The rotten cancer of pornography?

[MahogonySnail]

I don't consider it wise to blame people who are addicted to it, when it is not their fault, it is the people who are pushing it in their faces.
Just like I don't blame smokers addiction on the smoker but on the tabacco company.
Harsh measures should be put towards the porn industry.
It won't be economically positive but if we do consider it a cancer then cancers are normally destroyed or removed from the body.

 

[pinkie]

lets not attack each other when we are all for one God and all for stopping such things which are against Gods wishes brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus.

 

[pinkie]

talking about stopping such a damaging and disrespectful industry is great but im sure satan is enjoying causing conflict between us.

God Bless n goodnight

 

[Jordan9]

I'm afraid we might have misunderstood each other. The Chinese law that you cited said that possession of pornography was fined. I took that to mean the customers. I don't think I'd be opposed to fining the pornography companies themselves, either, if that's what you were saying.

 

[pinkie]

p.s if we blame others for our own adult choices...........which one individual is responsible for what we do?

like prostitution. if there were no prositutes there would be no one using them. if there was no porn there would be no one buying it.
it isnt a Godly thing otherwise it would not exist.....its fleshy. so its about money and power.......and the consequences are disrespecting of women and damaging of marriages and the breaking up of families... unfortunately, in the process

 

[1still_waters]

p.s if we blame others for our own adult choices...........which one individual is responsible for what we do?

like prostitution. if there were no prositutes there would be no one using them. if there was no porn there would be no one buying it.
it isnt a Godly thing otherwise it would not exist.....its fleshy. so its about money and power.......and the consequences are disrespecting of women and damaging of marriages and the breaking up of families... unfortunately, in the process

It's the chicken and the egg thing. If there was no demand, they wouldn't exist. Why isn't there an aisle full of mailboxes with a painting of mr rogers on the side at wal-mart. Cuz of no demand.

Like I said earlier, the problem is with the one doing the tempting and the one giving in to their temptation. It's a two way road.

 

[Consumed]

It's the chicken and the egg thing. If there was no demand, they wouldn't exist. Why isn't there an aisle full of mailboxes with a painting of mr rogers on the side at wal-mart. Cuz of no demand.

Like I said earlier, the problem is with the one doing the tempting and the one giving in to their temptation. It's a two way road.

real problem is and has been taking it and saying its ok, adult pornography translated is adult sexual immorality (porneo- greek-to be sexually immoral). The decline in morals has seen an escalations and eroding of societies values these last 30-40 yrs, i know its been around for centuries yet never was it socially accepted to the level it is today.reflection of societies veiws, core values and morals.

Come Jesus Come

 

[miktre]

I don't consider it wise to blame people who are addicted to it, when it is not their fault, it is the people who are pushing it in their faces.
Just like I don't blame smokers addiction on the smoker but on the tabacco company.
Harsh measures should be put towards the porn industry.
It won't be economically positive but if we do consider it a cancer then cancers are normally destroyed or removed from the body.

I think you have a very important point here. There is a definite movement by these people to get children exposed to this material at a very young age. They go above and beyond to push this smut upon people. They also prey upon young women and drug them up to make the movies.

 

[1still_waters]

I don't consider it wise to blame people who are addicted to it, when it is not their fault, it is the people who are pushing it in their faces.
Just like I don't blame smokers addiction on the smoker but on the tabacco company.
Harsh measures should be put towards the porn industry.
It won't be economically positive but if we do consider it a cancer then cancers are normally destroyed or removed from the body.

Definitely agree. Holding people accountable for their own actions is a no no.

Said in love

 

[Consumed]

Definitely agree. Holding people accountable for their own actions is a no no.

Said in love

open rebuke is better than hidden love,
ezekiel- paraphrased, you see a beleiver sin, surely he will die in his sin but the blood be on your hands
see him and say something, he keeps sinning, surely he will die in his sin, no blood on your hands.

its how we approach one who is sinning, to say nothing is sin itself.

Tell them once with love, pray for them that point on.
most importantly, if you dont have a relationship with them, dont say much til you do, use wisdom and prayer

 

[miktre]

The porn addict I'd say would have an easier time of making it to heaven than the porn maker. The porn addict would have an easier time of repenting and turning from sin. Don't think to many of these porn producers are willing to give up making all that money and repent.

 

[Consumed]

Said in love[/quote]

The porn addict I'd say would have an easier time of making it to heaven than the porn maker. The porn addict would have an easier time of repenting and turning from sin. Don't think to many of these porn producers are willing to give up making all that money and repent.

all it takes is one touch from Jesus, just one touch to melt ones heart, pray for them, "His eyes go to and fro seeking those who will stand in the gap"


Moses stood in the gap, if he didnt, no cross on calvary, no salvation

 

[miktre]

all it takes is one touch from Jesus, just one touch to melt ones heart, pray for them, "His eyes go to and fro seeking those who will stand in the gap"


Moses stood in the gap, if he didnt, no cross on calvary, no salvation

Amen, not impossible but greater difficulty for them.

 

[MahogonySnail]

But it is more than just an action/choice, that blame falls squarely on the person. You wouldn't blame anyone for falling into a hole, you'd blame whoever dug the hole for them to fall into. Most porn addicts start by harmlessly searching the internet at a young age, and it's all there for the taking. If it wasn't there in the first place, it could be avoided. If TV wasn't literred with near pornographic images, there also would be less temptation.
I don't believe anyone smokes cigarettes because they taste good, but because of the image. Take away the image, (which they've tried to do by putting pictures of health effects of smoking on packets), and you deal with the real issue. They've tried similar with porn by having former actresses detail what it's really like off camera.

