Be Careful of Becoming a Judge

[JaumeJ]

It is very important for all who believe Jesus Christ to keep always in mind that anyone who has broken even the least of the laws has broken all of the law.

Keep this thought in mind always, especially when tempted to say one person's sin is unforgiveable when we know there is only one sin that fits that bill.

Keep that thought in mind also when tempted to juadge anyone as being un pardonable, for we are all sinners, this means you also, therefore if you do not have mercy on your brethren, you willl not receive mercy for you will have judged yourself.

When we know another is sinning or has sinned, we, like our Master, shoulc always choose mercy over condemnation, and we will always bee seen with mercy.

It is ironic how so many here who are the first to scream grace are teh first to judge another for whatever sin he deems unforgiveable. Amazing, but they were areound at the time our Lord first came to save us.

Remember the teaching of Jesus: mercy, justice, and faith.......amen

 

[Blain]

I think the main issue is people mistaking what judging is. Many say that what they do is righteously judging but this is not so for who among us can righteously judge being unrighteous ourselves? The word Judge has different definitions and meaning it can mean one of authority who decides the fates of others with their hammer but in the bible it is mainly used especially when it refers to us to decide or discern

 

[JaumeJ]

There are two types of judging. The one we should never do is judge to damnation.

Now the second type we are commanded by Jesus Christ to do, and that is to judge for ourselves what is right. He tells us if we do not do this we are hypocrites. The pivotal words in this commend is "for ourselves ," He is not teaching us to judge for others what is right, for who knows they may be justified no matter what the appearances.

It is all fairly simpel to understand.......God bless all in Jesus Christ, and all who will be in Him, amen.

 

[Blain]

It's fairly simple yet why do many just not understand? I see so many point the finger to others far before themselves those who claim the title Christian and show anything but Love. Now I cannot judge or condemn them and I can give loving correction and point out something they know we as Christians should not do but if I began to show a judging attitude and confuse correction with judging then that is when I have gone to far.

I think God knows who has the right heart Judge, I don't have any intention of pointing the finger to anyone but myself and i am not comfortable being in a position of authority but I do believe that if in fact we are called to judge as in having the hammer he would only choose those who have humble loving and patient hearts. personally the only one I judge is myself and honestly I think i do it a little to much

 

[NarrowRoadDisciple]

There are two types of judging. The one we should never do is judge to damnation.

Now the second type we are commanded by Jesus Christ to do, and that is to judge for ourselves what is right. He tells us if we do not do this we are hypocrites. The pivotal words in this commend is "for ourselves ," He is not teaching us to judge for others what is right, for who knows they may be justified no matter what the appearances.

It is all fairly simpel to understand.......God bless all in Jesus Christ, and all who will be in Him, amen.

Paul specifically says we do not judge those who are outside (the body). Do we not judge those who are inside (the body)? For those who are outside the body of Christ, God has already judged them. However, they do have the chance to accept Christ's sacrifice and resurrection for us, die to self, die to the world and its ways, repent of a life lived outside of Christ, and come out of that darkness into life.

We are never called to judge someone's salvation. We are called to judge within the body the doctrine, fruit, and beliefs of those who claim Christ as Lord and Savior. How else do we help a brother who is in sin, so they may be restored and return to the Lord?

It's not simply about judging for ourselves what is right. God already tells us what is right and thus we can know what is wrong. Our responsibility is to seek what is pleasing to God, and not to ourselves. When we find what is pleasing to God we walk in this and forsake that which is displeasing to Him.

When as according to Matthew 7, we remove the log from our eye, we will see more clearly how to help a brother remove the speck from theirs. We cannot address the sin in a brother if we are in the exact same sin ourselves. It causes our witnessing to that brother to be of no effect and have no power. This is about hypocrisy and is not about judging for another person what is right. God already has established what is right. However, what is considered right in God's eyes is not something that is personal. This is something that is for the entire body. I'm not speaking about personal issues or temptations in the life of a brother, but specifically what God says about things regarding what is truth in His eyes. While there may be many applications of that truth, the underlying truth does not change and has not changed throughout history.

 

[crossnote]

Keep this thought in mind always, especially when tempted to say one person's sin is unforgiveable when we know there is only one sin that fits that bill.

Keep that thought in mind also when tempted to juadge anyone as being un pardonable, for we are all sinners, this means you also, therefore if you do not have mercy on your brethren, you willl not receive mercy for you will have judged yourself.

Not clear on what is being said here. Are you saying that lack of mercy to others is the unpardonable sin?

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

It is very important for all who believe Jesus Christ to keep always in mind that anyone who has broken even the least of the laws has broken all of the law.

Keep this thought in mind always, especially when tempted to say one person's sin is unforgiveable when we know there is only one sin that fits that bill.

Keep that thought in mind also when tempted to juadge anyone as being un pardonable, for we are all sinners, this means you also, therefore if you do not have mercy on your brethren, you willl not receive mercy for you will have judged yourself.

