THE SCALES FELL

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thepsalmist

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Acts 9:15-18
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:
For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.






I just received a new thought on these verses this morning...


I always thought of the scales that fell from Paul's eyes as being his own judgmental nature - for he went around being judge, jury and executioner of Christ's disciples.


And that may be correct.


But now I think that the scales that fell from his eyes ALSO denote HOW GOD SEES and judges Paul. When God looks on us (Christians) - He sees Christ's blood ... but before we are reborn maybe He sees scales .... by which He weighs us.


Paul received his sight and the Holy Spirit and the scales fell. He was sealed for adoption and covered in Christ's perfection and God now saw a saint rather than someone who had to be weighed in the balance by the law.


Please respond gently ... for, to me, this is a pearl ...

Good morning brothers and sisters in Christ :)
 

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Hehe. Lepis, I've seen it as a lizard shedding his skin, Paul receiving new life.
 
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Hehe. Lepis, I've seen it as a lizard shedding his skin, Paul receiving new life.
Nods ... I think it could possibly be all three at once ... they do not contradict each other. :)
 

crossnote

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Nods ... I think it could possibly be all three at once ... they do not contradict each other. :)
It's hard to be dogmatic on this one since the word is used only once in the NT.

GK G3318 | S G3013 λεπίς lepis 1xa scale, shell, rind, crust, incrustation, Acts 9:18*
 

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2 Corinthians 3:12-16
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
 

p_rehbein

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It's hard to be dogmatic on this one since the word is used only once in the NT.

GK G3318 | S G3013 λεπίς lepis 1xa scale, shell, rind, crust, incrustation, Acts 9:18*
Quoting you for the "translated words"

Sister........ In my opinion........

God judges justly regardless of our condition saved or unsaved.....as for using scales....well, problem is ONE sin outweighs a lifetime of good works does it not? That is, if that sin is not repented of.....

Paul was struck blind, and I always saw this as his eyes were "crusted" over, and those were the scales that fell. Sometimes, again, in my opinion, Scripture is really as simple as it reads with no hidden meaning.

His (Paul's) state before salvation was a problem with his heart..........and God dealt with that as well. :)

Anyway, that' just me I suppose.
 
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Quoting you for the "translated words"

Sister........ In my opinion........

God judges justly regardless of our condition saved or unsaved.....as for using scales....well, problem is ONE sin outweighs a lifetime of good works does it not? That is, if that sin is not repented of.....

Paul was struck blind, and I always saw this as his eyes were "crusted" over, and those were the scales that fell. Sometimes, again, in my opinion, Scripture is really as simple as it reads with no hidden meaning.

His (Paul's) state before salvation was a problem with his heart..........and God dealt with that as well. :)

Anyway, that' just me I suppose.
That's fine Reihben :)

Maybe this is exclusive to my personal relationship with the Lord ... but I find that He offers me insights into His word in multitudes of ways. Like any good teacher I find He offers different ways to, or symbols that lead to, the same truth according to the student and where they are at. To me this is what is meant by "the word is alive" - I continue to glean new things from the same verse each time I read it, not because the words are different, but because the Holy Spirit offers me new depth or perceptions in the symbols.

I think we have no argument between us when they all lead to the same truth - Here Paul was reborn and made a new creation ...

As for the scales that weigh in the balance - to me it makes sense ... because if a Jew is not in Christ but striving to reach salvation through works ... then he falls under the burden of law by which God WOULD weigh the curses and blessings one has incurred. Of course you are right that the curses would always outweigh the blessings. This is why we need Christ the savior.

King Belchazzar was one who was weighed in the balance ... and of course fell short.
 
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thepsalmist

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It's hard to be dogmatic on this one since the word is used only once in the NT.

GK G3318 | S G3013 λεπίς lepis 1xa scale, shell, rind, crust, incrustation, Acts 9:18*
My intent is not to be dogmatic anyways ... so to me it is all good... just thought I would share with my brethren something I found exciting. :)

May God bless you always~
 

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Perhaps if we consider why Paul was blind to begin with we would draw a more accurate conclusion of what was the purpose of the falling scales.

Paul may have needed some time to ponder what had befallen him on the road to Emmaus that day. Time for the Lord to minister in his heart in preparation for his ministry to his Savior. Paul had a lot so stuff to relearn and a lot of errors to correct.

For the cause of Christ
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Here is a snippet from a old thread I wrote awhile back on how I believe the scales are symbolic of pride which makes blind.

It is written Psalm 10:4 “The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.” And also here in Psalm 59:12 “For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.”

Pride
is like scales that cover the eyes of the carnally minded man that cannot see the spiritual things of God. It is written of Saul in
Acts 9:1 “And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord…”

But the Lord Jesus would be revealed to Saul and ask Saul why he persecuted Him by persecuting his disciples. And then Saul would be made blind for 3 days until he received the Holy Ghost. But what I want you to see here is how it is described when Saul received his sight here in
Acts 9:18 “And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.”

