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pottersclay

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disciplemike said:
Did I say Adam?
I think I said Noah knew the difference between clean and unclean animals.
He knew how many unclean and clean animals to put on the ark, right?

what do you mean remain in the first Adam? is there a Scripture reference for that?
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Well I'm not sure..hhhmmmmmmm.. I think the whole bible is based on that. The second Adam Jesus Christ.
 
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pottersclay said:
Well I'm not sure..hhhmmmmmmm.. I think the whole bible is based on that. The second Adam Jesus Christ.
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oh okay. you were just being Genesis-to-Revelation all-encompassing theological?
that seems to be the case a lot here.
 
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pottersclay

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The first Adam sinned so God sent another, then men began to call on the name of the Lord His death shall bring comfort and peace to his people.
In case you didn't know thats the genealogy from Adam to Noah.....the meaning of the names.
 
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pottersclay said:
The first Adam sinned so God sent another, then men began to call on the name of the Lord His death shall bring comfort and peace to his people.
In case you didn't know thats the genealogy from Adam to Noah.....the meaning of the names.
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yes, excellent study on the meaning of the names.
we do agree on some things I guess.
 
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heavenly_bound

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pottersclay said:
Well I'm not sure..hhhmmmmmmm.. I think the whole bible is based on that. The second Adam Jesus Christ.
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I think i can help with some scriptures here " ...and so it is written, the first man Adam was a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeeit that was not first which is spiritual but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual; The first man is of the earth, earthly ; the second man is the Lord from Heaven(1 Cor 15:45-47) Now to further understand these two Adams, pls study their comparison made by Paul in Roman 5:12-21 . Bless
 
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heavenly_bound

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pottersclay said:
Well I'm not sure..hhhmmmmmmm.. I think the whole bible is based on that. The second Adam Jesus Christ.
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pottersclay said:
The first Adam sinned so God sent another, then men began to call on the name of the Lord His death shall bring comfort and peace to his people.
In case you didn't know that the genealogy from Adam to Noah.....the meaning of the names.
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no no no! the second Adam(Christ) is not God's plan B. God had no plan B! God in His omniscience, knew the first Adam would not make it! In fact the fall of the first Adam was in God's plan! ..."But Creation was not made subject to vanity not willingly but by reason of Him who hath subjected the same in hope..(Rom 8 :20) you can also study (Roman 5:12-21) these two passages are well expounded in the AMP version.
 
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pottersclay

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heavenly_bound said:
no no no! the second Adam(Christ) is not God's plan B. God had no plan B! God in His omniscience, knew the first Adam would not make it! In fact the fall of the first Adam was in God's plan! ..."But Creation was not made subject to vanity not willingly but by reason of Him who hath subjected the same in hope..(Rom 8 :20) you can also study (Roman 5:12-21) these two passages are well expounded in the AMP version.
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Thank you and I will study this..as it is a on going question here at cc. I really wasn't to suggest a plan b nor do I believe a Plan b existed but to use the words of eve when Seth was born. But where's you have pointed out needs my focus as well...thanks again.
 
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RBA238

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pottersclay said:
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Thank you and I will study this..as it is a on going question here at cc. I really wasn't to suggest a plan b nor do I believe a Plan b existed but to use the words of eve when Seth was born. But where's you have pointed out needs my focus as well...thanks again.
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Exactly right.."God had no plan "B"..
God knows the end from the beginning, no doubt. It is a study of God teaching all of us what happens to Weak Flesh if His Spirit does not control and guide us through his precious word. There was no earhly law when Adam was created...The First Laws began when God gave them to Moses. (The Second Dispensation )
We now live in the 3rd and final dispensation notlike the OT dispensation. Those who choose God, get properly converted and follow his word , are covered in his blood symbolically and be saved. This is The last Dispensation for mankind...
 
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pottersclay

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Mike time does not allow me to respond to you as I have intended. I will return as it's time for me to put bread on the table...in others words...gotta work right now see ya latter.
 
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LaurenTM

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#110
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disciplemike said:
I know I will get jumped (again) for bringing this up, but names are important.
just keep in mind, up until about 1600ad, the Messiah was never called "jesus".
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I can see you at the greeting line at heavens' doors now, checking everyone's credentials

hope Paul gets in
 
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pottersclay

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LaurenTM said:
I can see you at the greeting line at heavens' doors now, checking everyone's credentials

hope Paul gets in
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I think my name translate to Jacob...now that's going to be interesting.:D
 
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LaurenTM

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pottersclay said:
I think my name translate to Jacob...now that's going to be interesting.:D
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well, my name is in the Bible...with good references, but it is a Greek name...I'm not

but if you just say that it's 'grouchy', I should be good to go, right? :eek:
 
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heavenly_bound

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pottersclay said:
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Thank you and I will study this..as it is a on going question here at cc. I really wasn't to suggest a plan b nor do I believe a Plan b existed but to use the words of eve when Seth was born. But where's you have pointed out needs my focus as well...thanks again.
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you are welcome bro
 
disciplemike

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Ahwatukee said:
Yes disciplemike you are correct, the Messiah was Jewish and his name in the Hebrew is Yeshua Hamashiach, and the Greek transliteration is ieous Christos and in English the transliteration is Jesus Christ. All three names are referring to the One who left heaven and kinned himself to us in the flesh, lived a life without sin and paid the penalty for sin, was buried, resurrected and ascended to the right hand of the Father. What is your problem? Why are you so legalistic about everything?
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you may be right. I still like the name Yeshua.
to each his own I guess.
 
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LaurenTM said:
I can see you at the greeting line at heavens' doors now, checking everyone's credentials

hope Paul gets in
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not sure about Paul, but I think Sha-ul will be fine.
I will roll out the red carpet for you also, ma'am.
 
SarahFaith

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disciplemike said:
post all the twist and tricks you like.
His name is not "jesus".
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(Luke 2:2)
And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
 
SarahFaith

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BenFTW said:
If you consider all the Christians in the world of different races and languages, why is it that the name of Jesus in its many different forms still works to heal the sick, cast out demons, make the blind see, deaf hear, and so on? The name sounds completely different in each of the different languages but still the same authority is present. If the name Jesus was improper why does the Lord still honor prayers in that name?
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(Acts 4:30)
By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
 
SarahFaith

SarahFaith

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Ariel82 said:
Hebrew roots movement....God knows His children and their hearts, no matter what name or how they pronounce his name. The Messiah died on the cross for our sins. That is the important thing, but some people want to enslave people to the old Covenant laws and like making up other man-made rules to be used to condemn God's children.
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(Mark 7:13)
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
 
SarahFaith

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disciplemike said:
Trusting in the Messiah for salvation is correct.

Thinking the commandments of the King are abolished is incorrect.
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(Rom 16:26)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
 
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