When we know another is sinning or has sinned, we, like our Master, shoulc always choose mercy over condemnation, and we will always bee seen with mercy.

It is ironic how so many here who are the first to scream grace are teh first to judge another for whatever sin he deems unforgiveable. Amazing, but they were areound at the time our Lord first came to save us.

Remember the teaching of Jesus: mercy, justice, and faith.......amen

How do you see these instructions for judgement?
Are they to be applied to the body of the church today, or do they only apply to those members of the church of Corinth back then?

1 Corinthians 5:9-13
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[Marcelo]

[h=1]Matthew 7:1New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=3] Do not judge, or you too will be judged.[/h]
Learning Christ's doctrine is not like learning math, physics or any other school subject. Once you grasp a physics concept, for example, you'll never forget it. I know intellectually that I should not judge others, but oftentimes I commit this sin, which means I do not really understand the IMPORTANCE OF NOT JUDGING OTHERS.

 

[NarrowRoadDisciple]

Matthew 7:1New International Version (NIV)

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.


Learning Christ's doctrine is not like learning math, physics or any other school subject. Once you grasp a physics concept, for example, you'll never forget it. I know intellectually that I should not judge others, but oftentimes I commit this sin, which means I do not really understand the IMPORTANCE OF NOT JUDGING OTHERS.

The problem with taking that verse alone is that it fails to grasp the context of the chapter, which is warning against hypocritical judgment. It's not a chapter that makes a blanket statement against ALL judgment. The only judgment that Christians cannot make is judgment of the heart status, ie judging whether someone is saved or not.

 

[Blain]

The problem with taking that verse alone is that it fails to grasp the context of the chapter, which is warning against hypocritical judgment. It's not a chapter that makes a blanket statement against ALL judgment. The only judgment that Christians cannot make is judgment of the heart status, ie judging whether someone is saved or not.

we also cannot judge others in a condemning manner. Like if I was bringing the hammer down on a person who lied and yet I also lie I am not only a major hypocrite but I am judging another. As for the not making the judgement of the heart statues and judging whether one is saved or not I think this can be interpreted to mean different things. For instance if you have known someone for a long time you know their pattern of behavior you know how the act how they speak how they tend to think you can discern if their hearts are for God or for the world if they are Christians or not.

Now to judge them for this to point the finger and lash out to be the holier than thou your going to the bottomless pit and burning brimstone person this is not what a Christian does

 

[NyKayAk]

It is very important for all who believe Jesus Christ to keep always in mind that anyone who has broken even the least of the laws has broken all of the law.

It is very important for all who believe Jesus Christ to keep always in mind that anyone who has obeyed even the least of the laws has obeyed all of the law.

 

[mpaper345]

It is very important for all who believe Jesus Christ to keep always in mind that anyone who has broken even the least of the laws has broken all of the law.

Keep this thought in mind always, especially when tempted to say one person's sin is unforgiveable when we know there is only one sin that fits that bill.

Keep that thought in mind also when tempted to juadge anyone as being un pardonable, for we are all sinners, this means you also, therefore if you do not have mercy on your brethren, you willl not receive mercy for you will have judged yourself.

When we know another is sinning or has sinned, we, like our Master, shoulc always choose mercy over condemnation, and we will always bee seen with mercy.

It is ironic how so many here who are the first to scream grace are teh first to judge another for whatever sin he deems unforgiveable. Amazing, but they were areound at the time our Lord first came to save us.

Remember the teaching of Jesus: mercy, justice, and faith.......amen

Joh_8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

The Bible says judge not,lest you be judged,but this is talking in a condemning manner,for we did not have power to save our self,but Jesus forgave our sins,so we are sinners too,although forgiven,so for us to judge in a condemning manner,when we were sinners,and we did not save our self,would be wrong,for if we judge in that way,then God will judge us that way,and will your sins be forgiven then.

But the Bible says we can judge,and the saints will judge the world,and will judge angels,which the saints can judge,if it comes from the word of God,of what God wants,and His truth,but we must be first clean our self doing right,before we are qualified to judge another,for if not then we testify against our self.

The saints will judge the world,which means they made it to heaven,so God will ask the people that did not make it,why they could not make it,and the world will have no excuse,that is why the Son is the Judge of the world,for the man Christ Jesus,made it to heaven,so no person has an excuse why they could not make it.

 

[Marcelo]

Matthew 7:1New International Version (NIV)

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.


Learning Christ's doctrine is not like learning math, physics or any other school subject. Once you grasp a physics concept, for example, you'll never forget it. I know intellectually that I should not judge others, but oftentimes I commit this sin, which means I do not really understand the IMPORTANCE OF NOT JUDGING OTHERS.

NOTE: My statement above is valid for the verb "to judge" (greek KRINETE) in the context of Matthew 7:1. The same English verb, "to judge" (greek DIAKRINETOSAN), in COR 14:29, for example, is a different thing.

