Do you know for certain you are saved and will spend eternity with God

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Are you certain you have come to salvation in Christ and will spend eternity with God


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Miri

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#1
Hope this works, this will be the first poll ever created by me.
If it doesn't work I will delete it , so if you are seeing this then it must have worked. :)
That's unless I can't work out how to delete it.

An interesting point came up on another thread and I wondered how many on
CC have the assurance of salvation and eternal life which will be spent with God.

For those who are sure, what makes you sure.

For those who don't know, what would it take for you to be certain.

If you don't think it is possible to be certain then why not.

Hopefully we can all learn something and be an encouragement to each other.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I have a split personality on the matter.

I think that faith in Jesus = salvation, and I don't think God goes back on His promises.
... but then there's always that "What is a person looses faith?"
(And if someone says "they were never saved/ never believed to begin with" I will take my cyversword and run after you)
 
Feb 28, 2016
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ROMANS 2:7-8-9-10-11-12-13.
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned
in the law shall be judged by the law;
For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
 
Mar 15, 2016
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I think we have very different ideas about what 'saved' actually means.
 

trofimus

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Aug 17, 2015
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If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Romans 10:9

Its just a matter of trust in the Bible.
 
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PurerInHeart

Guest
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Hope this works, this will be the first poll ever created by me.
If it doesn't work I will delete it , so if you are seeing this then it must have worked. :)
That's unless I can't work out how to delete it.

An interesting point came up on another thread and I wondered how many on
CC have the assurance of salvation and eternal life which will be spent with God.

For those who are sure, what makes you sure.

For those who don't know, what would it take for you to be certain.

If you don't think it is possible to be certain then why not.

Hopefully we can all learn something and be an encouragement to each other.

The bible says these things are written that you may KNOW that you have eternal life. That and a trust God means what He says, and that He would not let His Son die a torturous death for nothing. It saves people, all I have to do is make sure I match the description the bible gives of those who will be saved.
 
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I have a split personality on the matter.

I think that faith in Jesus = salvation, and I don't think God goes back on His promises.
... but then there's always that "What is a person looses faith?"
(And if someone says "they were never saved/ never believed to begin with" I will take my cybersword and run after you)
I respectfully disagree you are either saved or you are not saved and you cannot lose your salvation because it is a gift from God to anyone who trusts in Jesus as their personal Savior and sovereign Lord. I believe that they were never saved and never believed to begin with. As my example the Parable of the Soils. Only one of the four soils was a follower of Christ the other ones might have made professions of faith but they really never trusted in the Lord as their personal Savior and sovereign Lord. Plus God saves people we do not and therefore we cannot maintain our salvation. You are allowed to disagree with me. Don't stab me, bro! :)
 

Blain

The Word Weaver
Aug 28, 2012
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i know I am saved and going to heaven only because the kind of relationship bond and love God and i share as for how others know if they are saved or not all I know is I have seen Christians who play church and show no fruits of the spirit and Christians who show these fruits even if it's only just growing from the seeds.

I think we all must consider the difference between a Christian by title and a Christian by heart
 

trofimus

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Aug 17, 2015
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I have a split personality on the matter.

I think that faith in Jesus = salvation, and I don't think God goes back on His promises.
... but then there's always that "What is a person looses faith?"
(And if someone says "they were never saved/ never believed to begin with" I will take my cyversword and run after you)
They were never saved.
 

BenFTW

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Oct 7, 2012
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Certain. Jesus, my High Priest. :)

Hebrews 7:25

25 Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them.
 

valiant

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Mar 22, 2015
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ROMANS 2:7-8-9-10-11-12-13.
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned
in the law shall be judged by the law;
For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
these verses are part of the evidence that ALL are condemned. They posit theoretical cases. Justification is by faith alone. (ch 3.24-27).

no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus (Rom 8.1)
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I respectfully disagree you are either saved or you are not saved and you cannot lose your salvation because it is a gift from God to anyone who trusts in Jesus as their personal Savior and sovereign Lord. I believe that they were never saved and never believed to begin with. As my example the Parable of the Soils. Only one of the four soils was a follower of Christ the other ones might have made professions of faith but they really never trusted in the Lord as their personal Savior and sovereign Lord. Plus God saves people we do not and therefore we cannot maintain our salvation. You are allowed to disagree with me. Don't stab me, bro! :)
Lo, ok I wont stab you :p
- Then why all the fuzz about faith growing cold? I mean... take the early Christians. They risked being killed, so surely the did believe (It's not like I'd go to IS- country and claim to be a Jew just to see what happened, right?) . They had faith. Yet they were warned against being lukewarm.

They were never saved.
*Calls my fellow vikings and gives chase*
 

trofimus

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Aug 17, 2015
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*Calls my fellow vikings and gives chase*
*Vikings stopped in Slavic countries as every invader in history*

Nobody can be saved without being actually saved, its logically inconsistent. So who is not saved was never saved.
 