I think it's contradicatory for people to say, "dear God please stop porn in this country", and then when we have examples in China for example of censored internet and these things outlawed, which must be effective to some degree, we reject that as a solution. God isn't going to come down and automatically remove every pornmaker from America, or overthrow the laws.

 

[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

Where does most porn come from? America.
Who made the internet? America.
What country does Time Warner and other companies that distribute porn belong to? America.

Include Jews in the list too then.


Pornography generates billions of dollars in sales in the United States alone, and economists have suggested that it has now reached the point where the outlawing of the industry, which has been tried on occasion, could have a major negative economic impact. An outright ban, it is feared, might spark a rise in organized crime similar to that during Prohibition.
An estimated 211 new pornographic films are made every week in the United States.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_by_region#United_States


Why can't we learn from China?:

"Possession of pornography is punishable by up to 3 years in prison, a fine of 20,000 yuan, or even execution for large underground distributors."

Because we're too soft to take such drastic measures. Why pray about God changing it when communist atheist China has already found the answer?

 

[MahogonySnail]

Oh yeah, America!

Hypothetically, if America had no porn, and Australia produced most of the porn in the world, 200 something films a week, like they do in America, and it was being sold and sent to your country and polluting young women's and mens minds, you'd probably have invaded my country by now.

 

[lightbliss]

Oh yeah, America!

Hypothetically, if America had no porn, and Australia produced most of the porn in the world, 200 something films a week, like they do in America, and it was being sold and sent to your country and polluting young women's and mens minds, you'd probably have invaded my country by now.

People can choose not to watch it.

 

[miktre]

Oh yeah, America!

Hypothetically, if America had no porn, and Australia produced most of the porn in the world, 200 something films a week, like they do in America, and it was being sold and sent to your country and polluting young women's and mens minds, you'd probably have invaded my country by now.

I would warn you not to watch anything that comes from America and that means TV shows and movies also. Because we have been so greatly blessed the enemy has infiltrated us like tares amongst the wheat. The want to destroy the American Christian family and Australian also, they know to do this they must first destroy the morality of a nation. This is the way the world is, we are not of this world. So keep fighting the good fight Snail.

 

[Wug]

I think that the main reason that it wasn't outlawed here is because it's hard to define what pornography is. Some say it has to be explicit footage or depictions of sexual acts. Others would consider mere nudity to be pornography. And the fear is that the law would eventually become so severe that we would have to censor medical textbooks. I think that what counts as pornography is different to each individual. Different things have different effects on different people. That is why each individual should do everything under their own discretion, and choose a path that honors God. If you're forced to abstain from porn because the government tells you not to, but you still lust, you are not honoring God, but the government.
As far as who's fault it is, I think that the responsibility always lies with an individual. Every time some one looks at porn, they make a conscious decision to do it. They're always capable of not doing it. As with all sin, we have a choice whether or not to commit it. Not to say that the makers aren't evil as well. Essentially, they're the pushers, the public is the user.
I admit, I'm a smoker. No one tricked me into smoking. The tobacco companies didn't tell me I'd look cool. Tobacco advertisements have been illegal since I was six. It was my own stupid choice to ever start. The responsibility lies solely with me, not with the tobacco companies.
When one looks at pornography, they know danged well that what they're doing is wrong, just like I knew when I smoked for the first time that it was wrong. If they all behaved, and didn't give in to the addictive substance that is porn, there would be no porn. Just like it was said earlier about supply and demand. Supply and demand are the two unbreakable laws of economics. If there is no demand for something, people won't make it. Responsibility lies on both sides, but each individual is to be held accountable.

 

[Wug]

I think that the main reason that it wasn't outlawed here is because it's hard to define what pornography is. Some say it has to be explicit footage or depictions of sexual acts. Others would consider mere nudity to be pornography. And the fear is that the law would eventually become so severe that we would have to censor medical textbooks. I think that what counts as pornography is different to each individual. Different things have different effects on different people. That is why each individual should do everything under their own discretion, and choose a path that honors God. If you're forced to abstain from porn because the government tells you not to, but you still lust, you are not honoring God, but the government.
As far as who's fault it is, I think that the responsibility always lies with an individual. Every time some one looks at porn, they make a conscious decision to do it. They're always capable of not doing it. As with all sin, we have a choice whether or not to commit it. Not to say that the makers aren't evil as well. Essentially, they're the pushers, the public is the user.
I admit, I'm a smoker. No one tricked me into smoking. The tobacco companies didn't tell me I'd look cool. Tobacco advertisements have been illegal since I was six. It was my own stupid choice to ever start. The responsibility lies solely with me, not with the tobacco companies.
When one looks at pornography, they know danged well that what they're doing is wrong, just like I knew when I smoked for the first time that it was wrong. If they all behaved, and didn't give in to the addictive substance that is porn, there would be no porn. Just like it was said earlier about supply and demand. Supply and demand are the two unbreakable laws of economics. If there is no demand for something, people won't make it. Responsibility lies on both sides, but each individual is to be held accountable.