I believe this wording of the
scales falling from the eyes is very important clue to see how the children of pride are blind until the Spirit of God anoints their eyes so they can see. In Job chapter 41 we see a sea beast called Leviathan which is a symbolism of the Red Dragon working in the many waters of humanity as shown in the book of Revelation. Notice in Job it says his scales are his pride….


Job 41:15 “His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.” He is also shown as the king of the children of pride. Job 41:34 “He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.”
 
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Perhaps if we consider why Paul was blind to begin with we would draw a more accurate conclusion of what was the purpose of the falling scales.

Paul may have needed some time to ponder what had befallen him on the road to Emmaus that day. Time for the Lord to minister in his heart in preparation for his ministry to his Savior. Paul had a lot so stuff to relearn and a lot of errors to correct.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I'm sorry ... but I'm not sure what you are trying to convey, precisely ...
 
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I think it's important to keep in mind that the verse says "something LIKE scales fell from his eyes" ... denoting similie, metaphor, symbol ... not necessarily lieral. :)
 
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Here is a snippet from a old thread I wrote awhile back on how I believe the scales are symbolic of pride which makes blind.

It is written Psalm 10:4 “The wicked, through the pride of his countenance, will not seek after God: God is not in all his thoughts.” And also here in Psalm 59:12 “For the sin of their mouth and the words of their lips let them even be taken in their pride: and for cursing and lying which they speak.”

Pride
is like scales that cover the eyes of the carnally minded man that cannot see the spiritual things of God. It is written of Saul in
Acts 9:1 “And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord…”

But the Lord Jesus would be revealed to Saul and ask Saul why he persecuted Him by persecuting his disciples. And then Saul would be made blind for 3 days until he received the Holy Ghost. But what I want you to see here is how it is described when Saul received his sight here in
Acts 9:18 “And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.”

I believe this wording of the
scales falling from the eyes is very important clue to see how the children of pride are blind until the Spirit of God anoints their eyes so they can see. In Job chapter 41 we see a sea beast called Leviathan which is a symbolism of the Red Dragon working in the many waters of humanity as shown in the book of Revelation. Notice in Job it says his scales are his pride….


Job 41:15 “His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.” He is also shown as the king of the children of pride. Job 41:34 “He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.”
I wrote the same in her reps earlier and I was like, you are crazy to share any pearls here LOL!

I love that one

(Howdy)
 

p_rehbein

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I think it's important to keep in mind that the verse says "something LIKE scales fell from his eyes" ... denoting similie, metaphor, symbol ... not necessarily lieral. :)
Yes, that's why I used the translated words I quoted.......in this instance........ "crust" as in his eyes were crusted over.....that isn't the same as scales, which can either be an instrument used to measure weights, or the scales on a fish 'n' such......

Crust is "something like scales" though.

:)

Anyway
 
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thepsalmist

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I wrote the same in her reps earlier and I was like, you are crazy to share any pearls here LOL!

I love that one

(Howdy)
As I considered your words of caveat I realized that my faith in God and my relationship with Him is steadfast enough to endure any words that may try to trample my pearls here. In other words I believe what God told me this morning in an unshakeable, unsiftable way ... no one can trample that revelation for me. Nor can I be torn to bits here, because for me God's instruction to me is far above anyone else's.

So I guess my plea was simply that we discuss our mutual understanding of the verses in a respectful manner ... which - praise God! - it has been. :)

I think we should all be able to offer our insights without a need to tear down anothers' - unless they clearly oppose the truth of the message.
 
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Yes, that's why I used the translated words I quoted.......in this instance........ "crust" as in his eyes were crusted over.....that isn't the same as scales, which can either be an instrument used to measure weights, or the scales on a fish 'n' such......

Crust is "something like scales" though.

:)

Anyway
I believe it can be compared to scales as in weighing scales if you consider all that I have put forth to a conclusion of it's meaning -respectfully.
 
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I wrote the same in her reps earlier and I was like, you are crazy to share any pearls here LOL!

I love that one

(Howdy)
If I recall that thread I wrote on the topic of pride did get a bit trampled under foot, but she did seem sincere in her search so I thought I would try to shed a little light on the subject. Sometimes you have to suffer the dogs and swine in order to feed the sheep. Peace (and howdy back) :)
 
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I think this is something like discussing colors ... to one it appears solid red, to another it is pink, to another it is pinkish red ...

If one says it is blue then he is clearly off the mark ... but I see all responses here as being shades of the same color. I don't know if everyone can understand that though.
 
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If I recall that thread I wrote on the topic of pride did get a bit trampled under foot, but she did seem sincere in her search so I thought I would try to shed a little light on the subject. Sometimes you have to suffer the dogs and swine in order to feed the sheep. Peace (and howdy back) :)
For myself - your reasoning equates soundly with mine ... as do all the responses here.
 

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Thank you for giving us spiritual food.

I'll think about this all day.