Jan 27, 2013
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faith in a god through jesus. dose not depend on us.
it depends on a saviour.

by asking the question , only gives doubt to your belief.

for example.

14 so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes Ephesians 4 etc
 
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Miri

Guest
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Intersting comments. I can understand the doubts people have and
the worry they may drift away from God etc.

I use to think the same, but then I realised that people who are truely saved know
God and He knows them.

John 10:27-30 NKJV
[27] My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. [28] And I
give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch
them out of My hand. [29] My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than
all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand. [30] I and My Father are one."


I think for most people there are times in life when we are not as close to God as we should
be. All sorts of things get in the way, stress, death of loved ones, depression,
work problems, money problems, let down by other Christians, house problems etc the
list is endless.

In my experience and from what I have seen of others, we are gently wowed back to the fold
where the issue is difficult times. When there appears to be a disipleship issue we are corrected,
where people go off the rails backslide the Holy Spirit seems to follow them around
prodding and convicting at evey step along the way.

Even the luke warm church wasn't just abandoned, it was given a warning.

I've seen God pursue people and never let up until they come back to the foot of the cross.

I remember a testimony of one person an evangelist, who was on a long journey back
home and was tired when he saw a hitch hiker at the road side. He wasn't the sort of person
who would stop for a hitch hiker but this time, he felt compelled to do so.


They got talking and the evangelist explained he had just been at a church mission weekend and
was on his way home.

The hitch hiker was amazed and said he was the 4th person to give him a lift that day who was
a Christian. Then he told an amazing story of how he use to be a Christian but had turned his
back on God. But for the past few weeks every person he came across seemed to be a Christian
dead keen on telling him of God's love.

So the evangelist was able to take up the conversation where the others had left off and during
that trip , he led the hitch hiker on a journey of repentance and a sheep returning to the fold.

Isn't this just a wonderful picture of God rescuing one of His sheep come what may. Also
look at the story of the prodigal son, the father was more than willing to meet the son, He was
out looking for Him.

So yes while it is important not to play with God and put Him to the test by walking
away from God. God pursues us!

Did you know that?

Its astounding that the Good Shepherd will track down any lost sheep and find them.
We think we do the seeking and finding, but the truth is that it is God who lays
that trail of bread crumbs and stands. Seeking and finding is not like playing a
game of hide and seek, God is hidden in plain site with a big FIND ME arrow pointing
to Him.


It is possible for God's sheep to know Him and know they are secure in God's fold.:)
 

Grandpa

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Jun 24, 2011
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Faith is 100% sure of Salvation.

Thoughts and schemes of the enemy of our soul try to shake this faith to make it no faith.

Its a fight and some are battle weary. Its why encouragement is so important. To remind each other of the faith and hope they have.

Romans 8:35-39
[SUP]35 [/SUP]Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
[SUP]36 [/SUP]As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
[SUP]39 [/SUP]Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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Salvation is based on one thing only and that is belief that Jesus is God.

How can you stop believing Jesus is God? If you have doubts that Jesus is God then you really have not received Salvation yet.

Too many people put conditions on receiving Salvation. They teach there are hoops one must jump through to receive Salvation!

Also there are those who believe we can lose our Salvation. No where in the Scriptures does God say we can lose our Salvation.
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
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I'm the only one, thus far, that answered "don't know". Like the shepherd that goes off looking for that one lost sheep, I am certain that those parts (sheep) of me, are saved, but, still out searching for parts of me (lost sheep). I won't know for a certainty how many of the sheep (parts of me) are saved, until I'm standing in front of the Judge.
 

notuptome

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May 17, 2013
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Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Faith comes from hearing the word of God.

Grace is God's pity for us. We are saved by grace. Faith that brings us to salvation comes by hearing Gods word. We grow in grace by continuing in Gods word. Christians grow just like fish swim and birds fly.

When one feels weak in the faith they need only find strength in Gods word. Simple to say but it requires a lifetime of practice.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Depleted

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Hope this works, this will be the first poll ever created by me.
If it doesn't work I will delete it , so if you are seeing this then it must have worked. :)
That's unless I can't work out how to delete it.

An interesting point came up on another thread and I wondered how many on
CC have the assurance of salvation and eternal life which will be spent with God.

For those who are sure, what makes you sure.

For those who don't know, what would it take for you to be certain.

If you don't think it is possible to be certain then why not.

Hopefully we can all learn something and be an encouragement to each other.
Quite often when I write, I tend to meander but get where I'm going. It's a little frightening to see you looking like that. Have we been hanging around too much? Please tell me you're not getting my accent too.


You know my answer already. How do I know? I wanted to walk away, but God is so obvious I couldn't. Have you ever known a baby long enough to realize he stopped being a baby and turned into a child? You can't really pinpoint everything that happened to get him to that point, but it surprises you it happened anyway? That moment when I tried to walk away but couldn't was also the moment I realized I'm no longer a Babe in Christ. Still not mature enough, but no longer a Babe. This seedling has deep roots. God rooted me. Apparently, he's keeping me.