Doing a study on the gifts of Prophet/seer

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I am doing a study on the roles gifts and the attributes of a prophet and a seer, from what I gather the two are two sides of the same coin except they seem to have both similar and also different attributes and how God speaks to them. If I am correct the normal role of Prophet will hear his voice and will be used for God to speak through and it isn't uncommon for the prophet to have vision and even dreams from God. A seer appears to be a more rare form of a prophet as I have found little info about them in the bible from what I gather a seer sees things hence the name seer and can play the role of a normal prophet but has certain qualities that makes them unique in the prophetic ministry.

The words open heaven is what I heard someone say when I asked them about a seer I have no idea what that means of how it applies to a seer or why seers were a more rare type of prophet and I have many questions concerning them as well. I have been looking everywhere online for an in depth well written and scripture sound explanation of these things but have not had much luck and I found some books on the subject but it costs money and I have none right now.

I was wondering if anyone had info or understanding on this matter even a a small detail will be helpful
 
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Notice during your study, something our pastor said the other day:

Many think of prophets merely as people who can say "This thing will happen in x amount of time"
... but, while some of the prophets did that, most of their job was to guide the people to follow God's will now.
 
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wwjd_kilden said:
Notice during your study, something our pastor said the other day:

Many think of prophets merely as people who can say "This thing will happen in x amount of time"
... but, while some of the prophets did that, most of their job was to guide the people to follow God's will now.
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True I recall how prophets in the OT would give a word of rebuke to the ppl when they strayed far from God, a pattern I see with God is he always gives a warning before he does anything and often times he used them to do so
 
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Every prophet I know was Jewish...

What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
(Rom 3:1-2)

This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: (Act 7:38)


'oracles'-17417 λόγιον, ου, τό plural in the NT oracles, sayings, message, originating from God and received as direct revelation; used of laws (AC 7.38), promises (RO 3.2), inspired utterances (1P 4.11), salvation history (HE 5.12)
 
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I'm trying to remember, were the term "seer" and "prophet" the same thing? I remember in scripture I think there were those who were more like fortunetellers/mystics who called themselves seers. Or perhaps they were trying to use the same title as someone who actually heard from the Lord.
 
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Now before time in Israel every one in going to enquire of God said, Come and let us go to the seer; for the people beforetime called the prophet, the seer. 1 Samuel 9:9
 
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we say, be patient and listen and learn from what you have been given and then share
in the Love of Christ...if it is real, you will always be encouraged by the Holy Spirit...
fruit will bear witness...
 
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A seer is anyone who can tell the future...not necessarily a prophet from God. There was a demonically possessed woman who made her master lots of money from fortune telling.

There are also false prophets in the Bible who give people false security while they abuse and beat upon the poor and helpless, while they allow injustice to happen and side with the rich corrupt people instead of the widows and orphans.


However if you speak of Oracles of God, then we are all called to speak in such manner because the,prophets all spoke of salvation through Christ..that was what was entrusted to the Jewish people.

The spiritual gift of prophecy? Is to be able to pray and hear and see the vision God has for a specific group of people for a specific time and place.
 
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Any one who speaks the true word of God is a prophet, being a prophet does not necessitate telling of future events. However that can be a part of it and is a part of it. But mostly future events have already been prophesied except in a personal sense.
 
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ArtsieSteph said:
I'm trying to remember, were the term "seer" and "prophet" the same thing? I remember in scripture I think there were those who were more like fortunetellers/mystics who called themselves seers. Or perhaps they were trying to use the same title as someone who actually heard from the Lord.
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1 Samuel 9: 9.
 
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The problem is that if they gave a prophecy that was untrue they were to be stoned.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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i recall those scriptures saying how the prophets of old were called seers and also how the scriptures said how the people went to see the seer but aside from those I have not found hardly any other scriptures about the seer. if a seer is another word for prophet then why did they change it from seer to prophet and why is seer so rare to find even in the bible?
 
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Could be that the word was changed because of outside influences. Like how gay used to mean happy, or queer used to mean strange. Obviously they have a different connotation now.
 
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Blain said:
I am doing a study on the roles gifts and the attributes of a prophet and a seer, from what I gather the two are two sides of the same coin except they seem to have both similar and also different attributes and how God speaks to them. If I am correct the normal role of Prophet will hear his voice and will be used for God to speak through and it isn't uncommon for the prophet to have vision and even dreams from God. A seer appears to be a more rare form of a prophet as I have found little info about them in the bible from what I gather a seer sees things hence the name seer and can play the role of a normal prophet but has certain qualities that makes them unique in the prophetic ministry.

The words open heaven is what I heard someone say when I asked them about a seer I have no idea what that means of how it applies to a seer or why seers were a more rare type of prophet and I have many questions concerning them as well. I have been looking everywhere online for an in depth well written and scripture sound explanation of these things but have not had much luck and I found some books on the subject but it costs money and I have none right now.

I was wondering if anyone had info or understanding on this matter even a a small detail will be helpful
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your thoughts on prophets are correct. a seer would be seeing the event like watching live t.v. without a t.v. a non spiritual person might call it remote viewing. yes non spiritual/religious people can be prophets/seers/priest/choir.

how does your garden grow

duewell
mark 4 v 11-13
the rainbow connection
 
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Abraham was the first one called a prophet by God Gen 20:7
My best guess on the difference is that a prophet has the added meaning of official 'spokesman' (for a group?) as well as prophetic utterances whereas seer is mainly more 'unofficial'/ privatized. They are two different words in the Hebrew.
 
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duewell said:
your thoughts on prophets are correct. a seer would be seeing the event like watching live t.v. without a t.v. a non spiritual person might call it remote viewing. yes non spiritual/religious people can be prophets/seers/priest/choir.

how does your garden grow

duewell
mark 4 v 11-13
the rainbow connection
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I kind of felt like that is what a seer does differently but even so would that be called a vision? I mean watching an event or God speaking to a seer like they are watching t.v. sounds like a vision but then if so does a regular prophet not also receive these?
 
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I dunno, I mean was it Isaiah or Ezekiel that saw some crazy visions that didn't necessarily show stuff like a movie
 
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oh how we love the 'prophets', somehow we, speaking of the now, just seem to know
and trust them...

they are our 'heros', our 'future', our past, our gifts from our Father...
they are for us today, for they have shared and partaken of so many MIRACLES and PROPHECYS...
they chose to make the ultimate sacrifice for their FAITH and CALLING -
they died also for us...
 
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The first official office of a prophet was Samuel.
 
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