 

[Karraster]

It is very important for all who believe Jesus Christ to keep always in mind that anyone who has broken even the least of the laws has broken all of the law.

Keep this thought in mind always, especially when tempted to say one person's sin is unforgiveable when we know there is only one sin that fits that bill.

Keep that thought in mind also when tempted to juadge anyone as being un pardonable, for we are all sinners, this means you also, therefore if you do not have mercy on your brethren, you willl not receive mercy for you will have judged yourself.

When we know another is sinning or has sinned, we, like our Master, shoulc always choose mercy over condemnation, and we will always bee seen with mercy.

It is ironic how so many here who are the first to scream grace are teh first to judge another for whatever sin he deems unforgiveable. Amazing, but they were areound at the time our Lord first came to save us.

Remember the teaching of Jesus: mercy, justice, and faith.......amen

A very good message, very loving. Good reminder to us all. We are told that one day the saints will judge even angels, but that time is not yet, as you state so eloquently.

5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth.7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[b] sin.

 

[JaumeJ]

Most folks who have a question about judging do not listen to and learn from Jesus Christ. When anyone judges another, he has judged himself, for our Lord says plainly with the judgment we mete ou (judge) so shall we be judged. It dos not get any clearer than that.

Praise Jesus Christ for the freedom of not judging others. Praise Him for the freedom from sin, amen.

It's fairly simple yet why do many just not understand? I see so many point the finger to others far before themselves those who claim the title Christian and show anything but Love. Now I cannot judge or condemn them and I can give loving correction and point out something they know we as Christians should not do but if I began to show a judging attitude and confuse correction with judging then that is when I have gone to far.

I think God knows who has the right heart Judge, I don't have any intention of pointing the finger to anyone but myself and i am not comfortable being in a position of authority but I do believe that if in fact we are called to judge as in having the hammer he would only choose those who have humble loving and patient hearts. personally the only one I judge is myself and honestly I think i do it a little to much

 

[JaumeJ]

Paul's teachings on judging are good, but the teachings of Jesus Christ are more to the point and cover every situation. Why settle for les? (I have said Paul's teachings are good, so please leave that one alone.)

Paul specifically says we do not judge those who are outside (the body). Do we not judge those who are inside (the body)? For those who are outside the body of Christ, God has already judged them. However, they do have the chance to accept Christ's sacrifice and resurrection for us, die to self, die to the world and its ways, repent of a life lived outside of Christ, and come out of that darkness into life.

We are never called to judge someone's salvation. We are called to judge within the body the doctrine, fruit, and beliefs of those who claim Christ as Lord and Savior. How else do we help a brother who is in sin, so they may be restored and return to the Lord?

It's not simply about judging for ourselves what is right. God already tells us what is right and thus we can know what is wrong. Our responsibility is to seek what is pleasing to God, and not to ourselves. When we find what is pleasing to God we walk in this and forsake that which is displeasing to Him.

When as according to Matthew 7, we remove the log from our eye, we will see more clearly how to help a brother remove the speck from theirs. We cannot address the sin in a brother if we are in the exact same sin ourselves. It causes our witnessing to that brother to be of no effect and have no power. This is about hypocrisy and is not about judging for another person what is right. God already has established what is right. However, what is considered right in God's eyes is not something that is personal. This is something that is for the entire body. I'm not speaking about personal issues or temptations in the life of a brother, but specifically what God says about things regarding what is truth in His eyes. While there may be many applications of that truth, the underlying truth does not change and has not changed throughout history.

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe by the content of the entire post you will be able to determine the answer to your interrogative is no.

If you need a refresher, the only sin that is possibly unpardonable is blaspheming the Hoy Spirit. Chr. 101

Not clear on what is being said here. Are you saying that lack of mercy to others is the unpardonable sin?

 

[JaumeJ]

If you would like to change the references it would behoove you to start your own post. As for Holy Scripture, including the Epistles, all are good for instruction and edification, but it must be with understanding.

I am certain there are not better instructions on judgement than the teachings of our Master(Teacher). So let us remain on the OP content. Christ is the Word, this He as a reference should be sufficient for any who claim t follow Him.

How do you see these instructions for judgement?
Are they to be applied to the body of the church today, or do they only apply to those members of the church of Corinth back then?

1 Corinthians 5:9-13
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[JaumeJ]

Obrigado my brother.........Praise Jesus Christ always. He is the Source of all understanding, true knowledge and wisdom, amen.

Matthew 7:1New International Version (NIV)

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.


Learning Christ's doctrine is not like learning math, physics or any other school subject. Once you grasp a physics concept, for example, you'll never forget it. I know intellectually that I should not judge others, but oftentimes I commit this sin, which means I do not really understand the IMPORTANCE OF NOT JUDGING OTHERS.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Hey Jaume, love you brother. Glad to see you are still here rightly dividing