to get God back into man." :)
 
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JustWhoIAm

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Actually, I reread the original post, I'd say all of them. God, I need to lean on the power of your strength and not my own. I have tripped and fallen more than I have stepped. Bare me up by your mercy, teach me to know your ways.
If i were a spiritual authority in your life, i would encourage you to pray for an honest desire for the intimacy you seek. It might take sacrifices, setting aside time just to pray at first, but i'm pretty sure that i can tell you in good conscience where some may hit a block here, if it helps -

Talk to your Dad like he is sitting right next to you, like you two are the best of friends (of course there's a degree of respect involved, but he wants to be your pal). Forget 'religion'. Focus on your friendship. As if... almost as if you're talking to yourself, which you would be in a way :) he lives in a believer's heart.

The rest comes naturally from being in tune with the King through your time hanging out.

Remember to thank him for blessings regularly, gratitude goes a long way. He likes that. God, yeah he's supreme and holy, but he has feelings just like any of us do.
 
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If it is true, then he should have data to support his assertion right?

I did not ASSERT that everyone attending church was living a Christian life.......I did not broad brush the subject. I didn't even mention "everyone attending church."


When one broad brush asserts, one has the duty to provide date to support their assertion......pretty basic stuff there.

FROM OP:

Today. a large numbers of Christians lives limited



There is NO WAY anyone can accurately make this assertion........simply can not, for no one has the necessary evidence/data to support the claim "A LARGE NUMBER."


What is "A LARGE NUMBER?" Subjective at best...........and simple opinion, not Truth. That is the point.

As well, the other points I addressed you seem to have passed over..........hmm
Hi PR

I liked BlessedJohn80's reply. That's about all the polls you'll be needing.

I mean, if I have to post a poll for everything I think, we'll never get anywhere!
I just don't think the O.P. is making an outrageous claim, I didn't mean to be discourteous with you.

The church I go to is full on Sundays. I know FOR SURE that about 80% of people there go to Mass and then forget about God for the rest of the week. Not only do they not show the power in Christianity, but they don't even follow Jesus' teachings. They don't even think of them. Very few do. I'm surprised that you've never noticed this...

I think it's okay to say " a large number ". OTOH, if I misspoke by using the word "everyone" I apologize but it does seem apparent that it's just a misspoken word since not EVERYONE ever does EVERYTHING.

As to your other points:

You did not agree with no. 4 of the O.P.'s list which stated that people ask God for their needs when praying instead of asking for His will.

Actually, this is correct. God is not Santa, as they say. The reason we pray is to find out what HIS will is for our lives. When Jesus was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane He asked for God's will and not His own.

We could go to God and pray for our needs, but it's wiser to pray that we can accept what comes our way.
This discussion would get into a whole different field that would change the thread, so I'll stop here.

I'd like to post Mathew 6:9-13 How To Pray, Or The Lord's Prayer.

Check out verse 11. "Give us this day our daily bread." The only physical need in the whole prayer. And a very fundamental one - we don't have too many worldly needs if we follow Jesus because we're to accept what comes our way.
See Luke 9:23 - we're to pick up our cross daily.

Fran